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Yes, one type of Latvians have similar faces...other try
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a type of "borreby" on the cromagnoid side: frequent enough in estern Norway, can be found too in Germany (more Northern), the Netherlands, and also in Western Finland or Estonia or Latvia - not impossible at all in any North Europe country - the very light blond often associated to this type is maybe not general: maybe a cumulative effect other mutation associated to a first one producing middle-light hues only ?...
Why any more so than any other Mediterranean looking person? He's darker than average, but perhaps that's a tan.
This is another picture of him...
http://en.botevplovdiv.bg/i/oplayers/1046.jpg
There's a lot of bones in that nose it seems to me. It only looks sort of flat from the front. Or maybe I don't know what you mean by "Red Sea" looking?
He just looks like someone from the Balkans to me...the only thing a little different might be the mouth. On the other hand, orthodontic care isn't very widespread in some parts of Europe, not like here, where every other kid needs braces costing $10,000!
As for the blonde athlete...I know lots of Italians who have faces as broad as that and jaws and foreheads like that. It's just the nose that's different, and usually the pigmentation.
Sorry, Moesan, I don't like to be negative where you're concerned, but I'm a skeptic about these kinds of classifications, I'm afraid.
If anyone can persuade me that there's something to it, it will be you, however.
Yes, one type of Latvians have similar faces...
@ moesan
hmmm
alpinoid, short neck, big head,
central europe,
nose african style,
south Europe,
again hmmm
Spain Italy Balkans Turkey?
I will say around Adriatic sea, and Bulgaria
Makes sense somewhat. West Norway was the place in Norway richest with R1a, I think.
Oooooooo!!! I'm very sad after your observations:
the first man is very S-E mediterranean looking for features, not only for pigmentation - by the way the photo doesn't provide me a secure diagnostic for pigmentation!-
I thought you were more aware of what is typlogy in physical anthropology - His type can be found in Balkans and S-E Europe but is not typical of the Balkans and is very rare too in Western Mediterranea: If you prefer you can call it: 'arab'
concerning the second type, it is uncommon among Italians, at first place in Southern Italy - it 's not absent for historic and prehistoric reasons - the 'cromagnon' basis for this 'borreby 1' was very common in Europe between Paleo- and Mesolithic, in Italy as well as in Spain or elsewhere, in the Balkans and Carpathians too, before diverse evolutions and foreign colonizations - I know some Murcians with very 'cromagnoid' or 'borreby' features, whatever their pigmentation, spite the numeric domination of diverse 'mediterranean' types (a very unprecise term)
It seem to me you counfound physicalbasic types of more ancient human groups (born when isolation was more easy) with more recent ethnies where this ancient types are crossed with others -
I had already said that I CANNOT TELL THE ETHNIC appartenance of na European or "Caucasian" man, even if very often I CAN TELL WHAT HE IS NOT (exclusion) - the cause is very understandable: our ethnies are very often crossings of ancient types AT DIFFERENT LEVEL (SOMETIMES VERY VERY DIFFERENT!!!)sharing all the same basic - but I think these studies are a good complement of autosomals studies because these last ones don't provide us to precise borders between components, because of these already old enough crossings - I see the proof of that in the diverse classifications for autosomals groups as 'mediterranean' or 'western mediterranean' versus 'eastern mediterranean', or 'south-west-asian', 'west-asian' or 'caucasian', 'gedrosia', 'basque', sardinian', even 'atlantic', according to the different namings adopted - the cause is that there have been not only an acient 'continuum' between the regions and the populations concerned explaining their global genetic proximity but also new admixtures between them -
types or only someones of the possible panel - So I can often guess the origin of a human group if its members are of the same "stock" when I cannot do it for an unique individual - I can devine the origin of an Irish or Scottish group (say: 20 men) as well as of an Armemian one but within every groups and even in a unique individual too I can notice (even of the same family) some of the different influences of different primary types (what they called "subraces" in old time) -
hre problme with types is that in a relatively simple combination of few ("homozygotous") types, you can take a stable result of crossing (so "heterozygotous for external features) for a genuine original type ('dinaric' could be this confusng result) - it is true that even what I call a genuine type can have been born by very ancient crossings before any kind of selection - but as a whole, the most of the external features don't suffer too much selective pressure, except someones as pigmentation - and the diet and way of life modifies some features but not in a drastic way, at least in a short time: even the so called "gracilization" don't erase certain typical differences between human groups and it is for that I claim the agriculture in Balkans send foreign types from South-East, as classical anthropology claimed, and not only a "gracilization" phenomenon upon autochtones Hunters-Gatherers: a gracilized cromagnoid of Croatia never become a light 'mediterranen' in the course of some centuries! Today, the genetics is confirming that! This evolution certainly occurred but elsewhere and needed very more long time -
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