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I know this thread is old and you may never see this. But the genetic differences between North Portuguese and Southern Portuguese is so minimal that phenotype variation would not be this pronounced. The conversation of phenotype differences in Portuguese regions is probably a pointless...

To be fair, I haven't seen a genetic forum that can't be explained like that. Some are just more severe than others. I don't necessarily like anthrogenica, but I don't say anything controversial on there so I don't have to worry about getting banned. I heard their banning system is very...

Well depends on where in the Peninsula. But yes, more like the other northern Spanish and Portuguese-Galician, Castillian, and Cantabrian populations. The repoblacion was a huge event throughout the peninsula. We know now from recent studies that the peninsula is formed in clusters of more...

Target: Luso_scaled Distance: 1.9046% / 0.01904572 45.4 Europe_Southwest 22.8 Europe_Northwest 12.2 Europe_South_Central 8.4 MENA_Berber_Peoples 4.4 Europe_West_Central 2.6 Europe_East_Central 1.8 Africa_Cushitic_Peoples 1.4 Europe_Northeast 1.0...

Oh wow... now even on my phone the site doesn't work. Sad, sad... someone doxing it? Wtf why?

Not sure why but only on my phone can I access Anthrogenica. On my laptop it doesn't work? Yep, and Apricity isn't, and will never be a scientific genetic forum by any stretch. Forum full of insane personalities, and a cesspool of mental illness. Even found myself during COVID turning insane...

Good points. We will have to wait and see for official coordinates to come out and compare time periods between samples. I think no one denies that the moors had some genetic impact on us. But a big question is why Galicia and more northern parts of Portugal (which never were conquered by the...

Hi Angela, It's the samples from the paper that support my *speculation* Here are some examples of simulated k13 results: There are more, and we are waiting for these to be converted to official G25 samples by Davidski and you will see my *speculation* wasn't far off. At this point...

I can now link the study: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.15.491973v1

We have to wait for more samples to really say anything yet. I don't know the PCA you're referring to or what ages of samples are being investigated. But with older Portuguese samples predating the moorish period we'll be able to see...

Yes, that's what they dated it to that when the study came out. But we just got a newer study with new samples showing that same North African % is linked to an even earlier time period, in the Roman era.

No, the shift in Iberia was more intense in the Roman area. It's clear as day because the North African % in west iberia is pretty much exactly the same in the Roman era as it is today, even before the Moorish period had occurred.

It seems like a highly plausible theory. I'll show a picture once I can post images... of the Roman mines concentrated in the western Iberian peninsula

When I talk about Roman DNA I am referring to the Italian-Roman DNA here. Those who plot as south, central, or north Italians from the Roman era. I understand the Roman Empire was a huge place and that many ethnicities are involved with the term "Roman".

Yes, my family is from the southern tip of Portugal so it's always been assumed we'd turn out with elevated roman, moor, and Phoenician ancestry. Although, actually as most genetic nerds know, southern tip, or northern tip is genetically indistinguishable in iberia. In terms of North African...

I saw a video titled "Spain, Portugal have Roman Italian ancestry" and in the video the guy believes we have upwards of 30-40% Roman DNA. His theory is based off of the closeness to a north italian cline on g25 plots, and that our roman is from north italia. But I do not agree. This seems to...

i unfortunately cannot provide links because i have under 20 posts but look up “Stable Population structure in Europe since the Iron Age, despite high mobility” you can find the Portuguese samples somewhere. You will see that Mar_Taforalt (ancient north african) was already present among...

Hey everyone, a recent study discovered burials dating to the Roman era. Most of these samples showed stability in the genomes of western Iberian samples to modern times genealogically. These new Portuguese samples were extracted from Central and South Portugal and may have just proved that...

My uncle is G2a from Portugal. His lineage was associated with a surviving group 4k years ago, the southern bell beakers found in southern Italia, Sicily, and Sardinia. They must have lived in the mountains when they moved out and around to survive.

Romans, and even further back the Anatolian Farmers which is why even distinct genetic south euro groups look very similar at times phenotypically. Portuguese all the way to Greece and even into Turkey etc.