"African genes are dominant"

yes they are
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If the government offered you $800,000 in reparations would you identify as Black and/or African American?

I don't believe in reparations.

I won't identify as Black nor African American
I don't believe in the social constructs of the black and white races since over 7 years ago.
I never believed in the one drop rule.
 
Constructions specific to a simple definition based on outmoded methods are bound to have issues. However, I do believe that genetic differences, including intermixture with divergent ancient hominids accounts for something beyond a "construction". Those biological differences are real and not based on a socially agreed upon convention.

Even if those differences are relatively small. There's life and death consequences in terms of medical treatment specific to a person's ethnicity. For example BiDil is an FDA-approved heart medication for Sub-Saharan African descended people.

Another example regarding Asians:

https://www.med.ubc.ca/news/genetic...r-risk-of-side-effects-to-common-medications/

At any rate, I don't wish to impose my beliefs on you.
 
It seems to me that current political discourse in vouge specifically among the Left is that race is indeed real, except for White/Europeans who are some kind of amalgamation.

Well, everyone is some kind of amalgamation, including Africans, Asians, and Native Americans.

Nevertheless, I think those mixtures have been around in those specific areas long enough to become something unto itself. A race, if you will.

It would be like saying Green isn't a real color. Only Blue and Yellow are real. Which is an absurd statement imo. Or another example I've used here often, is food recipes. Cakes are real and tangible as a food item unto itself. It doesn't matter that it is composed of different ingredients, or that it has overlapping ingredients with things like pies.
 
I am of highly mixed ancestry. Maybe I incarnated as a very mixed person to not only believe that there should be unity and universal love but also to challenge the social constructs of race.
Therefore, I don't fit in any of the racial categories. I identified as multiracial/multiethnic for the last 3 US Censuses. I have never believed in the one drop rule. I never identified as black nor African American.




My 23andme Ancestry Composition has me as being
49.7% Sub Saharan African
47.5% European
1.7% Indigenous American
0.6% West Asian
0.3% Chinese/Southeast Asian
0.2% Unassigned




parental inheritance derived from my DNA phasing between my mother's DNA and my DNA
Sub Saharan African: 43.4% is paternal, 6.3% is maternal
European: 43.2% is maternal, 4.3% is paternal
Indigenous American: 1.0% is maternal, 0.7% is paternal
West Asian: 0.6% is maternal
Chinese/Southeast Asian: 0.3% is paternal
Unassigned: 0.2% is maternal




My mother is mostly European (86.3%) with some Sub Saharan African (10.1%) with a little Indigenous American (1.9%). She has peach colored skin that fits anywhere in Europe, and she can tan. My father was mostly Sub Saharan African with some European with a little Indigenous American. He had chocolate brown skin that would fit quite well in the Sub Saharan regions of Africa. My tan skin is like a blending of my parents' skin colors, and I can get as dark as my father if I stay out in the sunlight for a long period of time.




I am so multiethnic that I am related to many of my fellow Americans in many different ways.




My Genealogical Ancestry


I am a 4th generation Californian on my mother's side, and my father was a 7th generation Louisianan.


paternal grandfather: African American born in Louisiana


paternal grandmother's father: African American born in Southern Louisiana
other roots in Virginia, South Carolina, and Kentucky


paternal grandmother's mother: African American with English and Acadian (French in what now known as Nova Scotia) born in Southern Louisiana
colonial roots in Louisiana, Virginia, and North Carolina


maternal grandfather's father: American born in California and son of immigrants from Cape Verde (Portuguese and Sub Saharan African)


maternal grandfather's mother: American born in California with a father from Puerto Rico (Spanish, Sub Saharan African, and Taino) and a mother that was a Hawaiian daughter of immigrants from Madeira (Portuguese with Sub Saharan African)


maternal grandmother's father: European American born in Oregon of mainly English ancestry with German, Swiss, Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Dutch, and Frisian
colonial roots in Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, and Rhode Island
other roots in Missouri, Kansas, Alabama, Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Indiana


maternal grandmother's mother: Ashkenazi Jewish American born in Nebraska with a father born in Romania and a mother born in Courland (in what is now known as Latvia) in Russian Empire


Because of the Transatlantic Slave trade, I don't know anything about my Sub Saharan African ancestry, but I am sure that it's mainly from West and Central Africa. Most of the Sub Saharan African slaves were brought from West and Central Africa. Africa has over 2,000 ethnic groups, and that includes Nigeria having over 400 ethnic groups. My Sub Saharan African ancestry is highly likely to consist of many Sub Saharan African ethnic groups. I don't know what kind of Indigenous American ancestry that I have on my father's side.
 
Black and white races are social constructs that have no scientific basis. If these social constructs weren't created, there would not be any stupid arguments about people being black and white in regards to anything. Human beings are far too diverse to be pinned down to color names. There is a highly great amount of diversity in Africa alone. Africans have the greatest genetic variation. Africa is an extremely diverse continent with over 2,000 ethnic groups. That includes Nigeria with over 400 ethnic groups. These social constructs of races were created out of ignorance.

I am all for getting rid of the residue of Scientific Racism which the social constructs of the races are. I stopped believing in them over 7 years ago. I was brainwashed to believe in the social constructs of the races during my early conditioning as a child in 1970s and 1980s. I have experienced racism for being a person that is around half Sub Saharan African. I've been called the n'word numerous time. My first time was my 9th birthday. The last time was back in 2009. There have been people have tried to make me identify as black. Maybe those experiences why it took me so damned long for me to stop believing in the social constructs of the races when I was around 44 years old. I am 51 years old. Reading about genetics of human populations, learning a lot about my ancestral roots from genetic testing and genealogy including connecting with long lost family, and Rachel Dolezal Soul Woman fiasco were factors in why I changed my views about social constructs of race. I have grown to now despise them.


White or Caucasian was not always considered a unified race composed of anyone of European descent.


Whiteness was often considered exclusive to Anglo-Saxon descendants while other European groups were broken into different ethnic categories such as "Celt", "Slavs", "Iberics", and "Hebrews" which were considered separate races from the 1840s to the early 20th Century.


In the 1920s when there was a stemming migration from Europe, different races were subsumed into one category called "whiteness" to shore up a cultural majority against other racial groups and immigrants and this persisted throughout the 20th Century.


Race started as as a marker of kinship, but then we see it shift to become less about familial inheritance and more focused on physical indicators due to the rise of Enlightenment reasoning and labor exploitation.



I have been into Genetic Genealogy since 2011. The more I read up on genetics of human populations, the more I am convinced that the social constructs of the black and white races are outdated and stupid.




I never believed in the one drop rule which is outdated, racist, and stupid. I even identified as multiracial/multiethnic for the last 3 US Censuses.


According to a 2015 research study, The Genetic Ancestry of African Americans, Latinos, and European Americans across the United States:


From 23andme database


African Americans show average proportions of 73.2% African, 24.0% European, and 0.8% Native American ancestry.


Latinos show average proportions of 65.1% European, 18.0% Native American, and 6.2% African ancestry


European Americans show average proportions of 98.6% European, 0.19% African, and 0.18% Native American ancestry








Johann Friedrich Blumenbach divided the human species into five races in 1779, later founded on cranial research (description of human skulls), and called them


the Caucasian race (Europe, the Caucasus, Asia Minor, North Africa and West Asia)


the Mongolian race (East Asia, Central Asia and South Asia)


the Aethiopian race (Sub-Saharan Africa)


the American race (North America and South America)


the Malayan race (Southeast Asia)


These five groups saw some continuity in the various classification schemes of the 19th century, in some cases augmented, e.g. by the Australoid race and the Capoid race in some cases the Mongolian (East Asian) and American collapsed into a single group.


The "three great races" according to Meyers Konversations-Lexikon of 1885–90.


The subtypes are:


Mongoloid race


Caucasoid race


Negroid race


Dravidians and Sinhalese and their classification is described as uncertain


The Mongoloid race sees the widest geographic distribution, including all of the Americas, North Asia, East Asia, and Southeast Asia, the entire inhabited Arctic while they form most of Central Asia and the Pacific Islands.


Arthur de Gobineau was a successful diplomat for the Second French Empire. He came to believe that race created culture, arguing that distinctions between the three "black", "white", and "yellow" races were natural barriers, and that "race-mixing" breaks those barriers down and leads to chaos. He classified the populations of the Middle East, Central Asia, the Indian subcontinent, North Africa, and southern France as being racially mixed. Gobineau also believed that the white race was superior to all others. He thought it corresponded to the ancient Indo-European culture, also known as "Aryan".According to his definitions, the people of Spain, most of France, most of Germany, southern and western Iran as well as Switzerland, Austria, Northern Italy, and a large part of Britain, consisted of a degenerative race that arose from miscegenation. Also according to him, the whole population of North India consisted of a yellow race.


In 1939, Charles Coon published The Races of Europe, in which he concluded:


The Caucasian race is of dual origin consisting of Upper Paleolithic (mixture of Homo sapiens and Neanderthals) types and Mediterranean (purely Homo sapiens) types.


The Upper Paleolithic peoples are the truly indigenous peoples of Europe.


Mediterraneans invaded Europe in large numbers during the Neolithic period and settled there.


The racial situation in Europe today may be explained as a mixture of Upper Paleolithic survivors and Mediterraneans.


When reduced Upper Paleolithic survivors and Mediterraneans mix, then occurs the process of dinarization, which produces a hybrid with non-intermediate features.


The Caucasian race encompasses the regions of Europe, Central Asia, South Asia, the Near East, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa.


The Nordic race is part of the Mediterranean racial stock, being a mixture of Corded and Danubian Mediterraneans.


In 1962, Coon also published The Origin of Races, wherein he offered a definitive statement of the polygenist view. Coon divided humanity into five races and believed that each race had ascended the ladder of human evolution at different rates.


Since Coon followed the traditional methods of physical anthropology, relying on morphological characteristics, and not on the emerging genetics to classify humans, the debate over Origin of Races has been "viewed as the last gasp of an outdated scientific methodology that was soon to be supplanted."


Charles Darwin concluded that the biological similarities between the different races were "too great" for the polygenist thesis to be plausible. He also used the idea of races to argue for the continuity between humans and animals, noting that it would be highly implausible that man should, by mere accident acquire characteristics shared by many apes.


In The Descent of Man, Darwin noted the great difficulty naturalists had in trying to decide how many "races" there actually were:


Man has been studied more carefully than any other animal, and yet there is the greatest possible diversity amongst capable judges whether he should be classed as a single species or race, or as two (Virey), as three (Jacquinot), as four (Kant), five (Blumenbach), six (Buffon), seven (Hunter), eight (Agassiz), eleven (Pickering), fifteen (Bory St. Vincent), sixteen (Desmoulins), twenty-two (Morton), sixty (Crawfurd), or as sixty-three, according to Burke. This diversity of judgment does not prove that the races ought not to be ranked as species, but it shews that they graduate into each other, and that it is hardly possible to discover clear distinctive characters between them.


Charles Darwin's ideas have been discounted by people in his time period because he believed in Abolitionism.


I believe that people that advocate and/or defend the social constructs of the races are part of the problem with racism.


The racial categories Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid are actually considered obsolete racial classification of human beings based on a now-disproven theory of biological race.
 
The following AABA Statement on Race & Racism was written by the AABA subcommittee tasked with revising the previous AABA statement on the Biological Aspects of Race that was published in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology, vol. 101, pp 569-570, 1996. The Committee on Diversity (COD) subcommittee was comprised of (in alpha order): Rebecca Ackermann, Sheela Athreya, Deborah Bolnick, Agustín Fuentes (chair), Tina Lasisi, Sang-Hee Lee, Shay-Akil McLean, and Robin Nelson.


The statement was unanimously accepted by the AABA Executive Committee at its meeting on March 27, 2019 at the 88th Annual Meeting in Cleveland, Ohio.



Executive Summary: AABA Statement on Race and Racism


Race does not provide an accurate representation of human biological variation. It was never accurate in the past, and it remains inaccurate when referencing contemporary human populations. Humans are not divided biologically into distinct continental types or racial genetic clusters. Instead, the Western concept of race must be understood as a classification system that emerged from, and in support of, European colonialism, oppression, and discrimination. It thus does not have its roots in biological reality, but in policies of discrimination. Because of that, over the last five centuries, race has become a social reality that structures societies and how we experience the world. In this regard, race is real, as is racism, and both have real biological consequences.


Humans share the vast majority (99.9%) of our DNA in common. Individuals nevertheless exhibit substantial genetic and phenotypic variability. Genome/environment interactions, local and regional biological changes through time, and genetic exchange among populations have produced the biological diversity we see in humans today. Notably, variants are not distributed across our species in a manner that maps clearly onto socially-recognized racial groups. This is true even for aspects of human variation that we frequently emphasize in discussions of race, such as facial features, skin color and hair type. No group of people is, or ever has been, biologically homogeneous or “pure.” Furthermore, human populations are not — and never have been — biologically discrete, truly isolated, or fixed.


While race does not accurately represent the patterns of human biological diversity, an abundance of scientific research demonstrates that racism, prejudice against someone because of their race and a belief in the inherent superiority and inferiority of different racial groups, affects our biology, health, and well-being. This means that race, while not a scientifically accurate biological concept, can have important biological consequences because of the effects of racism. The belief in races as a natural aspect of human biology and the institutional and structural inequities (racism) that have emerged in tandem with such beliefs in European colonial contexts are among the most damaging elements in human societies.
 
Cutting and pasting from stuff that I previous typed is not a crime.
Yes...I posted the same stuff on other sites. That is not a crime
The last time I checked, there was nothing wrong with that.


No...I am not a spam bot.......I am a legitimate member
I don't know any extremely autistic and hostile Romanian t-roll.
I am a neurodivergent with Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, ADHD.
I even created and run Developmental Neurodiversity Association group and Neurodivergenomics facebook group.


BTW.....You already rubbed me the wrong with your reparations question, but I am showing you my views about reparations.




The following are views that I typed on my facebook wall in regards to reparations
These are in chronological order
my name is Raymond Nolan Scott and that's the name on my facebook account

I'd give you the actual links but I am not allowed to.



Aug 26. 2014 at 8:58 PM
a post that I did about my view about reparations which were comments that I made in Black History Facts facebook group which led me to be negatively judged as being clearly a product of White Supremacist education and don't know the history that I am talking about:


I don't think Black Reparations is a good idea. It would lead to resentment among non-Black people, and race relations would be even worse. Also...many Blacks helped put other blacks into slavery. Some blacks even owned slaves here in USA. Also..I don't think non-blacks today should pay for the wrongdoings of their ancestors. Most whites in USA did not own slaves.
I really don't view President Obama as black. I have a little more black than he does, and I identify as multiracial. I did it for both 2000 and 2010 US Censuses. The guy is related to multiple White American presidents including even the Bushes. President Obama even shares the royal Plantagenet bloodlines with many past White presidents.




Aug 26, 2014 at 11:14 PM
my comments on a youtube video Rare Dr. Martin Luther King Talks Reparations Civil Rights Not Enough for Black Folk:


This is interesting!
He talks about reparations.
As a person who is part black, I don't believe in reparations.
I believe that slavery in USA was too complex, and it wasn't just about black slavery.
Other types of people were slaves too.
I believe that there is already too much racial resentment, and I believe that reparations would increase it.
Why should many people pay for something that was done in the past?
Why should descendants of people that had nothing to do with slavery have to pay for it?


Oct 18, 2019
my answers to a person's question about reparations aren't sufficient, what is proposed to a generation that had nothing to do with the atrocities that happened then in the comment section of an article that I shared Reparations Doesn't 'Pay' For Over 400 Years of Rape, Robbery, and Murder:


It is too complicated. It should have been done shortly after the Civil War, but Lincoln's successor Andrew Johnson was a Confederate sympathizer that prevented reparations from happening.


Many immigrants came from Europe after the Civil War. Some African Americans were free, and some of them owned slaves. Most African Americans are part European, and many of them descend from slaveowners.


I know that I descend from African American slaves, European American slaveowners, early colonists from Europe, recent immigrants from multiracial colonies, and recent immigrants from Europe. Some of my DNA also shows native ancestry.


I do not know. I do not believe in reparations. I listed the reasons why as well as used my own ancestral background as an example.


Most of my slaveowner ancestors that I know about are on my maternal grandmother's father's side that was European American Colonial. A lot early European colonists in that family tree, and a lot were early British Virginian colonists/plantation owners. My most recent known slaveowner ancestor is on my father's side. He was an Anglo-American from North Carolina and relocated to Southwestern Louisiana where he met and married a Cajun woman. One of their sons had sexual relations with an African American slave female which led to the existence of my paternal grandmother's maternal grandfather.


If you have ancestry from the early European colonists in North America, chances are we could be distant cousins. This goes especially for Acadian ancestry. The recent endogamy in Acadians is so strong that I believe everybody that has Acadian ancestry are related to each other through at least one 17th Century French couple.


My early European colonist ancestors came from England, Scotland, Germany, Ireland, Switzerland, Wales, France (all Acadians), and Holland. They settled in Virginia, Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Tennessee, Kentucky, and New Jersey/New York. My French ancestors were in Nova Scotia before going to Louisiana after the Acadian Expulsion. All of this is referring to ancestors in 17th and 18th Centuries.
This doesn't even include my ancestry from Puerto Rico which I know includes Spanish. I do not know the actual Spanish ancestors' names.




January 29, 2020
That's a bad idea. It's too late for that. Reparations were given to the slave owners. They refused to give land to freed slaves, but they gave millions of acres of land to European Americans in the west and the mid-west. There has been far too much immigration since the end of Civil War to give reparations now. It would lead to more "White Backlash."




June 30, 2020
my comments on Forbes article BET Founder Calls For $14 Trillion in Slavery Reparations that I shared:
he is off his rocker
USA is trillions in debt
cannot afford slavery reparations
who gets them?
history of Americans is too complex
I am a descendant of both slaves and slaveowners
a lot of slave owning ancestors on the side of my maternal grandmother's father whose ancestry was Colonial European American
my most recent slave owning ancestor was Benjamin Cross who was my paternal 4th Great Grandfather and husband of my my paternal 4th Great Grandmother Anastasia Bourgeois
his father Elisha Cross and maternal grandfather Tristram Bethea were slave owners too




I am done with this thread.
 
Rubbing you the wrong way is not a crime.

But spamming the same content multiple time is indeed against our rules. So I will kindly ask you to stop doing that.

We do get a lot of people who spam us and we have had disingenuous posters in the past. So my concern is legitimate.

Also, it is an honest question.

We've seen some people like Elizabeth Warren use microscopic traces of Amerindian ancestry to get a free ride in college.

Begin about 50% SSA does indeed make you half "black" in the eyes of 99% of human beings, regardless of your self-identification. But how you see define yourself is your prerogative.
 
Rubbing you the wrong way is not a crime.
But spamming the same content multiple time is indeed against our rules. So I will kindly ask you to stop doing that.
We do get a lot of people who spam us and we have had disingenuous posters in the past. So my concern is legitimate.
Also, it is an honest question.
We've seen some people like Elizabeth Warren use microscopic traces of Amerindian ancestry to get a free ride in college.
Begin about 50% SSA does indeed make you half "black" in the eyes of 99% of human beings, regardless of your self-identification. But how you see define yourself is your prerogative.


I was only posting multiple times about my views and explaining them. I never thought of that as spamming.

No....50% SSA doesn't make me black.
Sub Saharan African doesn't mean black. There are no such thing as black and white races. They are social constructs without any scientific basis. They were created from outdated Scientific Racism which I reject.

Well.....I do have Amerindian ancestry on both my father's side and my mother's side. The latter is Taino from Puerto Rico. My maternal grandfather's maternal grandfather was Puerto Rican. I have Amerindian segments that my mom has. My largest Amerindian segment is actually on my paternal chromosome 9. Interestingly, the only DNA relative matches that I found that match me on that segment are African Americans.
I am not like Elizabeth Warren. I am not trying to get anything.
 
Btw, I think I believe that you're indeed a legit account, I saw your YouTube.

I'm alittle curt sometimes, so maybe we got off on the wrong foot. As for the reparations question, sorry if it rubbed you the wrong way, not the intended reaction. Regarding race as a social construct, I have to disagree. But you're free to post your opinions.

The 1996 article came out quite some time ago. There's been a lot of developments since then. Furthermore, even other geneticists like Razib Khan have made comments about group think and political bias in academia. Especially considering clearly bias people like the adherant marxist Richard Lewontin who popularized the idea that race is merely a social construct.
 
I was only posting in multiple separate threads and sites about my views and explaining them. I never thought of that as spamming.

No....50% SSA doesn't make me black.
Sub Saharan African American doesn't mean black. There are no such thing as black and white races. They are social constructs without any scientific basis. They were created from outdated Scientific Racism which I reject.

Well.....I do have Amerindian ancestry on both my father's side and my mother's side. The latter is Taino from Puerto. My maternal grandfather's maternal grandfather was Puerto Rican. I share segments that my mom has. My largest segment is actually on my paternal chromosome 9. Interestingly, the only DNA relative matches that I found that match me on that segment are African Americans.
I am not like Elizabeth Warren. I am not trying to get anything.

Semantics, nomenclature, classifations are merely how we communicate. But there is indeed scientific evidence for biological differences between humans traditionally from divergent geographic regions.
 
Africans are the most genetically diverse yes.

There's more genetic diversity between SSA than between Europeans and middle easterners.

This great diversity in Africa is possibly facilitated by divergent and extinct ancient hominids (homo Erectus, homo naledi, Neanderthal, etc) intermixed with homo sapiens. Who were also geographically isolated in different pockets of Africa.

Nevertheless, all of these groups closer to one another, than they are to others outside of Africa. What would you call this cluster than? Black sounds like as good a term as any imho.
 

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