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    Etruscans=Illyrians=Pelasgi //// tuscans=albanians ?????

    Albanians are very different phenotypically wise from Tuscans\Italians. Tuscans are mainly Atlanto-med, Alpine and a mix Dinarid\alpine\Med and it's very hard to find pure dinarids as you find in most Albanians in Italy. At most Tuscans can be med\dinarid alpine\dinarid or atlanto-med\dinarid...
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    Etruscans=Illyrians=Pelasgi //// tuscans=albanians ?????

    Indeed. Infact to me she is not Tuscan at all. I know Tuscans and she try to portray them as more different as she can for unknown reasons. :useless:
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    Do Italians look more like Spaniards/Portuguese, or Greeks?

    Yes italians have a bigger neolithic component, on the other hand Iberians have more african admixture- even more than Sicilians for the Portuguese and almost the same for Spaniards-, but that doesn't mean you look N.Africans of course but that there is a stronger NorthAfrican phenotypic...
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    Do Italians look more like Spaniards/Portuguese, or Greeks?

    Rofl Galli is Italian it is not that you can find him "occasionally", he reminds me of this actor and also other people realized that. I don't know what is your problem, but Italians don't look nor east med nor west med, they look central med, surely they don't look like Levantines as you like...
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    Do Italians look more like Spaniards/Portuguese, or Greeks?

    I think you have several issues from my point of view. Probably you fell in love with some Greek or Albanian or Eastern European and you like to claim all Italians look albanians or east med in Italy. Almost all the people you post can be found in all Europe, and without comparative pics of...
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    Are we watching the same map? http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/Europegenetics.jpg
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    Infact i spoke about a mix, sure is that Italy is not predominantly med or coarse med as somebody is trying to portray here. As for the alpines darker than meds i have my doubts and it is not corroborated by any study for what i know. Every survey made over Italy speak about a massive presence...
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    Yes. With all the respect to Julia this thread is misleading, every anthropologist would contradict everything said in the first pages. East med phenotype is very rare in Tuscany, the commoner is alpine\dinaric\tall med, meaning even the fairest types of those subraces. Fair eyes and Hair are...
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    Dinaric\alpine\tall med i agree, east med is more common in the South of Italy not in central Italy hence Tuscany. This is a east med: It doesn't seem so common in Tuscany or central Italy to me.
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    Vittoria Puccini and Zeffirelli doen't look celt?:good_job:
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    Mind that Etruscans didn't find an empty Tuscany. There were various pre-etruscan tribes with which they melted. Anyway talking about germanic settlements in Tuscany even Gioacchino Volpe admitted that Tuscany for its position was one of the most settled by Longobards, Goths and Franks.
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    Some Senones came from Marche and settled in South Tuscany, some Bituriges settled around Arezzo instead. Ligures were mostly in North Tuscany but i presume they had strong relationship with Celts from Emilia. Umbrians were Italics, but Italic tribes and Celts were very similar and...
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    Well Emilia too has had etruscan settlements, but i think that Etruscans and neolitich farmers were very different from modern day Levatines. Plus Tuscany was settled by celts(Senones) who came from Marche, then there were Umbrians who were not so dissimilar from other Italic tribes akin to...
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    To be real Emilia and Tuscany look quite similar and if have to make a comparison i have seen more fair eyes in Tuscany than in Emilia. Going with Livi's survey, Tuscany has more light eyed people than Emilia as well. Why do you want to dark wash Tuscany?:thinking: What about Irene Grandi...
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    That girl is alpo\dinaric but the nose is not very convex to my eyes. By the way she has nothing of east med vibe in my opinion. You could see her type in S.France without problems.
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    I know many people from Tuscany and i haven't noticed all those convex noses. I'm from Emilia Romagna, and i work in Pisa, so i see Tuscans every day. Tuscans are mostly Alpo\Dinaric with a fair % of Atlanto\med\cromagnoids. Fair eyes and hair are quite common, norics\depigmented tall...
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    If you say that in Italy there are "eastern med" directly linked to neolitich farmers they should have necessarily convex nose going by your logic.
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    In Italy you have a mix of alpine\med\dinarics, the pure meds and the pure dinaric are few compared to the former.
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    To start with Italy is not mostly med. Second, not necessarily dinaric have convex armenoid nose, just as the meds, be them eastern or western. Third, pigmentation has nothing to do with phenotype, nobody in anthropology divides subraces basing over skin tones. You can be a dark west med and...
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    Genetic of Italy (also taken from Wikipedia)

    However created this thread doesn't know nothing about anthropology and general phenotypes of Italy. Italy is not at all gracile med and med only, but mostly alpine and dinaric\dinaricized meds with a fair amount of Atlanto-Meds as well especially in Ligury, Tuscany, Lombardia and Emilia...
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