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Permit me to doubt that a teen-ager in Chicago could have any basis of comparison since I doubt there's a lot of Iranians, or even French people, Spaniards, or Northern Italians living there. Most Hispanics are racially admixed. Are you taking lessons from Sikeliot, the basement amateur anthropologist on theapricity?
Second of all, the eyes are totally off for Iranians, who have much bigger eyes, and the coloring as well. The combination of features and pigmentation does not at all "spell" Iranian. Europeans have an eye for what other Europeans look like. This actress looks either French, Spanish or Italian. This woman looks like a southern European, and her name shows she probably has Spanish ancestry.
The first women has strong Germanic features even though as you say she is French. The third one should be from Bretain province, with that Celtic look.Two last one also have Germanic look for most partJust for some context, these three women have important roles in the series and have French surnames:
This one also has a major role, but the surname isn't French. Her name is Marie Kremer.
The first women has strong Germanic features even though as you say she is French. The third one should be from Bretain province, with that Celtic look.Two last one also have Germanic look for most part
I think it may be a mixture of Italian with Greek, comes to my head the Rape of the Sabines.:wary2: I think it's a mixture, Celtic something else.Strictly for fun, could you guys take a stab at "classifying her"? This combination puzzles me.
Would different pigmentation change the classification?
I think it may be a mixture of Italian with Greek, comes to my head the Rape of the Sabines.:wary2: I think it's a mixture, Celtic something else.
How did the Greeks get into the admixture of the Sabines and the Romans?
I agree she shows admixture, but everyone in Europe is admixed, although there's more variation in southern Europe.
Other than her "fitting" in the Near East, I think Yetos came closest.
The Ancient Greeks were adventurous colonizers of the Mediterranean in Antiquity especially the Phocaeans, colonizing places that would one day become parts of the Roman Empire and around the Black Sea. The Greeks also set up a colony in Italy called Magna Graecia. Some Greek colonies were even founded by the vanquished; either from invasion or civil wars between different tribes.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Graecia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phocaea
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonies_in_antiquity
Italians and Greeks have been genetically tightly knit ever since until at least the Dark Ages/Middle Age invasions into the Mediterranean. Both Sabine, Italian and Greeks I could imagine be confused with each other.
As for my shot at guessing probably Northern Italian/French
Just for some context, these three women have important roles in the series and have French surnames:
This one also has a major role, but the surname isn't French. Her name is Marie Kremer.
Here's a northern Italian who has a similar kind of facial structure, I think: Irene Fornaciari, singer herself and daughter of singer Zucchero Fornaciari.
Yes, I know...last I heard he still has the property outside Pontremoli that he's had for ever. I think his father moved them to Carrara when he was young. If he spits he can practically hit Emilia from Pontremoli, so not much of a change. I've seen Irene in Pontremoli a lot in the summer, him too, but I thought she now lived in Genova.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0CmPhrfUdg
Anyway...your point was? My categorization of her as northern Italian doesn't suit your exacting standards?
The point was whether she is of a similar type, yes? Your opinion?
Fwiw she looks a lot like one of my full Emilian cousins, only my cousin didn't let herself get fat like that...same once really red hair, freckles, blue eyes, and even the same height and big bones. I didn't get any of it, except the paleness and the face shape. My rather square jaw is not my favorite feature.
Yes, I know...last I heard he still has the property outside Pontremoli that he's had for ever. I think his father moved them to Carrara when he was young. If he spits he can practically hit Emilia from Pontremoli, so not much of a change. I've seen Irene in Pontremoli a lot in the summer, him too, but I thought she now lived in Genova.
Anyway...your point was? My categorization of her as northern Italian doesn't suit your exacting standards?
The point was whether she is of a similar type, yes? Your opinion?
Fwiw she looks a lot like one of my full Emilian cousins, only my cousin didn't let herself get fat like that...same once really red hair, freckles, blue eyes, and even the same height and big bones. I didn't get any of it, except the paleness and the face shape. My rather square jaw is not my favorite feature.
Poor Irene, some of the pictures posted are really unflattering. Here she is when her weight is under control...quite familiar body type for that area....
Here is a good profile picture of her:
In some pictures I think she and Wynona Judd share a bit of a resemblance. She's half Italian by the way.
Here is Irene performing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K0ioyS5PYk
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