Elian
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- Y-DNA haplogroup
- I1-L813+
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- H2A2B1
I had the 23andMe dna testing done and was found to be I1 Ydna. I have a 67 marker test in process from FTDNA which I have been waiting for results on since last December. They say they are extremely backed up. I went for the 67 marker test because for many years my famiy on my father's side had assumed we would be related to Molloys in Ireland and yet after joining our surname project, virtually all of them have the same ydna except me and the people I have spoken with say they think I would have maybe more luck joining an I1 project. Our family name on my father's side is Molloy. But there are also Bradys and Reardons. The Ydna line that all the Molloys in Ireland thus far show is R1b-m222 if I have that right. As I say, I was surprised when I got the 23andMe results back and it didn't match what I have assumed it would be all along. I'd never even heard of the I1 haplogroup but then again this is in fact all new to me. This got me to wondering if maybe we place more importance in thinking about who we may be related to in past times on our surname that maybe is warranted. Not sure at this late date how we can assume too much dna/genetically from our surname alone. We are so far along in history it would seem to me that so much could have happened including even a surname change for reasons unkown to us now at some point in our ancestral line. I can find out where the Molloys hailed from in Ireland at one time in history, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are actually even ancestors of mine simply based on my last name. I may be missing something but that seems to me to be the deal with the whole dna/ancestry issue. I've been doing a lot of checking with various people and groups and it seems I1 is pretty sparse in Ireland. I have had one man from Ireland who is part of the aforementioned Molloy project who tells me that not all Molloys came from Ireland but some families are from Scotland and have been all the way through. Not sure if that is true or not but that tidbit leaves me scratching my head even more. For me, it is about tracing familial/ancestral roots if possible and while I have certainly not given up on that, the I1 designation honestly tosses a wrench into the works. Not sure where to look with that being the case or where along the line the I1 came into the picture for someone who at least superficially has Irish ancestry. The other ironic thing in this is that on my mother's side I expected Scandinavian and German ancestry because those are the predominant surnames on that side and her younger brother tested with 23andMe and was found to be R1a. I know I need to wait for the 67 marker tests from FTDNA and both Mr Nordvedt and another man named Tyrone Bowes from Ireland have asked to see and maybe interpret my results when they come in. I am new to all of this and still stumbling around in the dark a bit. Just trying to more or less get a grip on how the heck I ended up being I1 on my father's side. I1 is from what I have seen not rare at all, but in the case of people with my Irish surname it is apparently extremely rare. Is it possible my I1 is actually a very old line that was native to Ireland and if so, why no other Molloys from Ireland with I1 Ydna? Is there any evidence that I1 also is found in more Celtic peoples? Pardon my ignorance, but these are questions I am asking to learn more. I might add that the only designation 23andMe gave was "I1". There was no more detailed breakdown of subclades. Maybe that is normal for autosomal results(?) The info I have received on the supposed Scottish origin 'Molloy' goes as follows:
MacGiollaruaidh – Scottish surname Anglicised as McGilroy, Gilroy, Milroy, Milloy, Melroy, Molloy and Melloy
Others have also mentioned people known as "Gallowglass Mercenaries" in reference to historical point I1 may have gotten into my Molloy family line but again, I am quite wet behind the ears when it comes to all of this. I know what they were historically but don't as yet understand how that might have anything to do with my ydna ancestral line. I must admit, I have become quite impatient and not a little irritated that FTDNA is taking so long to get my 67 marker results done so I can get the other subclade details.
MacGiollaruaidh – Scottish surname Anglicised as McGilroy, Gilroy, Milroy, Milloy, Melroy, Molloy and Melloy
Others have also mentioned people known as "Gallowglass Mercenaries" in reference to historical point I1 may have gotten into my Molloy family line but again, I am quite wet behind the ears when it comes to all of this. I know what they were historically but don't as yet understand how that might have anything to do with my ydna ancestral line. I must admit, I have become quite impatient and not a little irritated that FTDNA is taking so long to get my 67 marker results done so I can get the other subclade details.
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