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qh777 said:
Here's what I get with your 3 selected populations:

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Same model with Iran_N:

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The addition of Iran neolithic improves the fit for me. I'm curious to see if it improves yours too.

I'd prefer using Anatolians from Turkey itself rather than Greece if the goal is to create a Steppe, ANF, WHG model.
Try Iran Ganj Dareh instead along with the Latvia LN corded ware to be a perfect comparison to my results.
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I kept getting an unrealistic steppe percentage with Barcin ANF, so I switched over to Greek ANF. It was something like 51% steppe.
 
qh777 said:
Here's what I get with your 3 selected populations:

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Same model with Iran_N:

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The addition of Iran neolithic improves the fit for me. I'm curious to see if it improves yours too.

I'd prefer using Anatolians from Turkey itself rather than Greece if the goal is to create a Steppe, ANF, WHG model.
Try Iran Ganj Dareh instead along with the Latvia LN corded ware to be a perfect comparison to my results.
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Oh, also, my Z-Score fails Iran_GanjDarej_N.AG. Z-Score is a measure of how statistically significant an admixture source is.

Z < 3 = you don’t have that source.
 
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thunorr said:
Oh, also, my Z-Score fails Iran_GanjDarej_N.AG. Z-Score is a measure of how statistically significant an admixture source is.

Z < 3 = you don’t have that source.
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You bring up a good point. I'll look into it

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Scotland Early Iron Age + Egyptian Third Intermediate Period

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Scotland Early Iron Age + Greece Delphi Iron Age



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qh777 said:
Scotland Early Iron Age + Egyptian Third Intermediate Period

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Scotland Early Iron Age + Greece Delphi Iron Age



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Some weird models. I’ve been trying out an Iron Age split for myself:
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The best run so far. I forgot to include the P-value, and unfortunately lost the rights to this model.
 
thunorr said:
Some weird models. I’ve been trying out an Iron Age split for myself:
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The best run so far. I forgot to include the P-value, and unfortunately lost the rights to this model.
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With the P-Value included. Managed to recover the original screenshot. IMG_1607.jpeg
 
Scotland Early Iron Age + Egyptian Third Intermediate Period

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Scotland Early Iron Age + Greece Delphi Iron Age



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thunorr said:
With the P-Value included. Managed to recover the original screenshot. View attachment 18067
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I haven’t found a passing 3 way Iron Age model for myself in qpAdm. I’m testing with qpAdm for the near east admix I get with other admixture models in 2 way and 3 way from g25, illustrativeDNA, and from mixed mode 2 way oracle from Eurogenes k13 and Dodecadk12b. I’m still testing/experimenting but I think the near east admix is a real part of my genetic makeup. I don’t believe it’s solely from the Neolithic. I believe it’s multilayered and not recent( within the last 500) years. Likely sources would be near east gene flow to the west Mediterranean during the Hellenistic period- Roman period then movement from the Mediterranean to northwest Europe during Roman era.
 
This model rejects Anatolia_N

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ChatGPT approves:
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Has anyone found the genomes for : Egyptian_Old_Kingdom_Period_Gizeh:I6409, Egyptian_Old_Middle_Kingdom_Period_Dahshur:I10020,

ChatGPT says these samples come from the Scheunemann et al 2017 study. I can't find them.

There was another study, Morez et al 2023, and the sample from the Old Kingdom was called NUE001
I can't find this one either.
 
try this one out
target = '****'
left= c('Greece_NeaNikomedeia_EN.SG','CHG/IranN','Russia_YuzhniyOleniyOstrov_Mesolithic.AG','Luxembourg_Mesolithic.DG','Morocco_EN.WGC.SG')
right = c('Ethiopia_4500BP.DG','Russia_MA1_UP.SG','Morocco_Iberomaurusian.AG','Turkey_Central_Pinarbasi_Epipaleolithic.AG','Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG','Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.WGC.SG','Israel_Natufian.AG','Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG','Switzerland_Bichon_Epipaleolithic.SG')

replace georgia_satsurblia and and iran_ganjdareh_n_I1954 with CHG/IranN
 
qh777 said:
Why are you being so modest for? haha. This model is excellent in my opinion :)
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I don’t really know. I’m still working on it - I want to get the standard error down to sub-7%. I’m fairly close, Germanic standard error is at 7.23% and the continental Celtic standard error is at 7.47%
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thunorr said:
I don’t really know. I’m still working on it - I want to get the standard error down to sub-7%. I’m fairly close, Germanic standard error is at 7.23% and the continental Celtic standard error is at 7.47%View attachment 18101
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I’ve finally made a model that passes by my criteria:
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THE GIANT RIGHTS LIST:
Mbuti.DG,ANE2,Czechia_EBA_CordedWare.AG,Czechia_EBA_Unetice.AG,Sweden_IA_2.SG,England_BellBeaker.AG,Estonia_BA.SG,Czechia_LBA_Knoviz.AG,Norway_IA.SG,Bulgaria_Dzhulyunitsa_EBA.DG,Bulgaria_EIA.AG,England_MIA_LIA.AG,Germany_BellBeaker.SG,Italy_PianSultano_BA.SG,Sweden_central_Late_Viking.SG,Sweden_south_Pre_Viking.SG,Denmark_SouthScandinavia_EBA.SG,Lebanon_MBA.SG,Croatia_Jagodnjak_MBA.SG,Poland_EBA_Unetice.SG,Gotland_Pre_Viking.SG,Scotland_Orkney_MBA.SG,Russia_Transbaikal_Mesolithic.SG,Latvia_BA.AG,Finland_Levanluhta.AG,Mongolia_North_N.AG,Netherlands_LBA.AG,France_HautsDeFrance_IA2.SG,France_Occitanie_IA2.SG,Italy_Tuscany_Siena_Etruscan.AG,Italy_Imperial.SG,Poland_Kowalewko_Wielbark_IA.SG,Sweden_Viking.SG,Poland_Weklice_WielbarkCulture_Roman.SG,Sweden_IA.SG,Sweden_LN_EBA.SG,England_IA_ERoman.SG,Ethiopia_4500BP.SG,Netherlands_LIA.AG,Netherlands_MIA_LIA.AG,Scotland_LBA.AG,Denmark_BA.SG,Austria_IA_LaTene.AG,Czechia_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt.AG,Italy_Sardinia_N.AG,France_GrandEst_MN.SG
 
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baeticvs said:
try this one out
target = '****'
left= c('Greece_NeaNikomedeia_EN.SG','CHG/IranN','Russia_YuzhniyOleniyOstrov_Mesolithic.AG','Luxembourg_Mesolithic.DG','Morocco_EN.WGC.SG')
right = c('Ethiopia_4500BP.DG','Russia_MA1_UP.SG','Morocco_Iberomaurusian.AG','Turkey_Central_Pinarbasi_Epipaleolithic.AG','Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG','Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.WGC.SG','Israel_Natufian.AG','Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG','Switzerland_Bichon_Epipaleolithic.SG')

replace georgia_satsurblia and and iran_ganjdareh_n_I1954 with CHG/IranN
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It doesn't like Morrocco EN for me:

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With your suggested right populations, I had tested with Sweden IA 2 + Egy TIP to see what the results would be:

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A different run with different right populations:

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qh777 said:
It doesn't like Morrocco EN for me:

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With your suggested right populations, I had tested with Sweden IA 2 + Egy TIP to see what the results would be:

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A different run with different right populations:

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Try it with a three-way model between Denmark_IA.SG, Scotland_IA.AG, and Czechia_IA_Hallstatt.SG

Denmark_IA.SG only has VK521 and VK532 in it.
 
Another Steppe, ANF, WHG model. This time the ANF is one that has higher Natufian admixture

My results:

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Modeled with Turkey_N. Not sure in turn what the Natufian admix is for Turkey_N

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