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E-V13 Thracian samples

Q1a_351:I20182,0.125205,0.144205,0.003017,-0.001292,0.00677,0,-0.00376,-0.006923,-0.011249,0.001093,0.002761,0.005695,-0.012636,-0.003165,0.000679,-0.005967,0.005998,0.00114,-0.004777,0.004377,-0.001373,0.010881,0.008011,0.003735,-0.003233
E-V13_361:I20185,0.126344,0.158423,0.008674,-0.053295,0.040315,-0.034582,0.003995,-0.000231,0.005318,0.049204,0.004547,0.012889,-0.015015,-0.005367,-0.028366,-0.010342,0.013821,0.004307,0.010936,-0.01038,-0.009109,0.002349,0,0.000361,0.000239
E-V13_359:I20183,0.120652,0.160454,0.010559,-0.041344,0.030775,-0.02259,0.00282,-0.003,0.017794,0.047017,0.003085,0.013488,-0.008771,-0.004954,-0.029587,0.005171,0.024903,0.003674,0.008673,-0.001,-0.004866,-0.00371,0.000739,0.005784,-0.011017
R1a_362:I20186,0.122929,0.155376,0.007542,-0.059755,0.031698,-0.025937,0.0047,-0.005077,0.009408,0.049204,-0.001624,0.009292,-0.020069,0.007432,-0.028637,-0.016706,-0.001043,0.000633,0.01433,-0.010505,-0.009733,0.001855,-0.005669,0.003976,-0.002515
E-V13_358:I20181,0.119514,0.157407,0.007165,-0.039083,0.028621,-0.023985,-0.003995,-0.003923,0.014726,0.04319,0.002923,0.008692,-0.0278,0.003165,-0.016422,0.003315,0.032074,0.008108,0.018603,-0.004252,-0.00836,-0.000742,-0.010106,0.002289,-0.016885
E-V13_357:I20180,0.119514,0.167562,0.009051,-0.064923,0.03693,-0.022311,0.002115,-0.006,0.009204,0.047199,0.003248,0.004646,-0.013082,0.004542,-0.021444,-0.018695,-0.004172,0.003801,0.005405,-0.011881,-0.011605,0.002473,-0.000863,-0.006266,-0.012334
E-V13_Rozovo_320:I19500,0.117238,0.1635,0.003394,-0.056202,0.022466,-0.012829,-0.002115,-0.002308,0.000409,0.03426,0.001137,0.009292,-0.018137,0.001927,-0.018865,-0.020286,0.00339,0.006714,0.012821,-0.008754,-0.004492,0.01051,-0.004683,0.005422,-0.010777
E-V13_Boyanovo_383:I18792,0.114961,0.180764,0.000754,-0.055556,0.023081,-0.02008,-0.00611,0.000462,0.017998,0.043737,-0.008607,0.001649,-0.024678,-0.017616,-0.021444,-0.00716,0.020079,-0.013302,-0.006913,-0.004752,-0.013227,0.016075,-0.006655,0.023377,-0.008981

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]E-V13_361:I20185[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03360491[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03574293[/TD]
[TD]HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03593462[/TD]
[TD]HUN_Avar_Early_Tisza:I18185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03670608[/TD]
[TD]Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04012104[/TD]
[TD]SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I11722[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04051595[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3876[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04374654[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Varna_C:ANI159-ANI181[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04413847[/TD]
[TD]SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I12097[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04519244[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean:I9041[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04532439[/TD]
[TD]HUN_Avar_Early_Kövegy:I16750[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04592780[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3878[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04594891[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sardinia_IA:I10366[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04624949[/TD]
[TD]DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_o:STR_300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04655755[/TD]
[TD]MDA_Trypillia_Late:Gordinesti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04684505[/TD]
[TD]HUN_IA_La_Tene_oEast:I18832[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04704299[/TD]
[TD]MDA_Trypillia_Lateocrovca3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04720720[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean:I9006[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04802896[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Late_C:I2430[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04893819[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04912342[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_MBA:I3125[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04976790[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_EBA:I3124[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04993500[/TD]
[TD]Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05033124[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Peloponnese_N:I3920[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05033515[/TD]
[TD]Levant_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05044236[/TD]
[TD]BGR_C:I2519

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]E-V13_359:I20183[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03507599[/TD]
[TD]HUN_IA_La_Tene_oEast:I18832[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03525871[/TD]
[TD]MDA_Trypillia_Late:Gordinesti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03648193[/TD]
[TD]HUN_Avar_Early_Kövegy:I16750[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03649306[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03719979[/TD]
[TD]HUN_Avar_Early_Tisza:I18185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04038396[/TD]
[TD]SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I11722[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04137300[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04326141[/TD]
[TD]Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04438950[/TD]
[TD]HUN_IA_La_Tene_o:I4998[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04525258[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sardinia_IA:I10366[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04550480[/TD]
[TD]HRV_Pop_CAOP39[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04664004[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR111[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04754596[/TD]
[TD]Bell_Beaker_ITA:I1979[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04770639[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean:I9041[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04875212[/TD]
[TD]MDA_Trypillia_Lateocrovca3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04911202[/TD]
[TD]SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I12097[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04930032[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Late_C:I2430[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05016616[/TD]
[TD]HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ40[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05025144[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_MBA:I3125[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05109560[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3878[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05174065[/TD]
[TD]HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05202023[/TD]
[TD]BGR_EBA:I2175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05208033[/TD]
[TD]HUN_Sarmatian_Late_Transtisza:A181027[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05213665[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_EBA:UZZ057[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05226789[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean:I9006
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]E-V13_358:I20181[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03155147[/TD]
[TD]HUN_Avar_Early_Kövegy:I16750[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03778236[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04047889[/TD]
[TD]HUN_IA_La_Tene_oEast:I18832[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04051519[/TD]
[TD]HUN_Avar_Early_Tisza:I18185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04511422[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04547956[/TD]
[TD]MDA_Trypillia_Late:Gordinesti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04655449[/TD]
[TD]SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I11722[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04793471[/TD]
[TD]HUN_IA_La_Tene_o:I4998[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04853368[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean:I9041[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04861221[/TD]
[TD]Bell_Beaker_ITA:I1979[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04871085[/TD]
[TD]Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04953981[/TD]
[TD]HRV_Pop_CAOP39[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05175131[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean:I9006[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05188689[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sardinia_IA:I10366[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05190071[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR118[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05296590[/TD]
[TD]HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ40[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05308088[/TD]
[TD]MDA_Trypillia_Lateocrovca3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05324612[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR111[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05387367[/TD]
[TD]HUN_Sarmatian_Late_Transtisza:A181027[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05414560[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Tarquinia_EMA:TAQ022[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05432969[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_EBA:UZZ057[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05452510[/TD]
[TD]ITA_PoggioPelliccia_EMAOP001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05452824[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance:RMPR973[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05566459[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance:RMPR969[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05573292[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_MBA:I3125

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]E-V13_357:I20180[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03261722[/TD]
[TD]HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03322936[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3876[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03681202[/TD]
[TD]SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I12097[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03791955[/TD]
[TD]Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03922435[/TD]
[TD]Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04000906[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04204101[/TD]
[TD]HUN_Avar_Early_Tisza:I18185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04429207[/TD]
[TD]SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I11722[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04446381[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sardinia_MA:SNN003[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04456282[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR002[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04504348[/TD]
[TD]DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_o:STR_300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04573734[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Middle_C:I2431[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04644464[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_LBA:I10372[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04737405[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04745766[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3878[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04899026[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_EBA:I11442[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04918713[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_MBA:I4109[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04983490[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sardinia_IA:I10366[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04997527[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Manika_Helladic_EBA:Mik15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05087199[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Varna_C:ANI159-ANI181[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05099286[/TD]
[TD]BGR_C:I2519[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05101459[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR113[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05112575[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA:Kou01[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05114416[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Late_C:I2427[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05122888[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sicily_EBA:I3124
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]E-V13_Rozovo_320:I19500[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03287552[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03489804[/TD]
[TD]HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03494769[/TD]
[TD]Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03798089[/TD]
[TD]HUN_Avar_Early_Tisza:I18185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.03915431[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean:I9041[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04081525[/TD]
[TD]DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_o:STR_300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04081858[/TD]
[TD]Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04091241[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Chiusi_EMA:ETR013[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04130007[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR122[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04154816[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04218392[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1287[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04233448[/TD]
[TD]SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I12097[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04255991[/TD]
[TD]SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I11722[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04266448[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR52[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04274454[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR121[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04283924[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Chiusi_EMA:ETR010[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04349276[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Tarquinia_Imperial:TAQ021[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04364381[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR836[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04445463[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Collegno_MA:CL121[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04542595[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04634528[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR137[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04648783[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1285[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04655952[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean:I9033[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04664921[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR113[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04680752[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR49

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]E-V13_Boyanovo_383:I18792[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.04816825[/TD]
[TD]Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05173422[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean:I9041[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05393385[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05410868[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05431575[/TD]
[TD]DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_o:STR_300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05771478[/TD]
[TD]MDA_Trypillia_Late:Gordinesti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05833139[/TD]
[TD]HUN_Avar_Early_Kövegy:I16750[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05841322[/TD]
[TD]HUN_Avar_Early_Tisza:I18185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.05915055[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Sardinia_IA:I10366[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.06255888[/TD]
[TD]HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ40[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.06268334[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Peloponnese_N:I3920[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.06270550[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Tarquinia_Imperial:TAQ021[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]0.06287931[/TD]
[TD]ITA_Daunian:SAL003[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]ITA_Sicily_EBA:UZZ057[/TD]
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[TD]ITA_Ordona_MA:ORD010[/TD]
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[TD]HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19[/TD]
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[TD]BGR_Krepost_N:I0679_d[/TD]
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[Archetype0ne]

G25 Ancient Albania to CE samples scaled

1) I13833; ca. 1400-1800 CE; Barç, Korçë; J2a-Y18824 | I13833,0.086506,0.054839,-0.071653,0.020995,-0.023389,0.017012,0.002585,-0.003,0.007158,0.018953,0.002111,0.005695,0.004757 ,0.007294,-0.015744,-0.016043,0.002086,0.003927,0.007668,-0.001376,-0.006613,0.00643,0.005546,0.00012,0.00467

2) 2) I14688; ca. 600-400 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; R1b-L51 | I14688,0.122929,0.161469,0.02489,-0.028101,0.028005,-0.015618,0.004935,0.001846,0.000409,0.019499,-0.000974,0.01139,-0.016799,-0.004266,-0.006786,-0.016441,-0.009518,0.004054,0.005028,-0.007253,-0.013601,0.009398,-0.005176,0.011086,-0.007065

3) I14690; ca. 1700-400 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; R1b-CTS1450 | I14690,0.125205,0.149283,0.034318,-0.00646,0.029544,-0.005857,-0.001175,0.004846,-0.00225,0.019681,0.001461,0.002698,-0.020069,-0.006468,-0.003122,0.002121,0.001825,0.003167,0.002011,-0.002501,-0.007861,0.003462,0.005423,-0.004217,-0.005269

4) I16251; ca. 500-50 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; R1b-M269 | I16251,0.124067,0.144205,0.018102,-0.019703,0.025851,-0.003347,0.002115,0.008077,0.000205,0.022233,-0.000974,0.005095,-0.017096,-0.017753,-0.013301,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.003294,0.010182,-0.013006,-0.000125,0.005441,-0.007148,-0.001687,-0.004431

5) I16253; ca.658-403 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; J2b-Y21878 | I16253,0.130897,0.156392,0.034318,-0.010982,0.035083,-0.000279,0.002115,0.001846,0.0045,0.029158,0.00893 1,0.015436,-0.024083,-0.001927,-0.012893,0.000796,0.012647,0.008361,0.011816,-0.009505,-0.011355,-0.002349,-0.003944,0.008917,-0.007185

6) I16254; ca. 600-400 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; J2b-Z622 | I16254,0.120652,0.157407,0.039598,-0.006137,0.031698,-0.011992,0.00705,-0.014076,-0.011044,0.033896,-0.002761,0.001349,-0.018137,-0.005918,-0.010586,-0.007558,0.021774,0.00076,-0.009176,-0.013256,-0.006988,-0.003215,-0.010846,0.01446,-0.008382

7) I17633; ca. 700-400 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; J2b-Z593 | (Can’t find sample ID for G25?)

8) I14689; ca. 2663-2472 BCE; Çinamak, Kukës; R1b-M269 | I14689,0.121791,0.117801,0.034695,0.045866,-0.006463,0.014781,0.009165,-0.000923,-0.027815,-0.01549,-0.003085,0,-0.008771,0.005367,0.013572,-0.011933,-0.012778,0.004181,0.006536,-0.01013,-0.003743,-0.005935,0.017008,0.013014,-0.011496

9) I8471; ca. 1880-1695 BCE; Shkrel, Malësi e Madhe; J2b-Z597 | I8471,0.124067,0.144205,0.017725,0.000323,0.03416,-0.019801,0.00564,-0.012461,0.011658,0.034078,0.003248,0.004346,-0.005352,-0.022432,-0.008822,0.004243,0.026989,-0.007475,0.001885,0.006128,-0.000873,0.006059,0.007765,0.010724,0.008143

10) I13834; ca. 1402-1439 CE; Barç, Korçë; R1b-PF7563 | 14:I13834,0.12862,0.145221,0.01961,-0.01292,0.012925,-0.007809,-0.00141,-0.006461,0.002863,0.025878,-0.000325,0.006145,-0.022002,-0.004266,-0.012486,-0.009546,0.003912,0.003421,0.008045,-0.013131,-0.010107,0.006059,-0.004437,-0.000602,-0.004191

11) I14622; ca. 773-885 CE; Kënetë, Kukës; T-FGC47678 | 16:I14622,0.111547,0.15436,0.013953,-0.033592,0.016003,-0.001673,-0.001645,-0.001385,-0.001227,0.016037,0.006008,0.005845,-0.005946,0.00234,-0.013436,-0.013259,0.015255,-0.007728,0.009302,-0.012381,-0.015348,0.006801,-0.005669,-0.00735,-0.005389

12) I13838; ca. 5000-3500 BCE; Tren Cave, Korçë; G-P303 | I13838,0.122929,0.18178,0.004903,-0.101745,0.04647,-0.049364,-0.001645,-0.002308,0.032519,0.080366,0.012666,0.015286,-0.02438,0.004129,-0.039359,-0.021347,0.002999,-0.00114,0.00993,-0.016133,-0.005615,0.005812,-0.000616,-0.001807,-0.010538

13) I13840; ca. 4313-4051 BCE; Tren Cave, Korçë; G-F2572 | I13840,0.125205,0.187873,0.003394,-0.101745,0.044008,-0.04518,-0.00517,-0.003692,0.043155,0.081095,0.005034,0.007643,-0.022745,-0.002477,-0.04058,-0.013259,0.012647,0.00228,0.007793,-0.02076,-0.015348,0.006059,-0.005793,0.000482,-0.005269

14) I14686; ca. 1400-1700 CE; Bardhoc, Kukës; I2a-Y4884 | I14686,0.114961,0.152329,0.006034,-0.027778,0.024004,-0.007809,-0.00235,0.004846,-0.002863,0.022415,-0.001461,0.013938,-0.011744,0.005367,-0.028773,0.001591,0.013299,0.00114,0.009176,-0.007754,-0.009858,0.008161,0.000739,0.005061,-0.00467

15) I14687; ca. 1400-1700 CE; Bardhoc, Kukës; R1b-CTS1450 | I14687,0.119514,0.155376,0.002263,-0.020995,0.032006,-0.008925,-0.002585,0.007384,0.004704,0.0277,0.00682,0.003897 ,-0.013231,-0.002752,-0.021851,0.005701,0.027511,0.005448,-0.000251,-0.008504,-0.018467,0.008656,0.006162,0.004579,-0.019639

16) I15706; ca. 1527-1660 CE; Pazhok, Elbasan; R1a-Y81700 | 24:I15706,0.1161,0.144205,0.018856,-0.013566,0.022773,-0.006693,-0.003995,0.002769,0.004909,0.005832,0.003248,0.001 349,-0.001784,0.009634,-0.014794,-0.001458,-0.000652,0.00152,0.000377,-0.003001,-0.006239,-0.002968,0.001725,-0.004579,-0.001078

17) I15707; ca. 1472-1632 CE; Bardhoc, Kukës; J2b-Z631 | I15707,0.126344,0.153345,0.020365,-0.026809,0.028928,-0.01506,0.01081,-0.006,0.00225,0.025149,-0.001786,0.005995,-0.019029,-0.004817,-0.019001,-0.000265,0.028554,0.001267,0.011313,-0.004502,-0.017594,0.004699,0.001356,0.00241,0.001796

Formatted

I13833 1400-1800 CE Barç Korçë J2a-Y18824 ,0.086506,0.054839,-0.071653,0.020995,-0.023389,0.017012,0.002585,-0.003,0.007158,0.018953,0.002111,0.005695,0.004757 ,0.007294,-0.015744,-0.016043,0.002086,0.003927,0.007668,-0.001376,-0.006613,0.00643,0.005546,0.00012,0.00467

I14688600-400 BCE Çinamak Kukës R1b-L51 ,0.122929,0.161469,0.02489,-0.028101,0.028005,-0.015618,0.004935,0.001846,0.000409,0.019499,-0.000974,0.01139,-0.016799,-0.004266,-0.006786,-0.016441,-0.009518,0.004054,0.005028,-0.007253,-0.013601,0.009398,-0.005176,0.011086,-0.007065


I14690 1700-400 BCE Çinamak Kukës R1b-CTS1450 ,0.125205,0.149283,0.034318,-0.00646,0.029544,-0.005857,-0.001175,0.004846,-0.00225,0.019681,0.001461,0.002698,-0.020069,-0.006468,-0.003122,0.002121,0.001825,0.003167,0.002011,-0.002501,-0.007861,0.003462,0.005423,-0.004217,-0.005269


I16251 500-50 BCE Çinamak Kukës R1b-M269 ,0.124067,0.144205,0.018102,-0.019703,0.025851,-0.003347,0.002115,0.008077,0.000205,0.022233,-0.000974,0.005095,-0.017096,-0.017753,-0.013301,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.003294,0.010182,-0.013006,-0.000125,0.005441,-0.007148,-0.001687,-0.004431


I16253 658-403 BCE Çinamak Kukës J2b-Y21878,0.130897,0.156392,0.034318,-0.010982,0.035083,-0.000279,0.002115,0.001846,0.0045,0.029158,0.00893 1,0.015436,-0.024083,-0.001927,-0.012893,0.000796,0.012647,0.008361,0.011816,-0.009505,-0.011355,-0.002349,-0.003944,0.008917,-0.007185


I16254 600-400 BCE Çinamak Kukës J2b-Z622,0.120652,0.157407,0.039598,-0.006137,0.031698,-0.011992,0.00705,-0.014076,-0.011044,0.033896,-0.002761,0.001349,-0.018137,-0.005918,-0.010586,-0.007558,0.021774,0.00076,-0.009176,-0.013256,-0.006988,-0.003215,-0.010846,0.01446,-0.008382


I14689 2663-2472 BCE Çinamak Kukës R1b-M269,0.121791,0.117801,0.034695,0.045866,-0.006463,0.014781,0.009165,-0.000923,-0.027815,-0.01549,-0.003085,0,-0.008771,0.005367,0.013572,-0.011933,-0.012778,0.004181,0.006536,-0.01013,-0.003743,-0.005935,0.017008,0.013014,-0.011496


I8471 1880-1695 BCE Shkrel Malësi e Madhe J2b-Z59,0.124067,0.144205,0.017725,0.000323,0.03416,-0.019801,0.00564,-0.012461,0.011658,0.034078,0.003248,0.004346,-0.005352,-0.022432,-0.008822,0.004243,0.026989,-0.007475,0.001885,0.006128,-0.000873,0.006059,0.007765,0.010724,0.008143


I13834 1402-1439 CE Barç Korçë R1b-PF7563,0.12862,0.145221,0.01961,-0.01292,0.012925,-0.007809,-0.00141,-0.006461,0.002863,0.025878,-0.000325,0.006145,-0.022002,-0.004266,-0.012486,-0.009546,0.003912,0.003421,0.008045,-0.013131,-0.010107,0.006059,-0.004437,-0.000602,-0.004191


I14622 773-885 CE Kënetë Kukës T-FGC47678 ,0.111547,0.15436,0.013953,-0.033592,0.016003,-0.001673,-0.001645,-0.001385,-0.001227,0.016037,0.006008,0.005845,-0.005946,0.00234,-0.013436,-0.013259,0.015255,-0.007728,0.009302,-0.012381,-0.015348,0.006801,-0.005669,-0.00735,-0.005389


I13838 5000-3500 BCE Tren Cave Korçë G-P303,0.122929,0.18178,0.004903,-0.101745,0.04647,-0.049364,-0.001645,-0.002308,0.032519,0.080366,0.012666,0.015286,-0.02438,0.004129,-0.039359,-0.021347,0.002999,-0.00114,0.00993,-0.016133,-0.005615,0.005812,-0.000616,-0.001807,-0.010538


I13840 4313-4051 BCE Tren Cave Korçë G-F2572,0.125205,0.187873,0.003394,-0.101745,0.044008,-0.04518,-0.00517,-0.003692,0.043155,0.081095,0.005034,0.007643,-0.022745,-0.002477,-0.04058,-0.013259,0.012647,0.00228,0.007793,-0.02076,-0.015348,0.006059,-0.005793,0.000482,-0.005269


I14686 1400-1700 CE Bardhoc Kukës I2a-Y4884B,0.114961,0.152329,0.006034,-0.027778,0.024004,-0.007809,-0.00235,0.004846,-0.002863,0.022415,-0.001461,0.013938,-0.011744,0.005367,-0.028773,0.001591,0.013299,0.00114,0.009176,-0.007754,-0.009858,0.008161,0.000739,0.005061,-0.00467


I14687 1400-1700 CE Bardhoc Kukës R1b-CTS1450,0.119514,0.155376,0.002263,-0.020995,0.032006,-0.008925,-0.002585,0.007384,0.004704,0.0277,0.00682,0.003897 ,-0.013231,-0.002752,-0.021851,0.005701,0.027511,0.005448,-0.000251,-0.008504,-0.018467,0.008656,0.006162,0.004579,-0.019639


I15706 1527-1660 CE Pazhok Elbasan R1a-Y817004,0.1161,0.144205,0.018856,-0.013566,0.022773,-0.006693,-0.003995,0.002769,0.004909,0.005832,0.003248,0.001 349,-0.001784,0.009634,-0.014794,-0.001458,-0.000652,0.00152,0.000377,-0.003001,-0.006239,-0.002968,0.001725,-0.004579,-0.001078


I15707 1472-1632 CE Bardhoc Kukës J2b-Z631,0.126344,0.153345,0.020365,-0.026809,0.028928,-0.01506,0.01081,-0.006,0.00225,0.025149,-0.001786,0.005995,-0.019029,-0.004817,-0.019001,-0.000265,0.028554,0.001267,0.011313,-0.004502,-0.017594,0.004699,0.001356,0.00241,0.001796

Formatted.

Continuity looks pretty done and dusted boys.

 

[Archetype0ne]

Album:
https://imgur.com/a/UuBwCBE

 

[1337_]

It was kind of random. In the Bulgarian-Serbian border zone I was reading the histories of various villages. Some had founders, or early settlers with names like Leka, Kole, Joka (Gjoka?), Buzadzhi, Lale-Lalin. So I was simply googling to see if Leka is a common Bulgarian name and this info showed up.

I find it more interesting that a Bulgarian historian thinks there is Albanian toponyms from 10th-11th century between Plodiv and Sofia. I am sure that's not the case at present. Would be interesting to contact Hris and see what these historical toponyms are, were called.

Probably just Albanian migrations to Bulgaria and there was also a Arbanas village there

'Arbanas' : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbanasi_(Veliko_Tarnovo)

Gheg-Tosk split is much older than 10th-11th century. The dialect split is believed to be ancient going back to the period around 400-600 AD.

 

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I'll say this though: Greeks and Albanians are very different in origin (from Bronze Age). During the Iron Age, they started converging closer and closer, until in modern times they became almost indistinguishable.

But, Proto-Illyrians clearly have a very different origin than Proto-Greeks, so I don't understand this whole "Graeco-Albanian" thing.

 

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Where you retard, show it where. There is no edit you moron.

Seriously, can a mod ban this guy? He literally makes 0 good points and is just swearing at people.

 

[Johane Derite]

Leka (Paulician leader)


Leka (Lekas in Skylitzes Continuatus) was a Paulician leader in the 11th century Byzantine Balkans in the territory of contemporary Bulgaria.
He is mentioned in the History of Michael Attaleiates and in Skylitzes Continuatus partly based on information from Attaleiates. Lekas was a member of the Paulician Christian sect. He lived in Philippopolis (Plovdiv) and was married to a Pecheneg woman.^[1] The Pechenegs north of the Danube in the 11th century had been influenced by Paulician ideas. In alliance with them and the Paulician leader Dobromir (Dobromiros in Skylitzes Continuatus) he launched a revolt in the eastern Balkans in 1078-79 in an attempt to become an independent ruler. In the revolt he killed Michael, bishop of Serdica (Sofia). Dobromir expanded in the region of Mesembria (coastal Bulgaria).^[2] As the new Emperor Nikephoros III Botaneiates organized an army to send against them, they accepted the rule of the emperor and were given many gifts and privileges.
The mention of the Paulician Leka is the first mention of the Albanian name Leka and indicates that this individual may have been an Albanian.^[2] As such, it is the first reference of a medieval Albanian by name by the same author (Attaleiates) who mentions medieval Albanians for the first time in Byzantine literature. The attestation of a Paulician Albanian suggests that Paulicians had become popular among Albanian groups. Toponymy between Sofia and Plovdiv in the 10th and 11th centuries indicates that (Proto-)Albanian populations had migrated from their native lands to the eastern Balkans before the era of Leka.^[3] The next mention of the name Leka is three centuries later in the names of the brothers Leka (ancestor of Lekë Dukagjini) and Pal Dukagjini who held the city of Lezha.^[4]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leka_(Paulician_leader)#cite_note-FOOTNOTESaldzhiev2019668-3

https://czasopisma.uni.lodz.pl/sceranea/article/view/6744/6334




Hmmmmmmmmm
Hristo's conclusion is backward, because Albanian autochonous cannot be questioned, he thinks an early group of Albanians migrated to western Bulgaria.

One of the oldest documented instances of an Albanian name comes from the 11th century Paulician leader "Leka" (Λέκας) in Bulgaria.


Saldzhiev speculates that there may have been a proto-Albanian population in this mountainous region, referring also to the oikonym "Shtipon" that appears in a mountain village, and suggests Proto-Albanian mediation into Old Slavic.


He assumes that Proto-Albanians must have migrated to this region at some point, but what if there was no migration and there was simply a proto-Albanian substrate in this region?

 

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Albanians are descended from Native Illyrians and Dacian or Thracian newcomers.
A good chunk of R1b is also of East Balkanic origin.

How many of the Illyrian R1b's are Z2103?

The way Y-DNA works, is large populations carry a lot of different clades, until one becomes popular. There is no "East Balkanic R1b".

Yamna had M269, L51, and Z2103. In some populations L51 gets more popular, in some Z2103 more popular, and in some rare ones M269 basal. The popularity later on of clades, is by no means determinative of ancestry.

Look at Illyrians. Some are Z638. Some are not. They originally carried a bunch of clades. In the southern parts Z638 became more popular, in the north more basal clades. They all share a common origin though.

 

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One of the oldest documented instances of an Albanian name comes from the 11th century Paulician leader "Leka" (Λέκας) in Bulgaria.


Saldzhiev speculates that there may have been a proto-Albanian population in this mountainous region, referring also to the oikonym "Shtipon" that appears in a mountain village, and suggests Proto-Albanian mediation into Old Slavic.


He assumes that Proto-Albanians must have migrated to this region at some point, but what if there was no migration and there was simply a proto-Albanian substrate in this region?

This guy making up fake quotes that aren't in the book he's quoting again

 

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I wish there were some samples from the Albanoi in Illyria, but these are close enough geographically. The author's papers are outright admitting from the Middle Bronze Age, there has been no major shifts in DNA in Albanians (obviously some Roman Imperial/Slavic minor admixtures).

Given Messapic links, this paper showing Illyrian-Albanian continuity, Albanoi being outright Illyrian, anyone denying Illyrian-Albanian continuity at this point is just a brain dead troll. Let Hawk and co. make up fake theories, because he can't accept that EV-13 might have gone from 15% to 30% over thousands of years, when it happened in Greeks too. Greeks are "Thracians" too at this point.

 

[1337_]

Yeah, we probably came from the Albanoi or some related Illyrian tribe. Some of them probably lived in Dardania during Roman period after Roman-Illyrian wars together with Vlachs or from 900 AD and on wards during the Bulgarian Empire they spread East wards.

 

[Johane Derite]

One of the oldest documented instances of an Albanian name comes from the 11th century Paulician leader "Leka" (Λέκας) in Bulgaria.


Saldzhiev speculates that there may have been a proto-Albanian population in this mountainous region, referring also to the oikonym "Shtipon" that appears in a mountain village, and suggests Proto-Albanian mediation into Old Slavic.


He assumes that Proto-Albanians must have migrated to this region at some point, but what if there was no migration and there was simply a proto-Albanian substrate in this region?

The chronology that would be required for Albanian mediation of a toponym into Slavic (as is in the case of Shtip) necessitates that the proto-Albanian population had to have been there before the Slavic one, so this Shtipon mountain village in between Sofia and Plovdiv must have had a proto-Albanian population before the Slavs were there.

 

[1337_]

The name is also found in Romania of people with Albanian origin such as Leca of Catun who was a Vlach figure

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leka_(name)

I googled Stipon Mountain and found nothing. Could of been taken from somewhere else.

 

[torzio]

The name is also found in Romania of people with Albanian origin such as Leca of Catun who was a Vlach figure

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leka_(name)

I googled Stipon Mountain and found nothing. Could of been taken from somewhere else.

is he meaning Stipon....a fortress built by roman emperor Trajan in modern Bulgaria ?

 

[td120]

I guess that's what he was meaning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihtiman
...the town was called Stipon and Stipone (Стипон ; Стипоне) ,the name was changed during the Ottoman times.
The fortress in the so called Gate of Trajan/Βασιλική πύλη/ (16km SE) was named after the Roman military station , the Greeks called it Stenos , the Bulgarians - Shtipon . It has a very interesting form btw.

..ahem... Щипонь

Bryansk Oblast

Russia

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[PaleoRevenge]

The name is also found in Romania of people with Albanian origin such as Leca of Catun who was a Vlach figure

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leka_(name)

I googled Stipon Mountain and found nothing. Could of been taken from somewhere else.

From the wikiepedia page:

Few details exist about Leca's early life, beyond his belonging to the boyar aristocracy. He was an Albanian and it is known that he had at least one brother, Comis Toma of Pătroaia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leca_of_Cătun

 

[PaleoRevenge]

Quotes from various Bulgarian settlments near the Serbian border:

Kurban were made: On the Leather Cross - on Spasovday - the Leathers (Gala, Stamen, Jovan, Leka Radenkov) on the cross on grandfather Leka's property next to Lukarete on Ivanovday - the Likins on the cross on grandfather Leka's property next to the well in Rosulya on St. Troitsa – The Gaginites (Novko, Zarko) on the cross in the lukar on Petrovden – Cintsarete

https://bg-m-wikipedia-org.translat...tr_sl=bg&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

In a register from the middle of the 16th century , it is mentioned that the village of Barle had 21 households, three unmarried residents and three widows, and its income amounted to 2067 aktas . ^[2] In the Dzhelepkeshan register from 1576 , the village was entered as Berla , with two Dzhelepkeshans - Jure Stepan with 40 sheep and Petre Lalin with 30 sheep. ^[3] In the register of Voynushki fathers from 1606 , three fathers from Burle are mentioned - of Torne Petko, of Lale, son of Petko, and one blank. ^[4] .

https://bg-m-wikipedia-org.translat...tr_sl=bg&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

The church was built solely with the labor and assistance of the people of Gaber. Everyone has contributed to the good cause. Here are the names of some of them: grandfather Kole Gigov - traveled all over Bulgaria to collect aid; Mihail Manov, Alexi Radenkov and Arso Antov - mayors of the village; Milosh Gyorev and many other people from all families in the village and surrounding villages - helped with labor and money.

https://bg-m-wikipedia-org.translat...tr_sl=bg&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

The hamlet is formed by 14 smaller hamlets, the largest of which is "Borovitsa" (inhabited by the Rizovi (old-timers), Kole Hristovi (from the village of Lisets ), Velkovi (old-timers), Baba Nikolinini, Baba Altonini (and the two from the village of Rezhintsi ), Manguski, Kostadin Hristovi (from the village of Dukat ). The remaining hamlets are: "Abikushin dol" (from the Venkovi, Anastasovi and Bezhulski families-old settlers), " Trenchova mahala (Lenishte) ", "Ramnitsa" ( from one family from the village of Cerovitsa ), "Karadzina ornitsa" (family of Stoilkovi from the village of Lomnica ), "Yovkova" (by Orlova chuka peak), "Mishovitsa" (family of Baba Ilinkini and Tsekovtsi from Kamenitsa), "Panichartsi" (family of Niklintsi from the village of Bistrica), "Loza" (5 genera: Karadatsi from the village of Belut , Mitovtsi, Lazovi, Petrevtsi and Anjakertsi), "Lipitsa" (janachkovi and Gavazovi genera and one Gypsy genera ), "Blaguno" (Atanasovi (Gerovi) and Dyado Ilievi genera (both are old settlers), "Valyavitsi" (also Dyado Iliintsi) - old settlers, "Drenye" ​​(Dyado Atanasovi) - old settlers and "Sinov dol" (from the Dyado Iliintsi family).

https://bg-m-wikipedia-org.translat...tr_sl=bg&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

According to local legend, it was founded by four people - Marko Buzadzi, Mita Vuča, Joka Shỳkar and grandfather Vuko. As the soil is infertile, the traditional livelihood of the locals is construction. <sup>[2]

https://bg-m-wikipedia-org.translat...tr_sl=bg&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc</sup>

Kole Gigov, any relation to this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqc-JDYS54

 

[td120]

Лека/Леко (Leka,Leko) when in Bulgaria is usually diminutive from Alexi or Aleko.


Look yourself in the texts you quoted " Alexi Radenkov"---> "Leka Radenkov" , simple as that.


"-in" in the Bulgarian family names pertain to the village or the family the person stems from (for example Kole Mitrin can be Kole/Nikola of the Mitrevi family= Kole Mitrev...or Kole, son of Mitra (Dimitra), as sometimes the young widow's name would stick instead the father's. Same with Petre Lalin --->of Lalevi...or "the son of Lala". Both Lalyo(m.) and Lala(f.) are variants/diminutives of the Biblical name Lazar. Sometimes Lala can be a form of Zlata but that is rare).


There are several Gigov families and they probably stem from the Western Outlands and Macedonia, one of them is the author Nikola Gigov from


https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Вучи_дел

Now Belut is an interesting case...the others are plain no go.

 

[Johane Derite]

The most surprising thing I did not expect was this relative absence of Z2103 from the core j2b-l283 area, if this actually holds up to be the case then the ramifications are huge.

 

[Johane Derite]

It also seems to validate Matzinger's, Schumacher's, etc, arguments. They really do seem to have picked up on a valid linguistic signal with regard to East Alpine Block, Albanian and Illyrian non-congruence, etc.