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Post your Near East Neolithic K13 Admixture

Italian (north)

Population - Father's / Mother's / Mine - 23andMe / Mine - FTDNA

SE_ASIAN - 0 / 0 / 0 / 0
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC - 23.00 / 21.52 / 23.19 / 21.85
CHG_EEF - 35.44 / 38.75 / 34.65 / 35.35
POLAR - 0 / 0 / 0.26 / 0.11
EHG - 12.86 / 11.85 / 11.10 / 11.73
SUB_SAHARAN - 0 / 0.82 / 0 / 0
IRAN_NEOLITHIC - 7.11 / 7.23 / 9.99 / 10.01
KARITIANA - 0 / 1.64 / 0.43 / 0.43
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN - 0.75 / 0 / 0.66 / 0.70
NATUFIAN - 10.04 / 7.73 / 10.13 / 10.26
SIBERIAN - 0.53 / 0 / 0 / 0
PAPUAN - 0.89 / 0 / 0 / 0
SHG_WHG - 9.37 / 10.45 / 9.58 / 9.56


1 Albanian 6.37 / Bulgarian 3.88 / Albanian 5.31 / Albanian 5.1
2 Bulgarian / Romanian / Greek / Bulgarian
3 Greek / Albanian / Bulgarian / Greek
4 Romanian / Greek / Sicilian / Sicilian
5 Sicilian / French / Romanian / Romanian
 
Twilight said:
Here are the results for Temrta IV, a sample from the Yamna Horizon page. If this is correct, I wonder if the Indo-Europeans learned farming via the Zagro's mountain people.

http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/yamna_culture.shtml

Near East Neolithic K13 Oracle results:

gedrosia K13 Oracle

Kit F999968

Admix Results (sorted):

Population
EHG

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]

[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]91.64[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]CHG_EEF[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]6.82[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]IRAN_NEOLITHIC[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.03[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]SHG_WHG[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.41[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.09[/TD]

Single Population Sharing:

Population (source)
Steppe_EMBA

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Distance [/TD]

[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]7.64[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]EHG[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]9.98[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Steppe_Eneolithic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]15.97[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]MA1[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]33.78[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Steppe_MLBA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]50.16[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Steppe_IA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]54.08[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Europe_LNBA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]63.93[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Mansi[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]76.88[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Russian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]78.35[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Tajik[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]78.87[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Finnish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]78.93[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Estonian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]79.69[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Norwegian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]80.03[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]80.44[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Lezgin[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]80.47[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]80.58[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Ukrainian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]80.61[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Chechen[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]80.72[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Lithuanian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]81.11[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Scottish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]81.45[/TD]

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[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="colspan: 3"] Primary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"] Secondary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] Distance [/TD]

[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]92.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]CHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.46[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]94.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Steppe_EMBA[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]5.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]CHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.23[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]83.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]16.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Steppe_MLBA[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.3[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Norwegian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.32[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Estonian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.38[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.39[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Lithuanian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.42[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Ukrainian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.46[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Czech[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.53[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Finnish[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.54[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.56[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Scottish[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.56[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]11%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Russian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.57[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Hungarian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.65[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Croatian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.71[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]French[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.99[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Romanian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Bulgarian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.25[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]87.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]12.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Europe_LNBA[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.36[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]90.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]9.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Albanian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.57[/TD]
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Plesse read the opening post oft the thread. I clearly mentioned that the calculator is not good for ancient samples and gives incorrect results. Only use it for modern samples.
 
Regio X said:
Italian (north)

Population - Father's / Mother's / Mine - 23andMe / Mine - FTDNA

SE_ASIAN - 0 / 0 / 0 / 0
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC - 23.00 / 21.52 / 23.19 / 21.85
CHG_EEF - 35.44 / 38.75 / 34.65 / 35.35
POLAR - 0 / 0 / 0.26 / 0.11
EHG - 12.86 / 11.85 / 11.10 / 11.73
SUB_SAHARAN - 0 / 0.82 / 0 / 0
IRAN_NEOLITHIC - 7.11 / 7.23 / 9.99 / 10.01
KARITIANA - 0 / 1.64 / 0.43 / 0.43
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN - 0.75 / 0 / 0.66 / 0.70
NATUFIAN - 10.04 / 7.73 / 10.13 / 10.26
SIBERIAN - 0.53 / 0 / 0 / 0
PAPUAN - 0.89 / 0 / 0 / 0
SHG_WHG - 9.37 / 10.45 / 9.58 / 9.56


1 Albanian 6.37 / Bulgarian 3.88 / Albanian 5.31 / Albanian 5.1
2 Bulgarian / Romanian / Greek / Bulgarian
3 Greek / Albanian / Bulgarian / Greek
4 Romanian / Greek / Sicilian / Sicilian
5 Sicilian / French / Romanian / Romanian
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I would bet he has no Northern Italian or Tuscan reference samples, which makes no sense, because they're freely available.
 
[FONT=&quot]my result/FTDNA:

SE_ASIAN -
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 8.48
CHG_EEF 8.52
POLAR -
EHG -
SUB_SAHARAN 52.54
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 6.80
KARITIANA 1.06
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 0.24
NATUFIAN 20.89
SIBERIAN 1.17
PAPUAN 0.16
SHG_WHG 0.14[/FONT]
 
Angela said:
I would bet he has no Northern Italian or Tuscan reference samples, which makes no sense, because they're freely available.
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Agreed, Angela. In my case, neither Northern Italian nor Tuscan has been listed among the top 20. This would be impossible if the two populations were being used as references. And I cannot understand why they aren't. It doesn't make sense, indeed.
 
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gedrosia K13 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

Population

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]CHG_EEF[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]38.04[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]EHG[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]16.20[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]SHG_WHG[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]15.45[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]14.79[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]NATUFIAN[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]6.94[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]IRAN_NEOLITHIC[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]6.03[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]PAPUAN[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.26
[/TD]


Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanian @ 8.595077
2 Bulgarian @ 9.142227
3 French @ 9.242697
4 Croatian @ 9.474955
5 Hungarian @ 9.544773


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Europe_LNBA + Jew_Moroccan + Scottish + Ukrainian @ 3.686797
2 Europe_LNBA + Hungarian + Jew_Moroccan + Ukrainian @ 3.754552
3 Europe_LNBA + Jew_Moroccan + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 3.758990
4 Europe_LNBA + French + Jew_Moroccan + Ukrainian @ 3.760809
5 Europe_LNBA + Jew_Moroccan + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.789886

Not sure what to make of any of this... doesn't seem to be very accurate
 
Promenade said:
gedrosia K13 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

Population
CHG_EEF
EHG

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]

[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]38.04[/TD]

[TD="align: center"]2[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]16.20[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]SHG_WHG[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]15.45[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]14.79[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]NATUFIAN[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]6.94[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]IRAN_NEOLITHIC[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]6.03[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]PAPUAN[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.26[/TD]


Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanian @ 8.595077
2 Bulgarian @ 9.142227
3 French @ 9.242697
4 Croatian @ 9.474955
5 Hungarian @ 9.544773


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Europe_LNBA + Jew_Moroccan + Scottish + Ukrainian @ 3.686797
2 Europe_LNBA + Hungarian + Jew_Moroccan + Ukrainian @ 3.754552
3 Europe_LNBA + Jew_Moroccan + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 3.758990
4 Europe_LNBA + French + Jew_Moroccan + Ukrainian @ 3.760809
5 Europe_LNBA + Jew_Moroccan + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.789886

Not sure what to make of any of this... doesn't seem to be very accurate
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Papuan sounds interesting, do you have a deep family tree going back to your 4th great Grandparent+? Having 1% Papuan ancestry could mean you had; at most recent a 4th great Grandpa/Grandma that lived in Indonesia or at least Polynesia. The Polynesians colonized all sorts of places from the Indian Ocean to at least Easter Island.
Here is a wiki link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesia

Ultimately a European getting SW Asian Ancestry is to be expected since the Epipaleolithic Fertile Crescent and Taurus/Zagros people taught Europe farming and Herding techniques. This migration sparked the European Neolithic
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic
 
Twilight said:
Papuan sounds interesting, do you have a deep family tree going back to your 4th great Grandparent+? Having 1% Papuan ancestry could mean you had; at most recent a 4th great Grandpa/Grandma that lived in Indonesia or at least Polynesia. The Polynesians colonized all sorts of places from the Indian Ocean to at least Easter Island.
Here is a wiki link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesia

Ultimately a European getting SW Asian Ancestry is to be expected since the Epipaleolithic Fertile Crescent and Taurus/Zagros people taught Europe farming and Herding techniques. This migration sparked the European Neolithic
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic
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I can trace my ancestry 6 generations back in almost all directions and I dont have any relatives even remotely close to the area. I've also done quite a number of autosomal tests (23andMe, Ancestry,FTDNA etc) and although results vary I've never received anything saying I had ancestry from the area. My best guess is it's just noise, the test doesnt seem that accurate. The ancestry approximation it gave me compared to other tests on Gedmatch has a much larger distance(8.595077 using one population and 3.686797 with 4).

Other than that the SW Asian ancestry is expected, FTDNA claimed 8 percent of my ancestry came from Anatolia and some Gedmatch tests gave me similar results of around 8 percent from ancient mid east sources so I guess the Neolithic farmers left a large impression on my genetics since I'm mostly north european. Despite that I dont think this test is very reliable.
 
Promenade said:
I can trace my ancestry 6 generations back in almost all directions and I dont have any relatives even remotely close to the area. I've also done quite a number of autosomal tests (23andMe, Ancestry,FTDNA etc) and although results vary I've never received anything saying I had ancestry from the area. My best guess is it's just noise, the test doesnt seem that accurate. The ancestry approximation it gave me compared to other tests on Gedmatch has a much larger distance(8.595077 using one population and 3.686797 with 4).

Other than that the SW Asian ancestry is expected, FTDNA claimed 8 percent of my ancestry came from Anatolia and some Gedmatch tests gave me similar results of around 8 percent from ancient mid east sources so I guess the Neolithic farmers left a large impression on my genetics since I'm mostly north european. Despite that I dont think this test is very reliable.
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If that's the case than I suppose your right although I'm baffled on how Polynesian genes got mixed up with Northern Europeans admixture. Unless if a Polynesian/European decendant never knew about his or her European heritage.

Perhaps Dna decoding of Ancient Polynesian remains will solve this noise. ^_^
 
It could just be one of those weird prehistoric connections. Kind of like how some dude in Sweden gets 1 percent Native American or something.
 
davef said:
It could just be one of those weird prehistoric connections. Kind of like how some dude in Sweden gets 1 percent Native American or something.
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Well the haplogroups native to Polynesia are predominately Ydna M, K, O3 and C2. The only way a Northern Europeans could've gotten Ydna C predominate heritage in their bloodline is if his ancestors were convicted of a crime and was briefly sent to Australia and as a consequent he or she marked an Aborigine then the couple immigrate back into Europe when the sentence was lifted or if it's noise dated from Cro-Magnon times; the first Moden HomoSapiens in Europe were a blend of tribes carrying Ydna C, A and H2. Or perhaps Pomedade's ancestors took part in the Silk Road caring East Asian lineages along the way; although I think that is unlikely since the Byzantine Romans was the furthest west the Silk Road went.
http://en.unesco.org/silkroad/network-silk-road-cities-map-app/en

Another possibility is that the Papuan lineage is located in the 6th chromosome, there have been some threads on 23andme warning about noises concentrated in the 6th chromozone.

The Papuan-like lineage could be anything at this point but this is all the possibilities I can think off.


However for the Swedish person, the 1% Native American can possibly be explained by Hunnish immigration into Scandinavia http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml



Other Sources:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hum...media/File:World_Map_of_Y-DNA_Haplogroups.png

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml#prehistory
 
Sounds reasonable. If he gets something like that in every test out there he should definitely look into that.
 
Twilight said:
If that's the case than I suppose your right although I'm baffled on how Polynesian genes got mixed up with Northern Europeans admixture. Unless if a Polynesian/European decendant never knew about his or her European heritage.

Perhaps Dna decoding of Ancient Polynesian remains will solve this noise. ^_^
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I've never received Polynesian or Papuan on any autosomal test I took before, I think it's just an outlier. Is it really so odd that it showed up here? i didnt think much of it when I saw it, i just assumed it the test was inaccurate.
 
Promenade said:
I've never received Polynesian or Papuan on any autosomal test I took before, I think it's just an outlier. Is it really so odd that it showed up here? i didnt think much of it when I saw it, i just assumed it the test was inaccurate.
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It's quite alright, if this hypothesis specifically is correct on that notion than the Papuan gene might have been mistaken for British, French or Spaniard-like genes for those were the European countries that actively colonized the Pacific Ocean besides America.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europeans_in_Oceania
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._colonial_possessions
 
Oh! They already made calculators about the Middle East latest finds, nice! ^__^

Mine:




[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Population

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"] [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]SE_ASIAN[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]18.99[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]CHG_EEF[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]38.39[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]POLAR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]0.50[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]EHG[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]14.77[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]SUB_SAHARAN[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]IRAN_NEOLITHIC[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]2.81[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]KARITIANA[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]1.21[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]ANCESTRAL_INDIAN[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]2.39[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]NATUFIAN[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]8.31[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]SIBERIAN[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]PAPUAN[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]0.16[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]SHG_WHG[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]12.48[/TD]
[/TD]
 
Alan said:
Plesse read the opening post oft the thread. I clearly mentioned that the calculator is not good for ancient samples and gives incorrect results. Only use it for modern samples.
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With all do respect I hate to say this but no calculator is 100% correct, same with Archeology and Linguistics. Science evolves as well as genetics so naturally your calculated Dna would evolve over time. We'd have to get a time machine and visit every one of our Ancestors to get an accurate analysis.

For example it was only recently when we thought Polynesians came from South America instead of Asia. ;) Its just fun exploration and learning about new cultures, nothing too serious ^_^.
 
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Since there seems to be still confusion about the point/goal of this calculator let me clarify again few points ^^

1. The calculator is only meant to show an estimate of Post mesolithic Near Eastern ancestry (Anatolian_Neo, Natufian, Iran_Neo, CHG ).
2. The calculator is not accurate in oracle results showing the best population matches this might be because not enough refference samples were used.
3. Kurd admitted and mentioned that the calculator has huge errors when it comes to ancient samples. Things like 80-90% EHG for Steppe are obviously absolutely wrong.
 
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Population

[TD="align: center"][/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]

[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]CHG_EEF[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]42.91[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]SHG_WHG[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]15.65[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]EHG[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]15.42[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]14.05[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]NATUFIAN[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]6.55[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]IRAN_NEOLITHIC[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.82[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]ANCESTRAL_INDIAN[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.21[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]SIBERIAN[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.25[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]KARITIANA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.15[/TD]
 
Alan said:
Since there seems to be still confusion about the point/goal of this calculator let me clarify again few points ^^

1. The calculator is only meant to show an estimate of Post mesolithic Near Eastern ancestry (Anatolian_Neo, Natufian, Iran_Neo, CHG ).
2. The calculator is not accurate in oracle results showing the best population matches this might be because not enough refference samples were used.
3. Kurd admitted and mentioned that the calculator is huge errors when it comes to ancient samples. Things like 80-90% EHG for Steppe are obviously absolutely wrong.
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Thats strange, I admit I guess I didn't pay attention on how the steppes faired. Thanks for the insight though
 
Population
SE_ASIAN -
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 22.29
CHG_EEF 38.43
POLAR 1.17
EHG 8.13
SUB_SAHARAN -
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 10.25
KARITIANA -
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN -
NATUFIAN 11.01
SIBERIAN -
PAPUAN -
SHG_WHG 8.72
 
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