LeBrok
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ANE (Ancient North Eurasians) occupied area of Northern Eurasia for thousands of years. Genome of Mal’ta boy, who inhabited Siberia 24 years ago, was designated as ANE standard. By the topography of the land and virtue of their hunter-gatherer character ANE were very nomadic people. They always had to move around fallowing migratory animals like reindeer, mammoths or horses. I’m sure when they did this for long thousands of years they developed a genetic mutation helping them to feel fun and pleasure when roaming around.
Well, most likely mutation happened to sedentary people of North, but when it happened it gave advantage to ones loving traveling longer distances, and finding more food, which in form of migratory animals tends to move a lot. Same way as mutation for digesting starches had happened before development of agriculture, or lactose persistent before dairy industry. The beneficial mutations to help people make the best of existing environment.
Just keep in mind that it is always accompanied by feeling of pleasure. Mutation of eating starches came with feeling of joy of eating starches, also milk is tasty, so there is no reason to doubt that traveling can’t give us pleasure too, if it is a beneficial mutation. I’m sure many of us love traveling, seeing new things, and going for long walks in forests or mountain tracks, even though it is exhausting and tiring, with no bigger purpose but just to have a look around and be active. Some sort of undescribed pleasure and satisfaction, but it is a real feeling.
Anyway ANE became nomadic masters with love of traveling. From ancient history we have learned that ANE traveled far and wide. They went east to America as hunter gatherers and became American Natives. They went west to Scandinavia as hunter-gatherers too. Recently it has turned that ANE Mal’ta boy had Y haplogroupe R*, possibly ancestor or at least a cousin to R1a and R1b people. It is easy to assume and be almost certain that R1a people had overwhelming ANE admixture.
Once R1 tribes became herders and successful farmers in Bronze Age, had built up their numbers, and became what we know as Indo-Europeans, they moved once again in all directions. Why? Because they loved moving around and traveling, they have the joy of roaming gene. They went to Tibet, South to India and Middle East as Indo-Iranians. Some even ventured into Africa. They also went west to Europe again, some as Corded Ware culture, others as Celtic tribes. This time they settled all over Europe giving it IE language.
Keep in mind that there were always more populous nations than nomads from North. Farmers from China or India had vast advantage in numbers and could conquer the whole world, but they never did. I guess, they must have loved to be always at home, and being away they were home sick. Same thing in Europe, neither its Hunter-Gatherers or Neolithic Farmers ventured outside Europe to conquered the world, or at least roam around a bit for fun.
Well, after Bronze Age invasion of nomadic travelers of ANE kind (R1a and R1B peoples), Europe wasn’t the same anymore. Greeks ventured into Asia with Alexander. Romans spread around half of known world, then Germanics and Slavs had to travel a bit too, followed by another wave of ANE people of Central Asia, like Huns, Tatars, Mongols and Turks. We shouldn’t even mention how rich in ANE Vikings have loved to travel places, faraway places.
I’m not sure how relevant all the English, Spanish, Dutch empires are in terms of traveling or Russian expansion east, but they are all ANE people. And I bet ANE is the most widespread admixture around the planet.
Before the ANE expansion, all civilizations or so called empires where like sizable countries. ANE people showed the world how real empire should look like.
All for the love of traveling and roaming.
PS. Arabs don’t have ANE, but being nomads, therefore having a roaming gene, they had one of biggest empires too.
Can anyone find traveling statistics per country per capita?
Well, most likely mutation happened to sedentary people of North, but when it happened it gave advantage to ones loving traveling longer distances, and finding more food, which in form of migratory animals tends to move a lot. Same way as mutation for digesting starches had happened before development of agriculture, or lactose persistent before dairy industry. The beneficial mutations to help people make the best of existing environment.
Just keep in mind that it is always accompanied by feeling of pleasure. Mutation of eating starches came with feeling of joy of eating starches, also milk is tasty, so there is no reason to doubt that traveling can’t give us pleasure too, if it is a beneficial mutation. I’m sure many of us love traveling, seeing new things, and going for long walks in forests or mountain tracks, even though it is exhausting and tiring, with no bigger purpose but just to have a look around and be active. Some sort of undescribed pleasure and satisfaction, but it is a real feeling.
Anyway ANE became nomadic masters with love of traveling. From ancient history we have learned that ANE traveled far and wide. They went east to America as hunter gatherers and became American Natives. They went west to Scandinavia as hunter-gatherers too. Recently it has turned that ANE Mal’ta boy had Y haplogroupe R*, possibly ancestor or at least a cousin to R1a and R1b people. It is easy to assume and be almost certain that R1a people had overwhelming ANE admixture.
Once R1 tribes became herders and successful farmers in Bronze Age, had built up their numbers, and became what we know as Indo-Europeans, they moved once again in all directions. Why? Because they loved moving around and traveling, they have the joy of roaming gene. They went to Tibet, South to India and Middle East as Indo-Iranians. Some even ventured into Africa. They also went west to Europe again, some as Corded Ware culture, others as Celtic tribes. This time they settled all over Europe giving it IE language.
Keep in mind that there were always more populous nations than nomads from North. Farmers from China or India had vast advantage in numbers and could conquer the whole world, but they never did. I guess, they must have loved to be always at home, and being away they were home sick. Same thing in Europe, neither its Hunter-Gatherers or Neolithic Farmers ventured outside Europe to conquered the world, or at least roam around a bit for fun.
Well, after Bronze Age invasion of nomadic travelers of ANE kind (R1a and R1B peoples), Europe wasn’t the same anymore. Greeks ventured into Asia with Alexander. Romans spread around half of known world, then Germanics and Slavs had to travel a bit too, followed by another wave of ANE people of Central Asia, like Huns, Tatars, Mongols and Turks. We shouldn’t even mention how rich in ANE Vikings have loved to travel places, faraway places.
I’m not sure how relevant all the English, Spanish, Dutch empires are in terms of traveling or Russian expansion east, but they are all ANE people. And I bet ANE is the most widespread admixture around the planet.
Before the ANE expansion, all civilizations or so called empires where like sizable countries. ANE people showed the world how real empire should look like.
All for the love of traveling and roaming.
PS. Arabs don’t have ANE, but being nomads, therefore having a roaming gene, they had one of biggest empires too.
Can anyone find traveling statistics per country per capita?