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Why do we assume that Hitler was intelligent? Wasn't he a terrible student who later in life failed at pretty much everything?
It seems that aside from his IQ, his EQ wasn't that great either until he found likeminded people and his dedication enabled him to accomplish a few things, if you want to call it that, before finding the end he deserved.
(Not only that he deserved, but a cold hearted society unwilling to take a stand against him needed to shake them up)
No?! What is IQ of monkey or a mouse?
What makes monkey not understand IQ test, nurture or nature?I am not sure if your question is meaningless or if you are begging the question (i.e. assuming the answer)...
"...testing IQ of animals is a nonsensical concept..."
What makes monkey not understand IQ test, nurture or nature?
"Evidence of correlation is not evidence of causation." People with higher IQ's get more brainwashing in liberal educational institutions.
The average IQ of vegans is 116. Does eating a vegan diet raise IQ? Or are smart people more likely to become vegans? The later is the answer.
Some very intelligent people have believed in God. http://forums.delphiforums.com/biopsychology/messages/?msg=964.1
Yes. IQs of 200 are rare, but it does happen. There is me, Netanyahu, Sununu (you would be happy to know that he is a redhead of Palestinian descent), Goebbels, Isaac Newton, Leonardo da Vinci, and a host of people who never amounted to anything.
http://onemansblog.com/2007/11/08/the-massive-list-of-genius-people-with-the-highest-iq/
The Highest IQs On Record
- 190 – Sir Isaac Newton (Isaac Newton was a religious fanatic)
- 176 – Emanuel Swedenborg (Founder of the Swedenborgian religion)
- 170 – Martin Luther (The founder of Protestantism( had a higher IQ than Albert Einstein.
- Rabbi Gerald Schroeder is also an astrophysicist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Schroeder
- "Schroeder received his BSc in 1959, his MSc in 1961, and his PhD in nuclear physics and earth and planetary sciences in 1965, from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology(MIT).[2] He worked five years on the staff of the MIT physics department. He was a member of the United States Atomic Energy Commission.[3]"
Very sharp. What makes people different from monkeys, perhaps DNA?
... I think it's a mistake to mix religion and politics.
I think the job of a minister or priest is to help people have meaningful spiritual experiences.
Just a question: is it possible to train the world's smartest goat to become a theoretical physicist? Should we expect a duck to beat Magnus Carlsen at chess, even after countless hours of training by the world's best animal psychologists?Thank you,
now I am sure you are begging the question... again.
But since you didn't get the point yet,
I will make the argument simpler for you.
Testing the 'IQ' of monkeys, octopuses or rain-worms with IQ tests conceived for humans
is equivalent of, say, measuring temperature with a ruler.
You should study more about nonsense correlations and spurious correlations,
if you dont want to get stuck with illusions.
Just a question: is it possible to train the world's smartest goat to become a theoretical physicist? Should we expect a duck to beat Magnus Carlsen at chess, even after countless hours of training by the world's best animal psychologists?
To make it very easy for you, I'd say that they are so stupid that we can't even run IQ test on them. This is because they don't have human DNA, which make our brain of certain size and architecture. Likewise, there are examples of people born with mutations in DNA, which cause brain to underdeveloped, and render IQ test useless.Thank you,
now I am sure you are begging the question... again.
But since you didn't get the point yet,
I will make the argument simpler for you.
Testing the 'IQ' of monkeys, octopuses or rain-worms with IQ tests conceived for humans
is equivalent of, say, measuring temperature with a ruler.
You should study more about nonsense correlations and spurious correlations,
if you dont want to get stuck with illusions.
To make it very easy for you, I'd say that they are so stupid that we can't even run IQ test on them. This is because they don't have human DNA, which make our brain of certain size and architecture. Likewise, there are examples of people born with mutations in DNA, which cause brain to underdeveloped, and render IQ test useless.
If you don't get this point, nothing else I can do. It must be your genetic predisposition.Lol...
Are you sure you got my point, in the first place, to even think you are making things easier for me?
If you don't get this point, nothing else I can do. It must be your genetic predisposition.
PS. Don't start downvoting game with me. Your downvoting carries -1 point, mine -30 points. I suggest you concentrate on giving positive reputation for posts that you like.
Wink means it is a joke.Ad hominem reply coupled with a threat, Mr. Reputation?
Not exact analogies. You can't measure human IQ, because they are not humans! And this is foremost DNA problem.The question is not about the genetic difference between humans and other animals!
but it is about if you can apply such concept (IQ) to other animals and draw conclusions about their intelligence.
Did I mention something about DNA and brain architecture?Testing the 'IQ' of monkeys, octopuses or rain-worms with IQ tests conceived for humans
is equivalent of, say, measuring temperature with a ruler.
No you can't, no matter how long you try. Exactly because of "wrong" DNA. You can try educating and train monkey for 20 years or longer in human languages and math and logical thinking and human culture, and still can't conduct human IQ test. It takes a specialized brain to grasp language and higher logic. This comes with special DNA. But once you have this special brain, you can teach it anything and conduct IQ test. DNA, DNA, DNA before nurture!And assuming you can apply it,
that still does not prove the IQ is highly dependent on genes.
Not exact analogies.
You can't measure human IQ, because they are not humans! And this is foremost DNA problem.
No you can't, no matter how long you try. Exactly because of "wrong" DNA. You can try educating and train monkey for 20 years or longer in human languages and math and logical thinking and human culture, and still can't conduct human IQ test. It takes a specialized brain to grasp language and higher logic.
This comes with special DNA. But once you have this special brain, you can teach it anything and conduct IQ test. DNA, DNA, DNA before nurture!
As long as you can't see that the main difference between species is genetics we can't continue.It does not need to be exact,
as much as hyperboles are never real... but still out there proving the f... point
LMFAO...
Do you remember who wrote this a few posts ago?
"They are not humans."
Again,
Testing the 'IQ' of monkeys, octopuses or rain-worms with IQ tests conceived for humans
is equivalent of, say, measuring temperature with a ruler.
First you need to meditate over the implicit meanings of my analogy,
then you can regret having written the sentence above.
Again,
Testing the 'IQ' of monkeys, octopuses or rain-worms with IQ tests conceived for humans
is equivalent of, say, measuring temperature with a ruler.
First you need to meditate over the implicit meanings of my analogy... once more,
then you can regret having written yet another sentence above.
Lol...
Bravo!
While so many unconclusive studies have been carried out to prove that IQ is highly dependent on genes,
you not only assume it as a true premise, you use it as argument to prove itself...
Really, we don't know that yet? Now I understand your confusion. Perhaps I could suggest few books about brain.Be humble,
nobody knows where intelligence comes from...
Wow, let's stop science. We are not intelligent enough to figure the world out. With such attitude we would have never invented computer and internet for you to discourage others from science.and we are not even intelligent enough to even know how to define it.
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