R1b appeared in SW Asia though, and spent a long time there before arriving in Europe. Hg I, on the other hand, never left their comfort zone (Europe), or at most, only went to immediately adjacent areas such as Anatolia and Caucasus. They couldn't bother to cross Gibraltar in 40k years.
I = Physical vigor, larger body size, pragmatism, resistance to cold (both a testament and a consequence of their success in dealing with about 40 thousand European winters);
R1b = dat wit
(and obsession with moving westwards)
Americans have this astonishingly stupid notion of lumping Spaniards and Mexicans (and all Latin Americans) all together, as if they formed one single big race - "Spanish", "Hispanic" or "Latino" - completely ignoring the very different ethnic make-up of these countries.
On the other hand...
That's interesting, a similar phenomenon to the switch from "bellus" to "guerra", in Romance languages. It makes me wonder when these changes occured. Maybe after the 5th/6th centuries Germanic invasions? It seems curious that each of those German tribes would have separately introduced their...
While you are most likely correct with your observations, we must also keep in mind that if we go back far enough, we can find similarities even between Irish and Hindi.
I got a kick out of this little research as well. It corroborates the idea that the Romans conquered their close cousins in Western Europe.. in a way, bringing the big P312 family back together.
The Romans (at least the "authentic" ones, from early Latin tribes) were basically Celts who...
Out of curiosity, I have made a list of (apparent) cognates between modern Italic/Romance languages and modern Celtic languages, using online dictionaries. I purposely chose only "primitive" concepts, for which there would already have been words to express around the time of the Italic-Celtic...
Maciamo, what is your understanding of U5b1? Would it have first pooled in NE Europe during the Paleolithic/Mesolithic and then spread to Western/SW Europe, or the other way around?
It does seem like one of those news made for catching the eye of curious laypersons. But I wonder if they have some of Otzi's STR markers and discovered that 19 out of those 3,700 who got tested have identical markers... which would probably be a coincidence anyway, because plenty of STR...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2453857/Scientists-trace-19-living-relatives-tzi-Iceman-5-300-year-old-body-frozen-Alps.html
Ötzi lives on. :cool2:
Henry IV (G2a?) lived in the 16th century and Louis XVI (G2a?) in the 18th century, while Louis XIII (R1b?), whose three presumed descendants were tested, lived in the 17th. So a non-paternity event would not make too much sense, chronologically. Unless Henry IV was not the real father of Louis...
According to Wikipedia:
"King Louis XVI of France from a genetic test on blood in a cloth purported to have been collected at his beheading and maintained in an ornate gourd decorated with French Revolution themes. Confirmation of this genetic profile requires testing of a known relative. The...
Makes a lot more sense, for a Frankish lineage. Also, having three different test results is far more reliable than some blood-stained cloth dating from the French Revolution, when the entire country was ankle-deep in blood.
...On the other hand, what would be the odds of both the blood on the...
Those "babblings" about "Moors and Goths" are the quintessential Spanish rhetoric, which you would have eventually made in following posts, had I not pre-emptively quoted you. :rolleyes2:
Some people feel the need to believe that the entire world is conspiring against them, in order to feel...
I know that the Arabs/Berbers didn't make a significant genetic impact on Spain. It's not like they replaced the millions of natives who were already there. They were always just a ruling minority, running things from their palaces, sort of like the Normans in England. And just like it's pretty...
"Bash Spain & Spaniards" bandwagon... lol, wtf? I even went out of my way to make a compliment to Spain... but your paranoia only allowed you to see the so-called "international agenda to denigrate Spain".
It is notorious that in any History/Anthropology/Genetics forum, if someone makes a...
Oh dear... another Spaniard getting emotional and ripping his hair off over these supposed "Latin American agendas". Drac, fella, I assure you I have absolutely nothing against (and very little for) Spain. Spain is not a country that Brazilians spend time thinking about, we weren't a Spanish...
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