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Admixtools My qpAdm Results Please Share Yours!

Model with just English:

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Rights: Mbuti.DG,Scottish.HO,BedouinA.DG,Lebanese.HO


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On a side note this is what the results look like when just Scottish or French are used:

Scottish
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Rights: Mbuti.DG,English.HO,BedouinA.DG,Lebanese.HO

French
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Rights: Mbuti.DG,Scottish.HO,BedouinA.DG,Lebanese.HO
 
qh777 said:
One good test would be for you to model yourself with English + Saudi with Mbuti.DG,Scottish.HO,BedouinA.DG,Lebanese.HO as the same right pops that were used in my model. I want to see what your results are. I'm thinking you have relatively similar ancestry to me. If you try it and the admix is smaller with higher standard errors, lower p-values, lower admixture assignments, or out right model failure, then it's more evidence in my case.
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Since I don’t have my file merged with human origins, so whenever I feel like it, I’ll run myself as English + BedouinB with
Mbuti.DG,Scottish_Argyll.DG,BedouinA.DG,Palestinian.DG as rights.
 
This is a test to see if there is any SSA admixture present in my genome:

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rights: Mbuti.DG,English.HO

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rights: Mbuti.DG,Scottish.HO

No statistical evidence based on these results.
 

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qh777 said:
Do you have any French/Belgian ancestry like me?

Not sure if you noticed, but qpAdm assigns a higher p-value for Scottish compared to English when ran alone for myself.


Here's that failed model where I scored negative ANF:

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I don't (not significant enough to give me MENA, I am technically 0.1% French.), results show that I pass better without any sort of given MENA group anyways.
 
thunorr said:
I don't (not significant enough to give me MENA, I am technically 0.1% French.), results show that I pass better without any sort of given MENA group anyways.
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Your results seem to add weight to what I have been seeing in mine.
 
thunorr said:
I don't (not significant enough to give me MENA, I am technically 0.1% French.), results show that I pass better without any sort of given MENA group anyways.
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I do have Southwest German though, which is Belgian-like. I believe that the MENA is being read as a more extreme form of a southern shift, if that makes sense.
 
I have yet to see any other northwest Euro try 2- way with Near East. In my case I think it's a combination of inheriting a bit more Anatolian Neolithic Farmer, Greek/Roman, and possibly Medieval era Near East ancestry. I would likely conclude that it's just extra ANF if my Y-Haplogroup was something like R1b, I etc. It's not. It's from the Mediterranean and Near East.

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IllustrativeDNA just released qpAdm on their website. It's super user friendly. The one big issue I have is for some reason I can't use my merged DNA file. I'll share some results that I have done with my MyHeritage DNA file.

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pat wt dof chisq p f4rank Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya.AG Turkey_Central_Catalhoyuk_N.SG Luxembourg_Mesolithic.DG_Loschbour.DG feasible best dofdiff chisqdiff p_nested
000 0 11 4.866129917986197 0.9374759112717503 2 0.44427443972017017 0.4109106704024678 0.14481488987736207 TRUE NA NA NA NA
001 1 12 22.56617198543811 0.03164309064139399 1 0.4636335952541724 0.5363664047458276 NA TRUE TRUE 0 -128.67045269679804 1
010 1 12 151.23662468223614 3.181448605685366e-26 1 0.8518076009691895 NA 0.14819239903081052 TRUE TRUE 0 128.04024231211946 0
100 1 12 23.196382370116694 0.026104235871953096 1 NA 0.7937460664741767 0.20625393352582339 TRUE TRUE NA NA NA
011 2 13 258.8652171497984 9.201495381431885e-48 0 1 NA NA TRUE NA NA NA NA
101 2 13 35.00377467190446 8.455469917767836e-4 0 NA 1 NA TRUE NA NA NA NA
110 2 13 1062.7549585939366 5.763691654010331e-219 0 NA NA 1 TRUE NA NA NA NA

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Right Populations used in the models:

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I have been spending quite a lot of time with this. I have a combination that allows me to separate all the West Eurasian (EHG, AHG, Natufian, WHG, CHG, Zagros Neolithic) components in my ancestry:

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dof=9
chi-squared= 11.44


References:

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More models to come!
 
i highly doubt you have any natufian . let alone 8%
 
Power said:
i highly doubt you have any natufian . let alone 8%
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If some of it does not come from Roman and Greek period interactions, then it's from ANF.

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This model works because Corded Ware has ANF and so does Jordan_PPNB. Jordan_PPNB is around 60/40 Natufian/Anatolian. Sometimes modeled with some Iran_N.

References:

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Did another Steppe, ANF, WHG model with a modified list of references from Genarchivist. The ANF is an individual Bar25.

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I modeled Bar25's admixture as well:

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Reference populations:

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Iran_N just acts as proxy for CIHG admixture in the ANF cluster
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maybe this will be a stupid question but just wondering : how can Barcin_N have 8% Iran_N when they both are neolithic populations
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thunorr said:
Iran_N just acts as proxy for CIHG admixture in the ANF cluster
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what does CIHG mean ? Caucasus and Iranan Hunter Gatherers ?
 
Power said:
i highly doubt you have any natufian . let alone 8%
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Check this study out. It basically reveals there is some affinity with Pinarbasi (AHG) and the Levant. And then later neolithic Anatolians picked up more Levant ancestry.

www.nature.com

Late Pleistocene human genome suggests a local origin for the first farmers of central Anatolia - Nature Communications

Central Anatolia harbored some of the earliest farming societies outside the Fertile Crescent of the Near East. Here, the authors report and analyze genome-wide data from a 15,000-year-old Anatolian hunter-gatherer and from seven Anatolian and Levantine early farmers, and suggest high genetic...
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"We find an adequate two-way admixture model (χ2p = 0.158), in which AHG derives around half of his ancestry from a Neolithic Levantine-related gene pool (48.0 ± 4.5%; estimate ± 1 SE) and the rest from the WHG-related one (Supplementary Tables 4, 5). While these results do not suggest that the AHG gene pool originated as a mixture of Levant_N and WHG, both of which lived millennia later than AHG, it still robustly supports that AHG is genetically intermediate between WHG and Levant_N. This cannot be explained without gene flow between the ancestral gene pools of those three groups. This supports a late Pleistocene presence of both Near-Eastern and European hunter-gatherer-related ancestries in central Anatolia. Notably, this genetic link with the Levant pre-dates the advent of farming in this region by at least five millennia."
 
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