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I've read again that the epicardial Avellanar sample snp tested positive for E-V13. If that's correct, could someone post a reliable source for that?
Anyway, the Croatian Cardial samples:
C1a2:V20:6845955G->A; C1a2:V86:6909957G->A; C1:CTS6773:17100606C->T; C1:F3393:23023974C->A; E1b1b1a1b1:CTS3287:14801129A->G; E1b1b1a1b1:CTS5291:16189080T->G; E1b1b1a1b1:CTS5527:16345952A->G; E1b1b1a1b1:CTS7273:17396160C->T; E1b1b1a1b1:L618:15339697T->C; E1b1b1a1b1F2215:8262442A->G; E1b1b1a1b1F2246:22073053G->A; E1b1b1a:CTS8899:18538216C->A; E1b1b1a:L546:17516070C->T; E1b1b1aF2108:7804308C->T; E1b1b1aF2114:8232450C->A; E1b1b1aF2173:21036413C->T; E1b1b1aF2178:21583211C->A; E1b1b1aF2188:22080316G->A; E1b1b1:CTS2216:14221285G->T;
The link with the Cardial Neolithic for this branch of "E" is established, I think.
the Cardial pre-L619 fits nicely with TMRCA dates of YFull (Cardial ware spread over the Adriatic ca 8 ka)
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-L618/
I guess Avelaner was pre-L619 too, unless you find a reliable source (although pre-V13 would just fit the 7.6 ka TMRCA of L618 compared to 7.5 ka arival of Cardial Ware in Iberia)
a European origin for E-V13 seems almost certain.
note that the neolithic C1a2-V86 split 42.8 ka from the mesolithic La Brana C1a2-V20*, compared to 43.5 ka as the earliest date for the Aurignacian in Willendorf
https://www.yfull.com/tree/C-V20/
H2 is almost extinct, C1a2 is less than 1 % of the European population
it shows that most neolithic branches got extinct, only a few branches re-expanded later, E-V13 being one of them