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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Yes. This implies that they are not random admixtures, but a distinct profile that existed in the EIA and some of these individuals ended up as merchants, slaves or various workers in foreign towns. The most obvious source to me here is Magna Graecian given the locations. There are likely...
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    Yes, the Celts certainly were not as singular of an entity as many have assumed them to be. I don't disagree with you here. That being said I have qualms about the association of a supposed monoethnic Celtic identity with the Golaseccan/Lepontic peoples on the basis of fragmentary language...
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    More Picene-like than the Etruscans that have been reported on so far, yes. Northern Etruscans in Po valley remain to be seen until this study comes out in full. In my opinion it's very possible Felsina could also be Picene-like or perhaps somewhere between Picene like and the Etruscans of...
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    I think the urban graveyard effect typically reduces genetic variability over time at the exclusion of foreign elements which is what we seem to be seeing with this study and many others in contrast to the cumulative effect theory. Effectively without a substantial colonization to drastically...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    The firmly southern Italian-like outliers for the Piceni and Dauni are rather interesting to note due to their age. From my recollection we also see two of these types of outliers in the Kerkouane study when looking at the IA Etruscans. They do not look Sicani drifted at all like most of the...
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    I agree and have rejected the idea that modern northern Italians derive any significant admixture from these invasions, as well as the idea that they were large enough to dwarf the already large Etruscan/Etruscan related populations living in Po valley. Similar to the Germanic Langobards, the...
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    I've often times thought the same. Based on calculator results it has always seemed to me like steppe ancestry derives from a more northerly Caucasian origin where as the BA/IA Anatolian/Mycenaean/Imperial roman pull of Caucasian ancestry seems entirely or near entirely from Neolithic Armenia...
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    I would presume Gauls of varying types just based off location, but truth be told that's just a guess. There isn't exactly a protohistoric record of this event, but the abstract/thesis seems to suggest archaeological evidence of material exchange between the two groups. That being said the...
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    So in theory they should be at least similar to the more southerly IA Etruscans of Tarquina. It will be interesting to see if this means that there is a direct overlap or if it's a partial overlap, similar to the location of the Picenes.
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    Thanks for posting this thesis, Francesco. Does anyone have access to the full PDF? From the abstract it reads such that the Etruscans of Felsina had a distinct local profile with a couple of C./N. European like outlier samples which seem to have unexpectedly and drastically reduced in number...
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    Immigration Sweden or how to destroy a country through poor immigration policy

    Our Greco-Roman identity is not going anywhere and we are not apologizing for gracing earth with the two greatest civilizations known to man. The nations of Italy and Greece do not exist for the benefit of migrants and I will happily continue to oppose the creed, culture, will and human...
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    Pompei, capsula del tempo dell'Impero Romano: analisi paleogenomica dei resti umani rinvenuti nell'antica città

    I think Hirisplex skin color estimates are often off as well, based off what I've seen in living samples. Results tend to usually be darker than reality.
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    Pompei, capsula del tempo dell'Impero Romano: analisi paleogenomica dei resti umani rinvenuti nell'antica città

    The heterogeneity is probably magnified by the lower status of those who were left behind - probably mostly slaves who could not afford to escape without assistance. The conditions of death and geography are the same as Pompeii so it's not surprising that the results are similar. It will be...
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    Archaic & Pre-Roman Tortora, Calabria

    Skourtanioti et al provided more bronze age Greek samples than every other prior study combined. Not only did it vastly enlighten our understanding of the shifting genetic structure of the bronze age Aegean, but it was a large and real contribution to understanding this thread topic, unlike...
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    Archaic & Pre-Roman Tortora, Calabria

    In the context of Southern Italy, the Greek pull of ancestry from Greece proper is towards the LBA Greek average from Skourtanioti et al. and the C6 cluster from Antonio et al. The C5 cluster is most likely Greco-Anatolian by comparison. I have no idea what you're going on about with your...
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