Well, according to The Rrenjet :
a)
Labs have
twice as much J2b(not just ph1751) as other
Tosk.
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(Note; Tosk should be taken in a geographic sense, aka a proxy for a South Albanian region with in the known linguistic divide borders.Whatever Gheg or Vlach populations settled in the area in the last Centuries they are by now long incorporated in the general population and adopted the accent of the majority.The only population that could(to a high degree) be held as representative of the original(albanophone) South Albanian population before the alleged(by me) movement of Muslim populations from the north into the south, are the Greek Orthodox Tosk. A comparison between them and Norther Ghegs would be meaningful, and would yield interesting and of great importance data that can be used to derive historical and ethnographic conclusions.)
b) with out the Labs, the remaining Tosk
J2b rate is 5% compared to the Ghegs 20%. Again, J2b in general not just ph1751.
This is what i meant by taking in mind the different profiles or the religious minorities. As it is know Labs are exclusively Muslim, which may hints to the origins of the dominant group in the area(that then mixed with locals), whereas most Tosk Christians.
Am guessing once you further categorize the results, you will see an even lower rate of ph1751 in christian Tosks, which is what you expect if what i wrote in my first post are correct.
C) Although the samples are fairly low, so no conclusive statement cant be make about these two groups,both
Chams and the (alleged)
Arvanite samples from Greece(unless i didn't understand it correctly), show
no presence of J2b, and therefor no presence of J-ph1751. Which is again what you would expect if what i claim in the first post are correct.
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D) (this based on the Study of
Arbereshe)
J-Ph1751 show little presence in Arbereshe too. The
total rate of J2b is less than 3%, so what ever j-ph1751 exist in them will be at least that low and probably much much lower.
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Now the relatively higher presence of z2705 compare to the J-ph1751 in south Albania is puzzling. I would havve expected it to have been lower, but it may have another explanation in addition to the arrival of northern Albanian populations in the region. Probably part of it is related to the settling in the area of christian vlachs in the first millennia, or the regional abnormality is coincidental on the bases of the founder effect(although i doubt the later).