Angela
yes, Cillian Murphy is another example
http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article11256820.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/JS88492176.jpg
it's interesting as to me it looks kinda half-northern and half southern but not averaged out - more like elements plucked randomly from one or the other...
Tomenable
The recent paper about the UK said lighter skin had been positively selected for.
If so it might be the case that x% of pigmentation genes arrived in different parts of Europe and in some places (more northerly) they were selected for and became 2x% and in other places (more...
I think the depigmentation genes came from both the north and the EEF with (imo) the EEF originally getting it from the north before they expanded into Europe (via a CHG-like intermediary population).
It's the WHG who don't seem to have had it - apart from eyes - something i think you can still...
SLC24A5 is the one that is very widespread - even pushing into India and Africa - so presumably it has a beneficial effect in addition to the high latitude benefit (whatever it is)
https://westhunt.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/slc24a5.jpg
whereas SLC45A2 is more restricted and therefore maybe...
Personally I think a lot of the J will turn out to have come as farmers from somewhere near the Caspian and moved into both SE Europe and the middle east. The Phoenicians may have added another layer on top of that later but i think the bulk of it came earlier.
I tend to agree with the stelae map linked by Angela although I wonder if there were three routes to the west from the original source
1) maritime to iberia
2) danubian to rhine mouth
3) north of the carpathians to the baltic
the adna in each case may vary as a result of mixing with different...
@holderlin
Artisans from the Kargaly copper field looking for sources of copper elsewhere imo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargaly
I used to think it was the other way round - south Caucasus to steppe - but the DNA seems to say no.
I'd say the first wave was connected to metallurgy...
My bold.
Something that just struck me reading this is what if Neanderthal DNA didn't drop because it sucked (or because of problems related to birth). What if there were just a lot fewer of them to start with?
For example four grand parents
AMH + AMH
AMH + AMH
AMH + Neanderthal
Neanderthal +...
@Maciamo
The model i have in my head is multiple farmer groups in the region expanding out from their start point until they bump into each other and with none stronger than the others they create an equilibrium - so in this interior regions crops and animals diffuse across the borders by...
It's got quite confusing recently but I think the current state of play is:
EEF does mean that however currently it appears there may have been more than one source of farmers and what were originally thought of as the singular EEF are now more often referred to as ENF (for near eastern) and...
There were (are?) Khoisan-like people in Namibia IIRC so one possibility is slaves taken from there combined with slaves taken from Europe.
Another is some isolated group of Khoisan-like people hidden in the desert somewhere taken as slaves and combined with slaves raided from Europe.
I don't...
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