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New interesting V13 results from Croatia. From Pribislav (also poreklo admin)
R3745; 23-121 AD; Zadar_Hypo_banka, Croatia; E-V13>Z1057>Y30977>Y30976>Y99739>BY66293
R3659; 249-378 AD; Scitarjevo, Croatia; E-V13>Z1057>CTS1273>BY3880>Z5017>BY4642>Z38334* (xBY4710,BY4715,Z37883)
Y30977 in Liburnian area 1st century AD.
Firstly Y30977 is an old and mostly Western Balkan branch that I used to connect with Cetina culture. This sort of result could give some support in that direction. I used to think of maybe some Nyirseg-Cetina connection, but I couldn't find any direct evidence for that archeologically. But Nyirseg was part of the Vucedol complex which encompassed the subsequent Cetina area.
Ofc I need to take a look at this site, who these people were in Roman times already.
Other main point is that Liburnians were also linguistically Venetian and Urnfield related, so this find could be related to that as well.
It could be a newer arrival in IA or even Roman age.. Parallel clade with MBA TMRCA was found in Avars recently. It was clearly of Byzantine origin, not only due to the very Southern autosomal profile but also due to Byzantine gear found there.
Basal Z5017 clade find is from near Zagreb, N.Croatia, Pannonia, it is newer (3rd-4th century) could be Roman, IA or Urnfield (less likely) related.
R3745; 23-121 AD; Zadar_Hypo_banka, Croatia; E-V13>Z1057>Y30977>Y30976>Y99739>BY66293
R3659; 249-378 AD; Scitarjevo, Croatia; E-V13>Z1057>CTS1273>BY3880>Z5017>BY4642>Z38334* (xBY4710,BY4715,Z37883)
Y30977 in Liburnian area 1st century AD.
Firstly Y30977 is an old and mostly Western Balkan branch that I used to connect with Cetina culture. This sort of result could give some support in that direction. I used to think of maybe some Nyirseg-Cetina connection, but I couldn't find any direct evidence for that archeologically. But Nyirseg was part of the Vucedol complex which encompassed the subsequent Cetina area.
Ofc I need to take a look at this site, who these people were in Roman times already.
Other main point is that Liburnians were also linguistically Venetian and Urnfield related, so this find could be related to that as well.
It could be a newer arrival in IA or even Roman age.. Parallel clade with MBA TMRCA was found in Avars recently. It was clearly of Byzantine origin, not only due to the very Southern autosomal profile but also due to Byzantine gear found there.
Basal Z5017 clade find is from near Zagreb, N.Croatia, Pannonia, it is newer (3rd-4th century) could be Roman, IA or Urnfield (less likely) related.