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So how should we approach tree maps like this?

Why can populations be modeled exactly on older populations? Even if a population stayed genetically isolated, it wouldn’t look the same as it did in the past. I don’t imagine all Eurasian humans (without African admixture) can be modeled as 100% “the first migrants out of Africa.” Is it just...

Regarding what you said about the Semitic languages, I think that’s a viable hypothesis, but I think it’s slightly more likely they originated in the Levant. We had a discussion about this last week if you want to read more about it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I made a post last week about the Semitic languages where I basically took it as a given that Natufians originated the Afroasiatic languages. I gather that this is the consensus on genetics forums, and for good reason in my opinion (Natufians and non-Semitic Afroasiatics carry E, Afroasiatics...

Obviously anyone can give their thoughts about my theory regarding the (genetic) history of the Arabian peninsula I didn’t just mean Stuvanè.

You’re right, the subject is complicated, but it’s also very fascinating.

The example of the Hungarians is an excellent example of the phenomenon I was describing. Thank you for providing that. >Did EHGs superimpose on CHG males by taking females? The tribes of the steppe are born in a somewhat artificial way, on the basis of exchanges and political conveniences...

Do you guys think pre-Arab inhabitants of the Arabian peninsula were close to a 100% Natufian-related? Note: I had before a joke about the Ottomans being the source of J in the Balkans followed by /s, but I think the above is is a better comment to keep the discussion going.

I’ll see if more people have thoughts. If not I’ll update the original post by tomorrow to reflect my thoughts on what I think is the more viable theory. Thanks for your input. Regarding IE and J, I’m still a little bit skeptical. The Yamnaya samples that we have all have R and I to my...

I think the problem with the Sardinians is they had a lot of overlap with the Romans in their Y-DNA. But if we can extrapolate autosomal contributions to cover Y-DNA, I think that would serve as an example. Tell me if you agree with this, and others obviously can weigh in on this. -The issue...

I agree with you. I can’t think of any examples of the scenario I sketched (immigrant population, replaces language, doesn’t replace native Y-DNA) and I think it would’ve been pretty rare to begin with. What are the implications? I think it greatly reduces the likelihood of the Iranian...

Usually if the Y-DNA of a component population doesn’t come to predominate in the resultant admixed population but the language does, it’s a native population, like with the Basques. The component population that spoke the ancestor of modern Basque was native. They passed on the language but not...

I’m assuming you’re getting the 50-50 number from Reich, but isn’t it actually closer to 70 EHG-30 CHG, and CHG didn’t leave Y-DNA, or at least very little. I posted a reply about examples of people who immigrated to a new land and admixed with the local population, didn’t replace their Y-DNA...

Thank you for replying Stuvanè. I’m not aware of any Hittite samples. Is there a paper that published something on them? Regarding the main topic, I appreciate your comments. I think I made a mistake in my original post with the Iranian hypothesis about comparing between the hypothetical...

You know anyone in the community more invested in the topic to see what they think?

Since you think the modified L. hypothesis is true, do you think that Proto-Semitic was spread by a people with a Canaanite-like signature (~50% Levant_N, 50% Iran_ChL), which would imply, for example, that the original speakers of Arabic were closer to the Canaanites than Peninsulars today (who...

Thank you for replying Jovialis. Can I ask you why you tend towards the modified Levantine hypothesis as opposed to the “Iranian” hypothesis?

Thank you for replying Jovialis. Can I ask you why you tend towards the modified Levantine hypothesis as opposed to the “Iranian” hypothesis?

The origin of the Afroasiatic languages is almost a settled question, with the most likely location being in the Levant with the Natufians due to the high degree of presence of haplogroup E among almost all Afroasiatic populations except in the Middle East, and high proportions of Natufian-like...