Excine
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- H2a1c
The E-V13 were present in La Tene Celts, Pannonians (we already have some samples from them and one is E-V13), Thracians heavily and very likely the Dardanians, the E-V13 in Naissus isn't exactly like the Kapitan Andreevo E-V13 samples, in fact he looks close to HRV_IA samples. They were male clans and were taking women wherever they settled down.
As for Mycenae, we all agreed E-V13 will not be there, it's rather after the Late Bronze Age/Early Iron Age turbulences we expect to find. 1 Ancient Macedonian site has already 1 E-V13, 2 E-V13 brothers appeared in Ancient Greek Byzantine city of Nicaea.
The E-V13 from Isar Marvinci isn't really Macedonian. The Macedonian Kingdom expanded in this region in the 5th century but he isn't marked as different from the other individuals from Macedonia which are similar to Albania and Montenegro:
Our samples from North Macedonia (Fig. S 34) are of particular interest as this country is at
the heart of the southeastern wing of the Southern Arc, surrounded by Albania, Serbia, Bulgaria,
and Greece. North Macedonia is thus transitional between the Aegean and the rest of Europe and
between east and west within the Balkans. Most individuals sampled are from the 1st millennium
BCE and are labeled MKD_Anc. The population had primarily Anatolian Neolithic and
CHG/EHG ancestry. The 1st millennium individuals are genetically similar to a single MKD_BA
individual from the Bronze Age (I7231; 1367-1124 calBCE from Ulanci-Veles) suggesting that
the 1st millennium BCE population had continuity with at least the Late Bronze Age.
The Macedonian expansion brought this in the region:
There are two outliers within this population. I10392/MKD_Anc_outlier1 has high CHG
and Levant_PPN and no EHG ancestry and clusters with Near Eastern populations. I10167/
MKD_Anc_outlier2 has high CHG and no EHG/Levant_PPN ancestry. These outliers are from a
time when North Macedonia was part of the political continuum formed by the eastward
expansion of Alexander the Great and his successors and it is plausible that these outliers
represent people with ancestry from West Asia, particularly in the case of I10392 who also
possessed substantial Levantine ancestry
We shouldn't fall into the trap of calling everything that is found in the territory of eastern Illyria-Paeonia-western Thrace "Macedonian" just because the country today is called "North Macedonia" and because it was conquered by the Macedonian Kingdom in the 5th century BC.