Dema, I assume you are fighting the most recent academic studies on these populations, because you are not personally satisfied withwhat the results are showing. I am not giving you my personal speculation on these matters, but merely pointing out what the leading scholars in human population genetics are proposing. You are merely trying to reconcile disjointed maps, with dubious claims, which is rather obvious, that you are vying for a preferred interpretation.
I am not fighting anything, i gave my opinion which i believe is most logical due to all the given facts (Ydna, mtDNA, autosomal, history, archaeology, etc..), but somehow you are trying to attribute and you are actually fighting that Greeks, central and south Italians, and Albanians are being pulled clearly and are matching Middle East because of Anatolian Bronze Age, and like that is the only reason while you are completely ignoring East Mediterranean (Greeko - Phoenician) influence even tho there are clear Y-DNA, autosomal, and historical evidences.
I am not using outdated research lol, this is quote from research you are using and posting entire time:
Italian clusters separated into three main groups: Sardinia, Northern (North/Central-North Italy), and Southern Italy (South/Central-South Italy and Sicily); the first two were close to populations originally from Western Europe, while the last was closer to Middle Eastern groups (Fig. 1, A and B; figs. S1D and S2, A to C; and data file S1). These observations were confirmed using a subset of the dataset genotyped for a larger number of SNPs [high-density dataset (HDD) including 591,217 SNPs; see Materials and Methods and the Supplementary Materials; fig. S1D and data file S1]. To highlight the geographic distribution of the identified clusters along the Italian peninsula, we reconstructed the cluster composition of the various administrative regions of Italy by using the best sampling origin information available for each individual in our dataset (Fig. 1C and data file S1). Recent migrants and admixed individuals, as identified on the basis of their copying vectors (fig. S3, data file S2), were removed in subsequent CP/fS analyses (see Materials and Methods and the Supplementary Materials).
This is research, its link you gave
: https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/9/eaaw3492.full
Clearly research says under conclusion that central and north italian groups are closer Middle Eastern groups. Are you denying Semitic Y-DNA found in Imperial and Middle Age Romans ? Which could not spread in Bronze Age because all the proofs say it spread later with Phoenicians or with Canaanites.
To think that only Slavic admixture pushes Albanians away from this sample and to celebrate like Angela celebrated few pages back fact that N Italians are closer to Illyrians is purely wishful thinking. And seems you cant comprehend with facts that we have various genetic mixtures here as Saxons, Nomans, Hungarians, etc, you just cant model all admixture and all clusters into for example 60 % Caucasus hunter-gatherer and 40 % Anatolia Neolithic, i hope you do understand this. You wont find what is pushing Albanians from I4331 Dalmatia by focusing on two hunter-gatherer groups that lived 20 000 years ago and two prepicked Bronze Age groups like ABA.
Do you understand that ABA is not so far from Levant Bronze Age, and that Levant Bronze age is 50 % CHG or ZGH (Zagros hunter-gatherer)
How you plan to isolate Middle Eastern cluster by looking at CHG when Bronze Age Middle East is also 50 % Caucasus and Zagros hunter gatherer.
Please dont mention hunter gatherers and population that lived 10 000 years ago when its clear that this is something more recent.
The fact of the matter is, the source populations that compose Albanians, are ultimately summed up in the modeling. You are predominately Anatolian Bronze Age derived. I know that isn’t cool on Eurogenes, but you must accept reality. Your ancestors, prior to Slavic invasions, were possibly even closer to these people. That is, if you look at it from the most logical perspective. Moreover, your obsession with Phoenician admixture with Greeks and Romans, is obviously coming from a place of insecurity.
Anatolian Bronze Age is derived from Caucasus and Zagros hunter-gatherers and natives therefore same as Bronze Age Levant and somewhat modern Fertile Crescent, therefore what you think is ABA its actually East Mediterranean which is very similar to ABA anyways if you look closer.
And regarding insecurities why would i have insecurities when clearly history says Phoenicians mixed with Greeks and Romans and Ydna just as autosomal DNA confirms it. It seems you have complexes because of Steppe haplogroup and its hard for you to accept that you are not 100 % steppe neither 100% ABA but mix of much more genetics and historical event as were iron age Phoenician and Greek colonies all over Mediterranean Sea.
It is well known that Albanians dislike Greeks. However, you are in the minority, because most people do not subscribe to what ethno-nationalistic Abanians believe in. TBH, most people in the USA, or even Europe, probably wouldn't even be able to locate it on a map. I would recommend reading the studies, since you have admitted that you are ignorant of what they are. I’m not sure how things work in Albania, but in most other areas of the world, people come prepared with citable academic sources in these kinds of discussions.
Albanians dont dislike anyone, Albanians are most peaceful and friendly people in the world. Albanians can be crude because of history they endured but Albanians are nothing like you are representing them. Albanians neither me personally dont hate Greeks and trying to represent pure historical facts like Greek intermixing with Phoenicians as my hatered towards Greeks is really ridiculous. I simply believe this is true due to all given facts, regarding population genetics, Y-DNA and mtDNA wise, but also other expertise fields like history, archaeology, linguistics, etc.
