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But to expand on that: Indo-Iranian, Germanic etc. is not significantly older than Thracian and Illyrian. Like if you would use the same time line for all, this would mean you would have to name them EHG haplogroups vs. Mediterranean haplogroups. For later periods, E-V13, J-L283 etc. were...

E-V13 was for sure present in both Northern Thracians (Geto-Dacians) and Southern Thracians. We already see they were dominated by different branches of E-V13, like typical South Thracian is E-BY5022 and typical North Thracian are the main branches of E-S2979 and E-CTS9320. The borderline...

You differentiated other ethnolinguistic groups as well though and these haplogroups really grew with the respective ethnolinguistic groups, not as much before. Therefore the association is very strong. E-V13 and J-L283 were pretty negligible before growing with these ethnolinguistic groups in...

You should add Daco-Thracian (E-V13) and Illyrian (J-L283) because these two haplogroups are quite specific ethnolinguistically, with only a small minority which might turn out to be not assiociated with this ethnolinguistic groups. Actually these two haplogroups are among the most clearly...

You can check FTDNA https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/E-V13/story and YFull, as well as this map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1R_jpaS0H5UqKinPpJc7b3PWqyCI&ll=49.96389383029528%2C15.458445736197461&z=5 There are new samples about every month by now.

I agree with your conclusions, but one thing: My impression is that the Celtic-like influence which Thracians received comes rather from an old, Bell Beaker and/or Tumulus culture source, not actual Celts. If it would be actual Celtic, the IBD sharing would be all over the place. It is rather a...

In my experience, the macro-region assignment is not too bad, but a lot gets "smoothed away", since ancestry uses an extremely coarse bruch, assigning whole chromosomes. Your macro-region assignment seems to be fine, since you get more than 90 percent Balkan/South Eastern Europe. The finer...

I don't see such a high level of Levantine-related admixture, but what's even more, I don't think more Northern groups had as much. And I think that's not just because the mixed with other groups in the North, but because the South Thracians, especially those coming from South of the Balkan...

Absolutely. We have all the populations which are truly relevant, we have Bodrogkeresztur, Tripolye-Cucuteni and Gumelnita-Pre-Salcuta. When ignoring these strange buk samples, what remains are high EEF Copper Age samples with varying degrees (1-18 %) of WHG admixture in the pre-steppe Late...

I am not as confident about the exact amount of this Near Eastern ancestry, it could be very low. But fact is, that its there in South and East Thracians. Not in the North and West Thracians as much, which still share IBD with South Thracians. Also, we know that Coarse Ware (Brnjica- and...

Yes, I came to the same conclusions. The best currently available models are with Gumelnita samples. The strange thing is, there are some good ones from Oltenia, which give a perfect fit, but there are the strange ones which all have excess WHG/steppe from Gumelnita, Salcuta etc., all from the...

I think its both, because there seems to have been a sizeable Daco-Roman remnant population in the wider area and in those Daco-Romans, assuming the majority was not from a purely Daco-Carpic tribal context in the area, should have the typical "Imperial Roman" admixture and show some Romanised...

That's very possible. Honestly, I even entertained the idea that, as one option out of others, the original Transylvanian groups like Wietenberg were probably MORE EEF than the Kapitan Andreevo/South Thracian samples. If we take the abstract on BA Transylvania literally, that's a distinct...

The most conservative calculation is that E-V13 was about 40 % the least, but likely significantly higher, in the local population (minus Germanics, minus Slavs). If subtracting more speculatively, like removing outliers from other Balkan-Mediterranean regions as well, we get to a total...

I saw that. First samples from a core Dacian territory and E-V13 is dominant! I hope once the data gets published, we will get downstream assignments.

Or simply more testers in public data bases like those of FTDNA and YFull. There are some patterns, already. But Greeks don't just test less often, they also tend to do yDNA testing and especially BigY upgrades even less often than Germans (which means something). Like a regular number for basal...

I also got my update and its interesting and overall correct. They assigned me Germans from Russia, which is not correct in theory, but understandable in practise, because I have many Russian German matches and they come from shared ancestry with those. Relatives of my ancestors moved to Russia...

Germany didn't invade Switzerland...

Concerning Channelled/Fluted/Knobbed Ware, the crucial part is we have three main influences and groups coming into the later Psenichevo area: - Zimnicea-Plovdiv-Cerkovna (derived from Verbicoara-Tei/Fundeni-Govora) - Brnjica (derived from Vatin/Belegis-related groups) - Knobbed Ware (influences...

It was an old test, most likely, so they never went further than that. The result was sensational enough the way it was, so they had no need to dig deeper.