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    I think he meant R1b not J2b1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I think he meant R1b not J2b1
    Yeah I think so too.

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    I am going to give everyone until 6PM Eastern Standard Time (U.S.) to delete and if they choose, copy/paste all the off-topic posts somewhere else. Then I will remove them all.


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    deleted....
    Last edited by Bergin; 10-06-17 at 06:40.

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    thanks for all the info over the last year.
    Last edited by Bergin; 10-06-17 at 06:41.

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    The Albanians are the most fascinating posters in this forum, bar none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apsurdistan View Post
    The Albanians are the most fascinating posters in this forum, bar none.
    familiar with sheakspire? much ado about nothing ...

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    Sometimes I don't know what you're talking about I guess I don't have the quantum mind like you, but fascinating nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apsurdistan View Post
    Sometimes I don't know what you're talking about I guess I don't have the quantum mind like you, but fascinating nonetheless.
    What I mean is that we are discussing samples taken by others in other countries. We are talking a lot but none is digging to find 'precious' bones home. And imagine to dna test them ....
    So, we make a lot of noise, but that is it.

    If it was not for some italians and croatians that went to test, Ev13 and J2b2 could have waited another century for albanias to discover them... it is so frustrating.

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    Now we've gone off the topic of the off topic from the original topic.

    You're making Angelas brain sweat. Here comes the "hammer"

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    I dont understand how these posts are off topic? We are discussing if a lot of slavs are slavisized albanians?
    Whether or not that is true has a huge impact on how we should interpret all that J2b2-L283 among non-albanian balkanites.
    And how we interpret that has a huge impact on the arguments one can use to support the claim that J2b2-L283 is indeed Illyrian.
    So as far as i see, nothing off topic here.

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    Oh yeah? Posts about Venetian Albania are on topic are they? Your logic is faulty.

    @Absurdistan,

    LeBrok uses the hammer. I use Athena's spear. :)

    I really appreciate people with a sense of humor. You're starting to grow on me, if you understand that idiom. :) Just don't use your humor to ***** other ethnicites.

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    Great. Where is the reich video you talked about then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Oh yeah? Posts about Venetian Albania are on topic are they? Your logic is faulty.

    @Absurdistan,

    LeBrok uses the hammer. I use Athena's spear. :)

    I really appreciate people with a sense of humor. You're starting to grow on me, if you understand that idiom. :) Just don't use your humor to ***** other ethnicites.
    You have to delete also this post, because here started the discussion about Albania Veneta:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    16th and 17th century venetian archives stated this about montenegro ( you do know montenegro is a venetian word ) , coastal montenegro which venice ruled was ethnic dalmatians, who once spoke dalmatian, inner montenegro was controlled by 2 different ethnic family, the croatians and serbians, they had the titles of Hum and Zeta..........no mention of Bosnians, albanians or turks

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalmatian_language

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    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    You have to delete also this post, because here started the discussion about Albania Veneta:
    Yeah. The guy came out of nowhere with offtopic discussions when it's about haplogroups.

    If people are so good at dishing it out from nowhere, they better be able to take the response too.

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    How old are some of you?

    "Mommy, mommy, he started it first!" That was the point at which I usually threatened to cancel the trip and bring everybody home.

    Grow up, and stop causing all this chaos or you're going to be out of here.

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    Wow Angela, are they causing chaos by pointing out that someone went off topic?
    LABERIA was just poiting out for you where the first off-topic post was located on the thread.
    Isn't that just helping, Angela?
    I smell some emotions interfering with someones logical sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    How old are some of you?

    "Mommy, mommy, he started it first!" That was the point at which I usually threatened to cancel the trip and bring everybody home.

    Grow up, and stop causing all this chaos or you're going to be out of here.
    The question is not how old we are or if it's time for us to grow up. The problem is that you have to understand that you are a moderator in an respected international forum and you can't go around deleting posts without reasons. Can you tell me please, what was wrong in my posts against the rules of this forum?

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    It is because she/he is editing threads so they will fit her/his beliefs better.
    That is why she only deleted your posts, but not the serbian guys post. She/he though no one would notice.
    When you pointed it out, she/he had to make an excuse for not deleting it, and that excuse was the we have to grow up

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    2 members found this post helpful.
    Actually thought this forum would be more serious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    The question is not how old we are or if it's time for us to grow up. The problem is that you have to understand that you are a moderator in an respected international forum and you can't go around deleting posts without reasons. Can you tell me please, what was wrong in my posts against the rules of this forum?
    You are supposed to keep on topic. I gather you never read the forum rules? That's always a mistake.

    The topic is whether a certain ydna lineage is proto-Illyrian, not petty disputes about the extent of Venetian areas thousands of years later.

    If you can't understand that you have a problem with your reasoning ability and sense of chronology

    Keep it up and you'll get another richly deserved infraction.

    You and some of the other Albanian members, and now some returning Serbian members make a zoo out of innumerable academic threads, and it's going to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balkanite View Post
    Wow Angela, are they causing chaos by pointing out that someone went off topic?
    LABERIA was just poiting out for you where the first off-topic post was located on the thread.
    Isn't that just helping, Angela?
    I smell some emotions interfering with someones logical sense
    The a-scientific ******** engaged in by him and certain other posters is what makes certain threads virtually unreadable for any serious poster.

    He pointed out Sile's post because he's annoyed he had more posts deleted than Sile, and Sile's was the first.

    Like I said, childish and pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    The a-scientific ******** engaged in by him and certain other posters is what makes certain threads virtually unreadable for any serious poster.

    He pointed out Sile's post because he's annoyed he had more posts deleted than Sile, and Sile's was the first.

    Like I said, childish and pathetic.
    Excuse me, what do you consider academic discussion, being forced to read your husband's opinion ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Now, when Greeks tell me upon hearing my last name, as they always do, "Una faccia, una razza", I can say, yes, indeed, and the genetics proves it. :)

    My husband was always very interested in the commonalities between the Greeks and the southern Italians as some of his family were speaking Griko into the 19th century, and his paternal grandfather was born within sight of Greek ruins. He also was a Classics minor at university, Latin and Greek studies. So, very interested indeed.

    To be completely honest, though, I also like being right. :)
    And from the other side you continue to delete my posts full with references from many scholars starting from the Herodotus, the father of history and continue with other important scholars from antiquity until in our days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Oh yeah? Posts about Venetian Albania are on topic are they? Your logic is faulty.

    @Absurdistan,

    LeBrok uses the hammer. I use Athena's spear. :)

    I really appreciate people with a sense of humor. You're starting to grow on me, if you understand that idiom. :) Just don't use your humor to ***** other ethnicites.
    And you contribute much to this forum and it's nice to have a lady in here. You're kind of a freak that you're obsessed with this stuff but in a good healthy sense :)

    We Yugoslavians (I know it's not a country anymore but it gets really annoying labeling 5 or 6 nationalities every time) have a stereotype that Bosnians are funny and Montenegrians are lazy. And I guess I fit both of those.
    Can I share a Montenegrian joke? Trust me it's not offense it's in good spirit and you can all have a good laugh and proceed with the topic. Or you can even delete it it's fine.

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    Well Apsurdistan you're true Bosnian like most i know,I think the same way of Bosnians not in stereo typical way, they're funny and other things that i remember they like to sing and are good singers don't know about you thought lol.
    However Bosnians are some of my favorite people in ex-Yugoslavia.

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