Wanderer
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- Y-DNA haplogroup
- J-L283 (z627)
No, Z2507 didnt split from Albanian and Lebanese samples but Z2507 is bigger and older brother clade TMRCA and distribution wise. J2-Z2507 where most of Albanians fall is formed 4400 ybp TMRCA 4400 ybp. J2-Y146400 where Lebanese fall is formed 4400 ybp TMRCA 1950 ybp, together with Albanian from Vlora 3000 ybp, so still lower.
What are haplogroups JYp299 and i2i2, are you disabled or what? IJ split one from another 30 000 years ago, while your clade split from Albanians 3000 years ago, yes you are indeed. Why would you otherwise mention this.
You just want to trǿll and type nonsense dont you? Why dont you go bother someone else instead since everyone told you that you are nuts and you still push with various stupidity.
Albanian sample matches Lebanese samples in timeframe 3000 ybp so 1000 BCE and not 2400 as you are saying here. Please stop lying and acting as monkey.
Look again, i'm giving you this link like 10 times already : https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y146400/
Lebanese samples dont have TMRCA 3000 years to put them into 1000 BCE but only 1950 years which is around 70 AD. They have TMRCA 3000 years with Albanian sample because they are of Illyrian origin.
TMRCA 70 AD fits right into Roman rule of Lebanon, and guess what Romans ruled Spain too....
Illyrian soldiers were known recruits into Roman army, it perfectly explains how Illyrian haplogroup is found in Lebanon and Spain with TMRCA 1950 ybp.
J2-Z2507 formed 2400bc. So? So they are illryian brother clades because they formed before illryians exists? This is my point. They are mnt brother clades. The distribution is very clear. Especially when so many germans and nordics have them
J2-Z2507
All over europe.
-J2-Z2507 mainly in sardinia, ancient samples in the caucus, 1 turkish, a handfull lebanese. 1 albanian that split from lebanese at 1000 BC.
How many of them in Main europe. That 1 albanian sample that split from lebanese? At year 1000 bc?
Even though J2-Z2507 split at 2400 bc
Lol there was no jL283 in albania at 2400 bc.
You were a georgian not an albanian at 3400bc I am not an illyrian subclade rofl
Albanian would be closer to being a proto uratian than an illyrian than at 3400bc.... come on dude.
Proto illlyrians start at earliest 1600 bc. The invasion happens 1200bc
Me and J2-Z2507 would would be brother clades in georgia before J-L283 even stepping foot in europe 5400 years ago.
Incase you cant tell that was sarcasm. We arent brother clades really.
Albanian sample formed 2700bc before
illyrians even existed at a basal j-597 level
It tmrca with basal j-z597 is 3000ybp. 1000bc.
The sardinians and turk sample are probably closer to me.
No and you are reading it wrong
J2-Z2507 tmrca is 4400ybp. To basal j-z597
So obviously that means. J-y14600 was not with J2-Z2507 after 2400bc. Before even proto illyrians existed.
J-y14600 tmrca to basal j-z597 is 3000 ybp...