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Goga

Goga

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I'm a full blooded (Ezdi) Kurd and as far as I know all my ancestors for more than 10 generation are pure ethnic Ezdi Kurds. Here are my results of MDLP Ancient Roots K18 on GEDmatch (3/9/2014). After the West Iranic people, the Central Asian ('Iranised') Jews (+ of course Jewish Kurds) are the closest to me :

Population
South_Central_Asian
Caucasian

[TD="align: center"] #
[/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent
[/TD]

[TD="align: center"] 1
[/TD]

[TD="align: right"] 24.86
[/TD]

[TD="align: center"] 2
[/TD]

[TD="align: right"] 24.82
[/TD]

[TD="align: center"] 3
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Mediterranean
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 22.19
[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 4
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Afroasiatic
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 11.47
[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 5
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] North_West_European
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 3.35
[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 6
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] South_Indian
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 2.8
[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 7
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Volga-Uralic
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 2.75
[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 8
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] East_European
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 2.19
[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 9
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] West_Siberian
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 1.85
[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 10
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Amerindian
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 1.11
[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 11
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Roma
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 1.09
[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 12
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] East_Siberian
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 0.83
[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 13
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] East_African
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 0.34
[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 14
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Archaic_African
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 0.24
[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 15
[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Melano-Austronesian
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 0.13
[/TD]


Single Population Sharing:
Population (source)
Kurds
Kurd

[TD="align: center"] #
[/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Distance
[/TD]

[TD="align: center"] 1
[/TD]

[TD="align: right"] 4.28
[/TD]

[TD="align: center"] 2
[/TD]

[TD="align: right"] 4.4
[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 3
[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Iranians
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 5.41
[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 4
[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Azeri
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 6.76
[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 5
[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Uzbekistan_Jew
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 8.29
[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 6
[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Kurd_Jew
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 10.86
[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 7
[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Uzbekistani_Jews
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 11.39
[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 8
[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Iran_Jew
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 12.05
[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 9
[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Jew_Tat
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 12.23
[/TD]

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[TD="width: 220"][/TD]
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Goga said:
I'm a full blooded (Ezdi) Kurd and as far as I know all my ancestors for more than 10 generation are pure ethnic Ezdi Kurds. Here are my results of MDLP Ancient Roots K18 on GEDmatch (3/9/2014). After the West Iranic people, the Central Asian ('Iranised') Jews (+ of course Jewish Kurds) are the closest to me :

Population
South_Central_Asian
Caucasian
Mediterranean

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]

[TD="align: center"] 1 [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] 24.86 [/TD]

[TD="align: center"] 2 [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] 24.82 [/TD]

[TD="align: center"] 3 [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] 22.19 [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 4 [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Afroasiatic [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 11.47 [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 5 [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] North_West_European [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 3.35 [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 6 [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] South_Indian [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 2.8 [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 7 [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Volga-Uralic [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 2.75 [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 8 [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] East_European [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 2.19 [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 9 [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] West_Siberian [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 1.85 [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 10 [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Amerindian [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 1.11 [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 11 [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Roma [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 1.09 [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 12 [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] East_Siberian [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 0.83 [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 13 [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] East_African [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 0.34 [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 14 [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Archaic_African [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 0.24 [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"] 15 [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] Melano-Austronesian [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 0.13 [/TD]


Single Population Sharing:
Population (source)
Kurds
Kurd
Iranians

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Distance [/TD]

[TD="align: center"] 1 [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] 4.28 [/TD]

[TD="align: center"] 2 [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] 4.4 [/TD]

[TD="align: center"] 3 [/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 5.41 [/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 4 [/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Azeri [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 6.76 [/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 5 [/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Uzbekistan_Jew [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 8.29 [/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 6 [/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Kurd_Jew [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 10.86 [/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 7 [/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Uzbekistani_Jews [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 11.39 [/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 8 [/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Iran_Jew [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 12.05 [/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"] 9 [/TD]
[TD="width: 220"] Jew_Tat [/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"] 12.23 [/TD]

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K18 was superseded by Vadim the creator of K18.....new one is K17 in Gedmatch

mine and my wifes results below


Mine
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Ancestral_East_European_ANE 33.45
2 Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF 31.22
3 West_European_HG 19.88
4 Caucasian-Basal 12.13
5 Ancestral_South_Indian 1.65
6 Uralic 0.74
7 Melano-Austronesian 0.41
8 African_Sub_Saharian 0.4
9 Ancestral_North_Indian 0.12

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.7% Toscani + 30.3% German @ 2.95
2 68.7% Toscani + 31.3% Czech @ 2.99
3 62.8% Toscani + 37.2% Hungarian @ 3.14
4 71.8% Toscani + 28.2% Mixed_CEU @ 3.15


............................................


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Ancestral_East_European_ANE 35.34
2 Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF 28.55
3 West_European_HG 21.27
4 Caucasian-Basal 9.95
5 Ancestral_North_Indian 1.46
6 Uralic 1.17
7 Circumpolar 0.62
8 South_East_Asian 0.46
9 Melano-Austronesian 0.45
10 Ancestral_South_Indian 0.3
11 African_Sub_Saharian 0.15
12 Ancestral_Sami-Finnic 0.12
13 Archaic_African 0.07
14 Near-East-Basal 0.07
15 Ancestral_West_Siberian 0.01



# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63% Kosovar + 37% Cornish @ 1.94
2 60.8% Kosovar + 39.2% Welsh @ 1.99
3 68.7% Kosovar + 31.3% Norwegian @ 2.29
4 67.2% Kosovar + 32.8% Orcadian @ 2.29

unsure what Kosovar represents in this admixture

another confusing breakup for her if comparing with above
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Austrian +50% Toscani @ 2.658846
 
Interesting experiment, but that's all. And since when is 'Ancestral_East_European' ANE? And since when do (South) West Europeans do have that much 'Ancestral_East_European' in them?. I'm sure he put multiple components with very different origins together and called it 'Ancestral_East_European' = ANE?! And where is Gedrosia? I guess he split Gedrosia into many different components and created another one called Ancestral_North_Indian? Why did he divided some components while bringing other components together?


Also, don’t understand what Turkish_Kayseri means? All I know is that Kayseri is in Central Anatolia. But I'm from Zagros. That I'm closer to 'Anatolians & Parsi' or 'Armenian & Balochi' than to Kurds (like 'Kurd & Tadjik' or 'Kurd & Kalash'), also the gap between me and other Kurds (still 1st) is HUGE (9.41), Turkish_Kayseri (Central Anatolian) is on the 9th place with 18.77 distance, while it's at the 1st place at 'Mixed Mode Population Sharing', very strange and all these things don't make any sense at all…


Nerveless my results:


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MDLP K23b Oracle

Population

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Caucasian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]36.92[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]South_Central_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]27.97[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Near_East[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]11.95[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]European_Early_Farmers[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]8.05[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]South_Indian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.44[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]European_Hunters_Gatherers[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.04[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]North_African[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.26[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Ancestral_Altaic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.99[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Amerindian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.39[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]East_African[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.97[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Paleo_Siberian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.75[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Tungus-Altaic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.73[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Austronesian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.26[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Archaic_African[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.2[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]East_Siberian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.1[/TD]
 
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# [TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"] Primary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"] Secondary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] Distance [/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]81.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Georgian_Jew ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]18.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kalash ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.08[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]77.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Jew_Tat ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]22.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kalash ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.32[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]80%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Georgian_Jew ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]20%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Brahui ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.46[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]94.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]5.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Basque_French ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.54[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]94.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]5.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Basque_Spanish ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.57[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]78.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Georgian_Jew ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]21.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Balochi ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.59[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]93.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]6.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.61[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]95.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]4.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] 1_Skoglund_farmer ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.63[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]71.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Iranian ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]28.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Turk_Kayseri ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.75[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]93%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] French_South ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.77[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]90.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]9.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.79[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]90.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]9.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Orcadian ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.81[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]81.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Iranian ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]18.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Smyrna ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.81[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]95.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]4.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] 1_Gokhem7 ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.82[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]90.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]9.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] British ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.83[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]91.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]8.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Colombian ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.85[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]91.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]8.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Puerto_Rican ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.87[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]90.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]9.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Icelandic ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.9[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]92.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.9[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]20[/TD]
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[TD="width: 30, align: right"]92.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.91[/TD]
 
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[TD="colspan: 3"] Primary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"] Secondary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] Distance [/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]81.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Georgian_Jew ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]18.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kalash ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.08[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]77.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Jew_Tat ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]22.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kalash ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.32[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]80%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Georgian_Jew ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]20%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Brahui ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.46[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]94.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]5.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Basque_French ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.54[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]94.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]5.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Basque_Spanish ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.57[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]78.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Georgian_Jew ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]21.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Balochi ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.59[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]93.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]6.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.61[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]95.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]4.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] 1_Skoglund_farmer ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.63[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]71.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Iranian ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]28.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Turk_Kayseri ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.75[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]93%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] French_South ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.77[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]90.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]9.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.79[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]90.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]9.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Orcadian ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.81[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]81.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Iranian ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]18.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Smyrna ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.81[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]95.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]4.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] 1_Gokhem7 ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.82[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]90.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]9.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] British ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.83[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]91.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]8.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Colombian ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.85[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]91.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]8.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Puerto_Rican ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.87[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]90.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]9.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Icelandic ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.9[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]92.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.9[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]92.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurd ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( )[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.91
[/TD]
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you do realise that the 2, 3 and 4 populations presented are meant for you to choose which is your best fit ......being a kurd, you can choose #14 as your best fit based on your known ancestry. It has always worked like this
 
mine below

MDLP K23b Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Early_Farmers 29.03
2 Caucasian 27.88
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 25.56
4 South_Central_Asian 5.03
5 Near_East 4.22
6 North_African 4.16
7 Ancestral_Altaic 3.18
8 Melano_Polynesian 0.75
9 South_Indian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_German ( ) 8.16
2 Italian_Piedmont ( ) 9.49
3 Italian_Bergamo ( ) 9.89
4 Austrian ( ) 9.98
5 Italian_Tuscan ( ) 10.27
6 Belgian ( ) 11.29
7 Dutch ( ) 12.02
8 North_German ( ) 12.38
9 Hungarian ( ) 12.9


these pop mix...fits my tests with McDonald, interpretome, 23andme, Alpgen and yhrd
 
Sile said:
you do realise that the 2, 3 and 4 populations presented are meant for you to choose which is your best fit ......being a kurd, you can choose #14 as your best fit based on your known ancestry. It has always worked like this
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Didn't know that, thanks! But are you sure about what you're telling me? Because I'm not 95.7% Kurd, but 100% Kurd Ezdi. The Yezidism is an anicent Aryan Kurdish religion. What mean that I don't have any 'Islamic' (no Turkish, no Arabic = no Muslim DNA etc.), nor 'Christian' or 'Jewish' genes in me. However the distance of the first option is closest to me, 3.08. The first option is telling me that I'm 81.9% Georgian Jew and 18.1 Kalash. While I do understand why there is some match between me and Kalash, due to our proto-Iranian connection. Notice that I've a lot South_Central_Asian/Gedrosia auDNA in me, even more than Persians. That means that Persians are much more mixed with non-Iranian than me. I'm sure that proto-Iranic people had a lot South_Central_Asian auDNA component in them, even MORE than I do. Kurds are West Iranic people and Kalash are Indo-Aryan people, but why Georgian_Jew? I've no Georgian roots, nor I do have Jewish roots..
 
But my auDNA makes clear to me that proto-Iranians (Mitanni) and their children the Medes & Persian were mostly Caucasian - South_Central_Asian folks. I have 36.92% of Caucasian auDNA and 27.97% of South_Central_Asian auDNA in me. Maybe some umixed 'Eastern' Kurds (closer to the South Central Asia) have more South_Central_Asian auDNA in them than I do. I guess that the proto-Iranian (the Mitanni etc.) or early West Iranians (the Medes) were most likely 33.33% (1/3) Caucasian and 33.33% (1/3) South_Central_Asian...
 
Here's my updated MDLP K23b as of the 16th of September:

Ethnicity: Ashkenazi Jewish

MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.34
2 European_Early_Farmers 22.63
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 13.20
4 Near_East 10.51
5 North_African 6.86
6 South_Central_Asian 6.36


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.929181
2 Sicilian_East @ 3.546232
3 Sicilian_West @ 3.845939
4 Sicilian_Siracusa @ 3.939226
5 Ashkenazi @ 4.350750
6 Sicilian_Trapani @ 5.250281
7 Sicilian_Agrigento @ 5.379285
8 Romanian_Jew @ 5.465404
9 Maltese @ 6.141469
10 Cretan @ 6.226387
11 Italian_South @ 6.639791
12 Sicilian_Center @ 6.905343
13 French_Jew @ 6.983124
14 Greek_Athens @ 7.279214
15 Greek @ 7.755960
16 Central_Greek @ 8.582447
17 Greek_Phokaia @ 8.734240
18 Greek_Peloponnesos @ 8.993840
19 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.110687
20 Greek_Smyrna @ 9.649567

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaloniki +50% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.126260


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Jew +25% Gagauz +25% Sicilian_West @ 1.580894


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarian + Greek_Smyrna + Moroccan_Jew + Sicilian_Trapani @ 1.525548
2 Bulgarian + Greek_Smyrna + Moroccan_Jew + Sicilian_Agrigento @ 1.550738
3 French_Jew + French_Jew + Gagauz + Sicilian_West @ 1.580894
4 French_Jew + Greek_Smyrna + Montenegrian + Moroccan_Jew @ 1.606388
5 Bulgarian + French_Jew + Sephardic_Jew + Sicilian_East @ 1.619343
6 Kosovar + Kosovar + Moroccan_Jew + Syrian_Jew @ 1.620502
7 Bulgarian + Greek_Smyrna + Maltese + Moroccan_Jew @ 1.645095
8 Bulgarian + Greek_Smyrna + Moroccan_Jew + Sicilian_West @ 1.648538
9 Bulgarian + Greek_Smyrna + Moroccan_Jew + Sicilian_East @ 1.667099
10 Bulgarian + Greek_Smyrna + Libyan_Jew + Sicilian_West @ 1.681815
11 French_Jew + Gagauz + Sephardic_Jew + Sicilian_West @ 1.692104
12 Bulgarian + Greek_Smyrna + Maltese + Sephardic_Jew @ 1.719078
13 Greek_Smyrna + Macedonian + Moroccan_Jew + Sicilian_Agrigento @ 1.749767
14 Bulgarian + Greek_Smyrna + Libyan_Jew + Sicilian_Trapani @ 1.789046
15 French_Jew + Greek_Smyrna + Moroccan_Jew + Serb_Serbia @ 1.797865
16 Cretan + Kosovar + Moroccan_Jew + Sicilian_West @ 1.803889
17 Greek + Sicilian_East + Sicilian_West + Sicilian_West @ 1.804704
18 Bulgarian + French_Jew + French_Jew + French_Jew @ 1.805862
19 French_Jew + French_Jew + Gagauz + Sicilian_Agrigento @ 1.820195
20 Italian_North + Italian_South + Sicilian_East + Syrian_Jew @ 1.824458

I find the 50% Thessaloniki Greek 50% Sephardi Jewish interesting, considering the IBD sharing between AJs with Greeks and SJs.
 
To me, those "components" seem off. Ashkenazim are only 22% EEF? In Lazaridis et al they're almost totally EEF. Also, this calculator, like the others, continues to confuse Ashkenazim and Sicilians.

I did finally run it, and it definitely says I'm Italian, but I'm so typically Italian and so typical of my specific "place" that even the old DNATribes STR analysis that gave so many people such bizarre results pinpointed my exact origin, so it's not difficult to do in my case.
 
Angela said:
To me, those "components" seem off. Ashkenazim are only 22% EEF? In Lazaridis et al they're almost totally EEF. Also, this calculator, like the others, continues to confuse Ashkenazim and Sicilians.

I did finally run it, and it definitely says I'm Italian, but I'm so typically Italian and so typical of my specific "place" that even the old DNATribes STR analysis that gave so many people such bizarre results pinpointed my exact origin, so it's not difficult to do in my case.
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Of course AJs aren't only 22% EEF, more likely 93% I think, just like Sicilians and Maltese, with 0 WHG ancestry, and about 7% ANE. But here they broke it into several branches, also, I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about the 50% Thessaloniki Greek 50% SJ which isn't impossible, considering the IBD sharing and gene flow from and to both Greeks and SJs, as for Sicilians showing up first right after AJs, well that's because Sicilians are also a sort of mix of Greek and near eastern/north African, although I'm pretty sure Cretans and Aegean islanders have a more similar genetic background to AJs than Sicilians or Maltese do.


However, I would agree that this whole thing is quite bloody confusing... On one hand you have a study which says 0% WHG, gap between Europe and the near east, with southeast European admixture being the only possible European admixture due to low WHG percentage, on the other hand, a study which says AJs are about 50% European 50% near eastern, with the admixture happening about 600 to 800 years ago when AJs were in the WHG rich central part of the European continent, this whole fight that is poisoned by politics and ideology is making many AJs (including myself) bloody confused, yesterday we were a Turkic group, today an east Mediterranean group, wonder what we'll be tomorrow! :-P
 
You'll be an AJ, and I'll be Italian, the product, like everybody else, of complex demographic processes that we don't yet completely understand, if we ever do.

I find it all intellectually interesting, but at the end of the day, for me, the important thing is the end result. :)
 
Angela said:
You'll be an AJ, and I'll be Italian, the product, like everybody else, of complex demographic processes that we don't yet completely understand, if we ever do.

I find it all intellectually interesting, but at the end of the day, for me, the important thing is the end result. :)
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I suppose that's the safest conclusion to assume ATM. I do hope that one day technology will be good enough to give us all an undeniable final result, that will not be contradicted by another study the following year, unfortunately, this time has not come yet.
 
John Doe said:
Of course AJs aren't only 22% EEF, more likely 93% I think, just like Sicilians and Maltese, with 0 WHG ancestry, and about 7% ANE. But here they broke it into several branches, also, I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about the 50% Thessaloniki Greek 50% SJ which isn't impossible, considering the IBD sharing and gene flow from and to both Greeks and SJs, as for Sicilians showing up first right after AJs, well that's because Sicilians are also a sort of mix of Greek and near eastern/north African, although I'm pretty sure Cretans and Aegean islanders have a more similar genetic background to AJs than Sicilians or Maltese do.


However, I would agree that this whole thing is quite bloody confusing... On one hand you have a study which says 0% WHG, gap between Europe and the near east, with southeast European admixture being the only possible European admixture due to low WHG percentage, on the other hand, a study which says AJs are about 50% European 50% near eastern, with the admixture happening about 600 to 800 years ago when AJs were in the WHG rich central part of the European continent, this whole fight that is poisoned by politics and ideology is making many AJs (including myself) bloody confused, yesterday we were a Turkic group, today an east Mediterranean group, wonder what we'll be tomorrow! :-P
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those data reports are not to be entwined with each other.
top report stands alone.
and next reports is your make up generally, it has nothing to do with the top report. other people have 22,63 EEF and are zero ashkenazi
4 pop report...you choose which best suits you

You do realise that EEF ( and others ) are centuries upon centuries upon centuries older than the 4000 year old jewish marker of ashkenazi , right!
 

MDLP K23b(revised)

Admix Results (sorted):

Population
North_African

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]

[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]25.93[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Near_East[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]22.72[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Caucasian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]17.26[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]European_Early_Farmers[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]14.75[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Subsaharian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]8.00[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]East_African[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.65[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Archaic_African[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.47[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]European_Hunters_Gatherers[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.93
[/TD]

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tunisian @ 12.412248
2 Egyptian_Tanta @ 16.997145
3 Shaigi_Sudan @ 17.136944
4 Moroccan @ 17.880611
5 Algerian @ 18.442717
6 Egyptian_Iskandaria @ 18.615828
7 Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh @ 19.295046
8 Egyptian_Kuwait @ 19.365215
9 Egyptian_Mansoura @ 19.379889
10 Egyptian_Kairo @ 19.668936
11 Egyptian_Cairo @ 20.972237
12 Libyan_Jew @ 23.995220
13 BedouinA @ 24.191256
14 Tunisian_Jew @ 25.125029
15 Jordanian @ 25.671579
16 Yemen @ 26.269083
17 Morocco_South @ 26.487663
18 Moroccan_Jew @ 26.520597
19 Palestinian @ 28.098766
20 Muslim_Arabs_Israel @ 29.390078

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian +50% Egyptian_Cairo @ 5.704517


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian +25% Egyptian_Iskandaria +25% Saudi @ 4.981230


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Moroccan + Morocco_South + Puerto_Rican + Yemenite_Jew @ 4.951792
2 Algerian + Algerian + Egyptian_Iskandaria + Saudi @ 4.981230
3 Egyptian_Iskandaria + Morocco_South + Saudi + Shaigi_Sudan @ 5.048324
4 Algerian + Egyptian_Iskandaria + Morocco_South + Saudi @ 5.073341
5 Algerian + Egyptian_Iskandaria + Saudi + Shaigi_Sudan @ 5.132286
6 Algerian + Moroccan + Puerto_Rican + Yemenite_Jew @ 5.223339
7 Algerian + Algerian + Egyptian_Tanta + Yemen @ 5.270368
8 Algerian + Libyan_Jew + Morocco_South + Saudi @ 5.320713
9 Moroccan + Puerto_Rican + Shaigi_Sudan + Yemenite_Jew @ 5.352680
10 Algerian + Maltese + Morocco_South + Qatari @ 5.356130
11 Algerian + Moroccan_Jew + Morocco_South + Saudi @ 5.360307
12 Algerian + Egyptian_Iskandaria + Morocco_South + Yemenite_Jew @ 5.367686
13 Egyptian_Iskandaria + Mozabite + Qatari + Spanish_Murcia_IBS @ 5.390248
14 Morocco_South + Morocco_South + Qatari + Sicilian_Center @ 5.412871
15 Moroccan + Puerto_Rican + Tunisian + Yemenite_Jew @ 5.440884
16 Egyptian_Iskandaria + Saudi + Shaigi_Sudan + Shaigi_Sudan @ 5.457525
17 Puerto_Rican + Saharawi + Tunisian + Yemenite_Jew @ 5.463625
18 Morocco_South + Morocco_South + Qatari + Sicilian_Agrigento @ 5.481117
19 Algerian + Algerian + Egyptian_Iskandaria + Yemenite_Jew @ 5.482661
20 Algerian + Moroccan_Jew + Morocco_South + Qatari @ 5.496430

Done.
 
Sile said:
those data reports are not to be entwined with each other.
top report stands alone.
and next reports is your make up generally, it has nothing to do with the top report. other people have 22,63 EEF and are zero ashkenazi
4 pop report...you choose which best suits you

You do realise that EEF ( and others ) are centuries upon centuries upon centuries older than the 4000 year old jewish marker of ashkenazi , right!
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Well it's just that the 4 pop report shows the match with least distance... I know EEF is much older than Jews as an ethnic group who existed as such only for about 2,500 years! It's just that the fact that even AJs get 0% WHG outside the EEF... I don't know if it puts any sort of significant European admixture into doubt?
 
AgnusDei said:

MDLP K23b(revised)

Admix Results (sorted):

Population
North_African

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]

[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]25.93[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Near_East[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]22.72[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Caucasian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]17.26[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]European_Early_Farmers[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]14.75[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Subsaharian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]8.00[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]East_African[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.65[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Archaic_African[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.47[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]European_Hunters_Gatherers[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.93[/TD]

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tunisian @ 12.412248
2 Egyptian_Tanta @ 16.997145
3 Shaigi_Sudan @ 17.136944
4 Moroccan @ 17.880611
5 Algerian @ 18.442717
6 Egyptian_Iskandaria @ 18.615828
7 Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh @ 19.295046
8 Egyptian_Kuwait @ 19.365215
9 Egyptian_Mansoura @ 19.379889
10 Egyptian_Kairo @ 19.668936
11 Egyptian_Cairo @ 20.972237
12 Libyan_Jew @ 23.995220
13 BedouinA @ 24.191256
14 Tunisian_Jew @ 25.125029
15 Jordanian @ 25.671579
16 Yemen @ 26.269083
17 Morocco_South @ 26.487663
18 Moroccan_Jew @ 26.520597
19 Palestinian @ 28.098766
20 Muslim_Arabs_Israel @ 29.390078

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian +50% Egyptian_Cairo @ 5.704517


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian +25% Egyptian_Iskandaria +25% Saudi @ 4.981230


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Moroccan + Morocco_South + Puerto_Rican + Yemenite_Jew @ 4.951792
2 Algerian + Algerian + Egyptian_Iskandaria + Saudi @ 4.981230
3 Egyptian_Iskandaria + Morocco_South + Saudi + Shaigi_Sudan @ 5.048324
4 Algerian + Egyptian_Iskandaria + Morocco_South + Saudi @ 5.073341
5 Algerian + Egyptian_Iskandaria + Saudi + Shaigi_Sudan @ 5.132286
6 Algerian + Moroccan + Puerto_Rican + Yemenite_Jew @ 5.223339
7 Algerian + Algerian + Egyptian_Tanta + Yemen @ 5.270368
8 Algerian + Libyan_Jew + Morocco_South + Saudi @ 5.320713
9 Moroccan + Puerto_Rican + Shaigi_Sudan + Yemenite_Jew @ 5.352680
10 Algerian + Maltese + Morocco_South + Qatari @ 5.356130
11 Algerian + Moroccan_Jew + Morocco_South + Saudi @ 5.360307
12 Algerian + Egyptian_Iskandaria + Morocco_South + Yemenite_Jew @ 5.367686
13 Egyptian_Iskandaria + Mozabite + Qatari + Spanish_Murcia_IBS @ 5.390248
14 Morocco_South + Morocco_South + Qatari + Sicilian_Center @ 5.412871
15 Moroccan + Puerto_Rican + Tunisian + Yemenite_Jew @ 5.440884
16 Egyptian_Iskandaria + Saudi + Shaigi_Sudan + Shaigi_Sudan @ 5.457525
17 Puerto_Rican + Saharawi + Tunisian + Yemenite_Jew @ 5.463625
18 Morocco_South + Morocco_South + Qatari + Sicilian_Agrigento @ 5.481117
19 Algerian + Algerian + Egyptian_Iskandaria + Yemenite_Jew @ 5.482661
20 Algerian + Moroccan_Jew + Morocco_South + Qatari @ 5.496430

Done.
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Those are very high FST genetic distances. Maybe he doesn't have enough good reference samples? Or perhaps it's a function of the high diversity in North African populations.
 
John Doe said:
Well it's just that the 4 pop report shows the match with least distance... I know EEF is much older than Jews as an ethnic group who existed as such only for about 2,500 years! It's just that the fact that even AJs get 0% WHG outside the EEF... I don't know if it puts any sort of significant European admixture into doubt?
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take a look at your pop.2 ...sephatic jew ......are you nor ashkenazi?

look at pop 3...gagauz = moldovian

what is french jew ?

I agree the top might be accurate , and then also the next one, but after that its a lottery
 
Sile said:
take a look at your pop.2 ...sephatic jew ......are you nor ashkenazi?

look at pop 3...gagauz = moldovian

what is french jew ?

I agree the top might be accurate , and then also the next one, but after that its a lottery
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Yes I am AJ.
I see... Thanks! :)
 
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