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That's something agreed upon, but your theory is likely truth as much as the others who insist on IE Danube links. And i personally believe the truth meets somewhere in the middle between your version and Danube IE. I remember asking you guys to what culture is Kapitan Andreevo related to, i even searched for material in Bulgarian but found none, can you please link us a source, be it in Serbian or Bulgarian that clearly indicates Kapitan Andreevo was part of Psenicevo-Babadag Cultural group?
It is not easy to find material on this, especially Kapitan Andreevo. But ofc it is in Bulgarian and it cannot be found just like that on google. There is plenty of Bulgarian material on Svilengrad complex, which included nearby Kapitan Andreevo. You remember that old E-Z1919 find (per some confirmed as V13+ and surely on hi res he is V13) from Svilengrad proper. So you should take that find also into account. Primary source for classification was knowledge of what Pshenichevo culture is. Burial customs, pottery found were all typical of that culture which at the time dominated the area. I could have but I didn't go into minute details on the finds, as I don't receive much credit for that already and as people do not follow evidence, why would I bother to explain? And ofc I'm thinking about possibly writing something on the topic so I don not want to reveal all. Good information on the entire Svielngrad find can be found in Bulgarian archeological chronicle.
You can find even English sources that do attribute Svilengrad complex to Pshenichevo culture.
Babadag is a sister culture of Pshenichevo. MJ12 "Thraco-Cimmerian" I have classified as belonging to Babadag culture. I went for this in Russian and Ukrainian archeological sources. Because that find from Dobruja is on the Ukrainian territory, even though it's to the South of Moldova.
Autosomally MJ12 shows affinities with Moldovan "Scythians" (Getae).
Rivermans theory about V13 being very related tu Urnfield and original Gava is done. So there aren't many options left. Sorry but my version is based on pure archeogenetic facts while yours and Rivermans contains lots of wishful thinking, often not paying attention to facts. Many Central/N.European V13's would like to be of more Northern origin so they could be "more white"..
E-V13 has nothing to do with deep Central Europe (S.Germany, Austria, Slovakia etc.) , Western Europe. Most of samples from there are related to newer migrations (Roman etc.).
Also, if we believe this guy: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread...gh-Ancient-DNA&p=593903&viewfull=1#post593903
Most of Etruscans speculatively were R1b, with one I1, and confirmed J2b2-L283 so far. So, no E-V13 i guess among Etruscans or Pelasgians.
Pelasgians are very undefined. But as I was saying Pelasgians of Lemnos might be related to some modern G2a finds from there.
No, Angela asked you for peer reviewed paper, you quoted Aspar.
And, despite that, Aspar was deducing the likelihood of Cardial Farmer spread and the logic behind why E-L618 spread with this culture and not directly from North Africa. Nowhere did he mention Proto-Berber language.
Angela sked for the paper and I added the link..
Well I haven't been reading that paper in great detail, but I have noticed how modern North Africans seem to have some visible EEF component, that is not related to any recent Spanish ancestry etc.
And also remember that I was finding evidence of Natufian cultural practices in Cardials from Dalmatia, and I claimed long ago they could have spoken an AA language.