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These clades split around 2400 BC, or 1000-2000 years before Urnfield. You need a 3000-3500 year old clade with a diverse cluster concentrated in this area. Most of the results you mentioned are scattered U152 who could more recent arrivals from further west. No way to know without NGS or aDNA...

It could very easily be just a bottleneck. Any evidence of this? As far as I know, the person who claimed it to be E-V13 has not provided the SNP calls.

Very interesting, I am looking forward to this paper being published. Do you know if any more Y-DNA results were announced?

You know this is largely a reflection of clan lineage domination and expansion in the last 500-800 years. Greek and Bulgarian E-V13 obviously would not be affected by this. That is not how diversity works in relation to historical presence btw.

Yes, as I mentioned there is an IE connection, but we were talking about Greece and Catacomb culture. It has not been found in aDNA from either one so far. Just because because it is an IE line currently present in Greece does not make it Catacomb or proto-Greek. Could be, but you need either...

When you make claims, the burden of proof is with you. I hoped you had some. Anyway, I have not looked at possible modern Greek KMS67 in studies, but that one SNP-confirmed result forms a subclade with a Swiss person, most likely tmrca 2000-3000 ybp. KMS67 is also present all over Europe and...

Is there any evidence for this at all?

Looking forward to that one being on YFull. I believe it will be R-BY147912-.

I know. They specifically mention avoiding Arvanites in the sample: "During the sample collection, attention was given to this issue: individuals who self-reported as Arvanite were excluded from the analysis." Why would there be any foul play?

One reason may be that the authors avoided people of Arvanite ancestry whenever it was possible. Same thing goes for Euboea.

I said "history of Albanian populations", which inludes Arvanites, but also other regions. Macedonia and its western regions had many different ethnic groups until the early 20th century, including Albanians (ex: in Loechovo, Drosopigi/Belkameni, Flampouro/Nevogan, etc.). It is actually not...

Certain. It peaks in areas with a history of Albanian populations: Peloponnese, Attica, West Macedonia, etc. Maybe, but you have to look at how old these clusters are and estimate when and where the mrca lived.

That first picture was produced on MS Paint.

@Demetrios R-M269 shows pretty fluctuations in Greece (btw a large chunk of it is R-BY611). E-V13 is not that evenly spread either. Anyway, I do am not saying we can refute all R-M269 branches as possible proto-Greek Y-DNA lines. My point is, differences in frequency are not very indicative...

An interesting discussion started in the thread dedicated to Minoan and Mycenean origins, so let's continue in a more focused manner here. What can Y-DNA data tell us about affinities between proto-Albanian and proto-Romanian and the regions where their speakers might have lived? There seems to...