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Go on the internet and find some papers on IBD analysis. Read the Ralph and Coop paper again. Look at the graphs again. Ralph and Coop are not producing data on the total genetic similarity of people in the Balkans versus people in Poland, for example. You have to use programs like ADMIXTURE, f3 stats and even newer methods for that. Until you understand that you're going to continue to draw wrong conclusions. Unless, of course, that's what you want to do.
In my previous post I asked you not to misinterpret my words, and here it is again:
You said: “total genetic similarity of people in the Balkans versus people in Poland”
1. Who on earth mentioned any “TOTAL genetic similarityof people in the Balkans”. Where and when have I said that?
2. Haven’t I said in the previous post that it is NOT about “people in the Balkans versus people in Poland”. It IS about people in Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia and Slovenia versus people in Poland. It is a BIG difference. If you don't want to understand such a simple thing the whole furher conversation is pointless.
Then go back and read the Kovacevic paper again. Look at the admixture runs for goodness sakes'. You'd have to be blind not to see it. The differences between the people of the Balkans are minimal. There was no complete population replacement in the Balkans. Yes, the Croatians are the most "northern" of the Balkan peoples, if that's so important to you, although you have a lot of variation. However, your closest population looks like the Hungarians, a Central European population with a lot of Germanic influence, and a lot of Neolithic ancestry from the LBK all the way to the MN and LN, not Poles or Ukrainians. Propaganda has really done a number on people from the Balkans.
Don’t you understand that we are not talking about the differences in the means of prehistorical genetic components. We are tracing historical migrations! Again:
1. I am not talking about Balkans as whole. I am talking about Croats (and Slovenains, Serbs, Bosnians). The difference is big.
2. I am not talking about “complete population replacement”, I am talking about high level of shared ancestry between Poles and Croats from the times of Roman Empire. Please check the diagrams (3rd row, 1st column):
http://journals.plos.org/plosbiolog...id=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pbio.1001555.g005
and (images C and E):
http://journals.plos.org/plosbiolog...id=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pbio.1001555.g003
No matter what you were taught or what your ideology leads you to want to believe, Croatians are not ethnic Slavs, although you have ancestry from them.
How on earth can someone get to such conclusion from EHG, WHG and EEF combination?!
Let me cite one respectable member of this forum: "IBD doesn't lie, my friend...at least not when done by people of this caliber...". :grin:
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