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Ancient Eurasia K6
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John Doe
Regular Member
- Messages
- 598
- Reaction score
- 81
- Points
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- Location
- Earth
- Ethnic group
- Ashkenazi Jewish
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- E-PF1975
- mtDNA haplogroup
- K1a9
23andme
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.83
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.34
East_Asian 0.78
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 25.61
Natufian 49.46
Sub_Saharan 2.98
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Ashkenazi 3.39
2 Italian_South 4.04
3 Jew_Moroccan 4.23
4 Sicilian 4.38
5 Jew_Libyan 6.44
6 Jew_Tunisian 6.56
7 Greek 7.1
8 Armenia_ChL 7.87
9 Albanian 8.88
10 Cypriot 9.28
11 Turkish 11.03
12 Lebanese 12.16
13 Druze 12.67
14 Syrian 12.86
15 Bulgarian 13.03
16 Jordanian 13.1
17 Palestinian 13.64
18 Adygei 14.69
19 Romanian 14.97
20 Kumyk 15.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.9% Albanian + 42.1% Lebanese @ 1.06
2 63.3% Greek + 36.7% Lebanese @ 1.07
3 66% Greek + 34% Palestinian @ 1.08
4 65.1% Greek + 34.9% Jordanian @ 1.26
5 75.4% Sicilian + 24.6% Syrian @ 1.28
6 64.7% Greek + 35.3% Syrian @ 1.28
7 59.3% Albanian + 40.7% Syrian @ 1.3
8 81.2% Sicilian + 18.8% Jew_iraqi @ 1.45
9 77.3% Italian_South + 22.7% Syrian @ 1.49
10 90.2% Jew_Moroccan + 9.8% Steppe_EMBA @ 1.49
11 86.2% Italian_South + 13.8% Yemeni @ 1.52
12 74.6% Sicilian + 25.4% Lebanese @ 1.53
13 85.2% Sicilian + 14.8% Kurd_F @ 1.55
14 85.6% Jew_Ashkenazi + 14.4% Lezgin @ 1.55
15 81% Sicilian + 19% Assyrian @ 1.57
16 90.1% Jew_Ashkenazi + 9.9% Iran_N @ 1.59
17 60.8% Albanian + 39.2% Palestinian @ 1.6
18 92.9% Jew_Ashkenazi + 7.1% CHG @ 1.6
19 86.4% Sicilian + 13.6% Iran_LN @ 1.61
20 85.5% Jew_Ashkenazi + 14.5% Georgian @ 1.62
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Jew_iraqi +50% Spanish @ 1.913844
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +25% Icelandic +25% Palestinian @ 0.754884
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cypriot + Czech + Jew_Moroccan + Lebanese @ 0.728083
2 English + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.753863
3 Cypriot + Cypriot + Icelandic + Palestinian @ 0.754884
4 Cypriot + English + Jew_Moroccan + Lebanese @ 0.763523
5 French + Georgian + Jew_Libyan + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.772481
6 Georgian + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Moroccan + Spanish @ 0.797972
7 Czech + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Libyan + Jew_Moroccan @ 0.805472
8 Cypriot + Europe_LNBA + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Yemenite @ 0.808124
9 Croatian + Cypriot + Italian_South + Jordanian @ 0.808888
10 Czech + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.822470
11 Greek + Italian_South + Italian_South + Syrian @ 0.830846
12 BedouinA + Cypriot + Cypriot + Icelandic @ 0.834970
13 BedouinA + Italian_South + Lezgin + Sardinian @ 0.841344
14 French + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Moroccan @ 0.842017
15 Druze + Icelandic + Italian_South + Jew_Yemenite @ 0.844557
16 Cypriot + Cypriot + Icelandic + Jordanian @ 0.845798
17 English + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Libyan + Jew_Moroccan @ 0.845995
18 French + Georgian + Jew_Libyan + Jew_Libyan @ 0.862185
19 Basque + BedouinA + Georgian + Italian_South @ 0.874539
20 Greek + Italian_South + Sicilian + Syrian @ 0.877736
FTDNA
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.32
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.64
East_Asian 0.99
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 25.73
Natufian 49.22
Sub_Saharan 2.10
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Ashkenazi 3.73
2 Italian_South 3.8
3 Sicilian 4.42
4 Jew_Moroccan 5.07
5 Greek 6.76
6 Armenia_ChL 7.12
7 Jew_Tunisian 7.34
8 Jew_Libyan 7.36
9 Albanian 8.66
10 Cypriot 9.34
11 Turkish 10.57
12 Lebanese 12.5
13 Bulgarian 12.71
14 Druze 12.76
15 Syrian 13.24
16 Jordanian 13.63
17 Adygei 14.09
18 Palestinian 14.2
19 Kumyk 14.44
20 Romanian 14.65
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.2% Sicilian + 15.8% Kurd_F @ 0.77
2 80% Sicilian + 20% Georgian @ 0.83
3 52% Jew_iraqi + 48% Spanish @ 0.94
4 85.6% Sicilian + 14.4% Iran_LN @ 0.97
5 82.9% Jew_Ashkenazi + 17.1% Lezgin @ 1.05
6 65.1% Greek + 34.9% Lebanese @ 1.08
7 63.1% Druze + 36.9% French @ 1.08
8 53.5% Druze + 46.5% Romanian @ 1.09
9 85.3% Sicilian + 14.7% Iran_ChL @ 1.11
10 86.5% Sicilian + 13.5% Iranian_Lori @ 1.11
11 82.6% Sicilian + 17.4% Iranian @ 1.12
12 50.1% Bulgarian + 49.9% Druze @ 1.13
13 81.5% Jew_Ashkenazi + 18.5% Chechen @ 1.18
14 80.2% Sicilian + 19.8% Assyrian @ 1.22
15 86.9% Italian_South + 13.1% Iranian_Shirazi @ 1.23
16 83.5% Sicilian + 16.5% Kurd_C @ 1.24
17 85.2% Sicilian + 14.8% Iranian_Mazandarani @ 1.25
18 80.5% Sicilian + 19.5% Azeri @ 1.27
19 59.3% Druze + 40.7% Croatian @ 1.29
20 80.1% Jew_Ashkenazi + 19.9% Adygei @ 1.3
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% Druze @ 1.092285
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +25% Icelandic +25% Lebanese @ 0.538984
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cypriot + Druze + Jew_Moroccan + Ukrainian @ 0.383436
2 Cypriot + Druze + Jew_Moroccan + Norwegian @ 0.497999
3 Croatian + Cypriot + Italian_South + Syrian @ 0.532939
4 Cypriot + Cypriot + Icelandic + Lebanese @ 0.538984
5 Hungarian + Italian_South + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.556780
6 Cypriot + Cypriot + Lebanese + Lithuanian @ 0.562817
7 Greek + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Tunisian + Romanian @ 0.583310
8 Levant_BA + Lezgin + Sicilian + Spanish @ 0.584336
9 Italian_South + Lezgin + Sardinian + Syrian @ 0.599485
10 Cypriot + Cypriot + Lithuanian + Palestinian @ 0.616808
11 Albanian + Bulgarian + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Moroccan @ 0.632952
12 Cypriot + Druze + Europe_LNBA + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.648844
13 Cypriot + Greek + Romanian + Syrian @ 0.656249
14 Bulgarian + Georgian + Jew_Yemenite + Spanish @ 0.656985
15 Cypriot + Cypriot + Europe_LNBA + Lebanese @ 0.665471
16 Albanian + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Tunisian + Romanian @ 0.671159
17 French + Georgian + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.694862
18 Jew_iraqi + Levant_BA + Lithuanian + Sicilian @ 0.698454
19 Cypriot + Druze + Jew_Tunisian + Norwegian @ 0.701543
20 Albanian + Albanian + Georgian + Jew_Libyan @ 0.705270
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.83
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.34
East_Asian 0.78
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 25.61
Natufian 49.46
Sub_Saharan 2.98
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Ashkenazi 3.39
2 Italian_South 4.04
3 Jew_Moroccan 4.23
4 Sicilian 4.38
5 Jew_Libyan 6.44
6 Jew_Tunisian 6.56
7 Greek 7.1
8 Armenia_ChL 7.87
9 Albanian 8.88
10 Cypriot 9.28
11 Turkish 11.03
12 Lebanese 12.16
13 Druze 12.67
14 Syrian 12.86
15 Bulgarian 13.03
16 Jordanian 13.1
17 Palestinian 13.64
18 Adygei 14.69
19 Romanian 14.97
20 Kumyk 15.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.9% Albanian + 42.1% Lebanese @ 1.06
2 63.3% Greek + 36.7% Lebanese @ 1.07
3 66% Greek + 34% Palestinian @ 1.08
4 65.1% Greek + 34.9% Jordanian @ 1.26
5 75.4% Sicilian + 24.6% Syrian @ 1.28
6 64.7% Greek + 35.3% Syrian @ 1.28
7 59.3% Albanian + 40.7% Syrian @ 1.3
8 81.2% Sicilian + 18.8% Jew_iraqi @ 1.45
9 77.3% Italian_South + 22.7% Syrian @ 1.49
10 90.2% Jew_Moroccan + 9.8% Steppe_EMBA @ 1.49
11 86.2% Italian_South + 13.8% Yemeni @ 1.52
12 74.6% Sicilian + 25.4% Lebanese @ 1.53
13 85.2% Sicilian + 14.8% Kurd_F @ 1.55
14 85.6% Jew_Ashkenazi + 14.4% Lezgin @ 1.55
15 81% Sicilian + 19% Assyrian @ 1.57
16 90.1% Jew_Ashkenazi + 9.9% Iran_N @ 1.59
17 60.8% Albanian + 39.2% Palestinian @ 1.6
18 92.9% Jew_Ashkenazi + 7.1% CHG @ 1.6
19 86.4% Sicilian + 13.6% Iran_LN @ 1.61
20 85.5% Jew_Ashkenazi + 14.5% Georgian @ 1.62
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Jew_iraqi +50% Spanish @ 1.913844
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +25% Icelandic +25% Palestinian @ 0.754884
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cypriot + Czech + Jew_Moroccan + Lebanese @ 0.728083
2 English + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.753863
3 Cypriot + Cypriot + Icelandic + Palestinian @ 0.754884
4 Cypriot + English + Jew_Moroccan + Lebanese @ 0.763523
5 French + Georgian + Jew_Libyan + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.772481
6 Georgian + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Moroccan + Spanish @ 0.797972
7 Czech + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Libyan + Jew_Moroccan @ 0.805472
8 Cypriot + Europe_LNBA + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Yemenite @ 0.808124
9 Croatian + Cypriot + Italian_South + Jordanian @ 0.808888
10 Czech + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.822470
11 Greek + Italian_South + Italian_South + Syrian @ 0.830846
12 BedouinA + Cypriot + Cypriot + Icelandic @ 0.834970
13 BedouinA + Italian_South + Lezgin + Sardinian @ 0.841344
14 French + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Moroccan @ 0.842017
15 Druze + Icelandic + Italian_South + Jew_Yemenite @ 0.844557
16 Cypriot + Cypriot + Icelandic + Jordanian @ 0.845798
17 English + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Libyan + Jew_Moroccan @ 0.845995
18 French + Georgian + Jew_Libyan + Jew_Libyan @ 0.862185
19 Basque + BedouinA + Georgian + Italian_South @ 0.874539
20 Greek + Italian_South + Sicilian + Syrian @ 0.877736
FTDNA
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.32
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.64
East_Asian 0.99
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 25.73
Natufian 49.22
Sub_Saharan 2.10
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Ashkenazi 3.73
2 Italian_South 3.8
3 Sicilian 4.42
4 Jew_Moroccan 5.07
5 Greek 6.76
6 Armenia_ChL 7.12
7 Jew_Tunisian 7.34
8 Jew_Libyan 7.36
9 Albanian 8.66
10 Cypriot 9.34
11 Turkish 10.57
12 Lebanese 12.5
13 Bulgarian 12.71
14 Druze 12.76
15 Syrian 13.24
16 Jordanian 13.63
17 Adygei 14.09
18 Palestinian 14.2
19 Kumyk 14.44
20 Romanian 14.65
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.2% Sicilian + 15.8% Kurd_F @ 0.77
2 80% Sicilian + 20% Georgian @ 0.83
3 52% Jew_iraqi + 48% Spanish @ 0.94
4 85.6% Sicilian + 14.4% Iran_LN @ 0.97
5 82.9% Jew_Ashkenazi + 17.1% Lezgin @ 1.05
6 65.1% Greek + 34.9% Lebanese @ 1.08
7 63.1% Druze + 36.9% French @ 1.08
8 53.5% Druze + 46.5% Romanian @ 1.09
9 85.3% Sicilian + 14.7% Iran_ChL @ 1.11
10 86.5% Sicilian + 13.5% Iranian_Lori @ 1.11
11 82.6% Sicilian + 17.4% Iranian @ 1.12
12 50.1% Bulgarian + 49.9% Druze @ 1.13
13 81.5% Jew_Ashkenazi + 18.5% Chechen @ 1.18
14 80.2% Sicilian + 19.8% Assyrian @ 1.22
15 86.9% Italian_South + 13.1% Iranian_Shirazi @ 1.23
16 83.5% Sicilian + 16.5% Kurd_C @ 1.24
17 85.2% Sicilian + 14.8% Iranian_Mazandarani @ 1.25
18 80.5% Sicilian + 19.5% Azeri @ 1.27
19 59.3% Druze + 40.7% Croatian @ 1.29
20 80.1% Jew_Ashkenazi + 19.9% Adygei @ 1.3
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% Druze @ 1.092285
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +25% Icelandic +25% Lebanese @ 0.538984
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cypriot + Druze + Jew_Moroccan + Ukrainian @ 0.383436
2 Cypriot + Druze + Jew_Moroccan + Norwegian @ 0.497999
3 Croatian + Cypriot + Italian_South + Syrian @ 0.532939
4 Cypriot + Cypriot + Icelandic + Lebanese @ 0.538984
5 Hungarian + Italian_South + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.556780
6 Cypriot + Cypriot + Lebanese + Lithuanian @ 0.562817
7 Greek + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Tunisian + Romanian @ 0.583310
8 Levant_BA + Lezgin + Sicilian + Spanish @ 0.584336
9 Italian_South + Lezgin + Sardinian + Syrian @ 0.599485
10 Cypriot + Cypriot + Lithuanian + Palestinian @ 0.616808
11 Albanian + Bulgarian + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Moroccan @ 0.632952
12 Cypriot + Druze + Europe_LNBA + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.648844
13 Cypriot + Greek + Romanian + Syrian @ 0.656249
14 Bulgarian + Georgian + Jew_Yemenite + Spanish @ 0.656985
15 Cypriot + Cypriot + Europe_LNBA + Lebanese @ 0.665471
16 Albanian + Jew_iraqi + Jew_Tunisian + Romanian @ 0.671159
17 French + Georgian + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.694862
18 Jew_iraqi + Levant_BA + Lithuanian + Sicilian @ 0.698454
19 Cypriot + Druze + Jew_Tunisian + Norwegian @ 0.701543
20 Albanian + Albanian + Georgian + Jew_Libyan @ 0.705270
Hauteville
Elite member
- Messages
- 820
- Reaction score
- 163
- Points
- 0
- Ethnic group
- Italian
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- I-S185
- mtDNA haplogroup
- U5b2b
Are you full ashkenazi?
Hauteville
Elite member
- Messages
- 820
- Reaction score
- 163
- Points
- 0
- Ethnic group
- Italian
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- I-S185
- mtDNA haplogroup
- U5b2b
Because as always Southern Italians, Sicilians and Greeks are very close with fully Ashkenazis.
Athiudisc
Banned
- Messages
- 212
- Reaction score
- 50
- Points
- 0
- Ethnic group
- North Sea Islander
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1b-L45
- mtDNA haplogroup
- K2b1a
# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.58
2 Natufian 37.78
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.64
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 2.307435
2 French @ 2.344309
3 English @ 3.018956
4 Czech @ 3.134698
5 Croatian @ 3.152654
6 Scottish @ 4.375124
7 Ukrainian @ 4.858283
8 Norwegian @ 5.029130
9 Icelandic @ 6.683311
10 Spanish @ 6.907271
11 Romanian @ 7.050628
12 Europe_LNBA @ 7.796211
13 Bulgarian @ 8.954685
14 Basque @ 9.539541
15 Estonian @ 10.341499
16 Lithuanian @ 10.867014
17 Russian @ 13.062507
18 Albanian @ 13.449377
19 Steppe_MLBA @ 13.517478
20 Finnish @ 13.686509
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Croatian +50% English @ 1.122129
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Icelandic +25% Icelandic +25% Italian_South @ 1.062358
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Albanian + French + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 0.874256
2 Albanian + English + English + Icelandic @ 0.899158
3 French + Greek + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 0.966205
4 Albanian + Czech + English + Icelandic @ 1.026421
5 Albanian + Europe_LNBA + French + Icelandic @ 1.029222
6 Icelandic + Icelandic + Icelandic + Italian_South @ 1.062358
7 Albanian + English + English + Europe_LNBA @ 1.064542
8 English + Greek + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 1.078781
9 Albanian + English + Icelandic + Scottish @ 1.099248
10 Albanian + English + Icelandic + Norwegian @ 1.106835
11 Albanian + English + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 1.112116
12 Albanian + French + Icelandic + Norwegian @ 1.113339
13 Croatian + Croatian + English + English @ 1.122129
14 English + English + Greek + Icelandic @ 1.148729
15 Europe_LNBA + French + Greek + Icelandic @ 1.162690
16 French + Icelandic + Italian_South + Lithuanian @ 1.168102
17 English + French + Greek + Lithuanian @ 1.175619
18 English + English + English + Romanian @ 1.176878
19 Albanian + English + French + Lithuanian @ 1.177063
20 Bulgarian + English + English + English @ 1.186208
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.58
2 Natufian 37.78
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.64
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 2.307435
2 French @ 2.344309
3 English @ 3.018956
4 Czech @ 3.134698
5 Croatian @ 3.152654
6 Scottish @ 4.375124
7 Ukrainian @ 4.858283
8 Norwegian @ 5.029130
9 Icelandic @ 6.683311
10 Spanish @ 6.907271
11 Romanian @ 7.050628
12 Europe_LNBA @ 7.796211
13 Bulgarian @ 8.954685
14 Basque @ 9.539541
15 Estonian @ 10.341499
16 Lithuanian @ 10.867014
17 Russian @ 13.062507
18 Albanian @ 13.449377
19 Steppe_MLBA @ 13.517478
20 Finnish @ 13.686509
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Croatian +50% English @ 1.122129
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Icelandic +25% Icelandic +25% Italian_South @ 1.062358
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Albanian + French + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 0.874256
2 Albanian + English + English + Icelandic @ 0.899158
3 French + Greek + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 0.966205
4 Albanian + Czech + English + Icelandic @ 1.026421
5 Albanian + Europe_LNBA + French + Icelandic @ 1.029222
6 Icelandic + Icelandic + Icelandic + Italian_South @ 1.062358
7 Albanian + English + English + Europe_LNBA @ 1.064542
8 English + Greek + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 1.078781
9 Albanian + English + Icelandic + Scottish @ 1.099248
10 Albanian + English + Icelandic + Norwegian @ 1.106835
11 Albanian + English + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 1.112116
12 Albanian + French + Icelandic + Norwegian @ 1.113339
13 Croatian + Croatian + English + English @ 1.122129
14 English + English + Greek + Icelandic @ 1.148729
15 Europe_LNBA + French + Greek + Icelandic @ 1.162690
16 French + Icelandic + Italian_South + Lithuanian @ 1.168102
17 English + French + Greek + Lithuanian @ 1.175619
18 English + English + English + Romanian @ 1.176878
19 Albanian + English + French + Lithuanian @ 1.177063
20 Bulgarian + English + English + English @ 1.186208
Angela
Veteran member
- Messages
- 21,793
- Reaction score
- 12,345
- Points
- 113
- Ethnic group
- Italian
@John Doe and Hauteville
This is interesting, don't you think?
"2 63.3% Greek + 36.7% Lebanese @ 1.07
3 66% Greek + 34% Palestinian @ 1.08
4 65.1% Greek + 34.9% Jordanian @ 1.26
5 75.4% Sicilian + 24.6% Syrian @ 1.28"
That 60/40 southern European/Levant split has been proposed in academic analyses too.
Those are darn good fits.
With FTDNA you get the same split, and also the reverse, which, again, some academicians have proposed.
"6 65.1% Greek + 34.9% Lebanese @ 1.08
7 63.1% Druze + 36.9% French @ 1.08"
This seems better than others I've seen, but is there any reason why he has no North Italian or Tuscan reference samples? It's useless like this for us.
This is interesting, don't you think?
"2 63.3% Greek + 36.7% Lebanese @ 1.07
3 66% Greek + 34% Palestinian @ 1.08
4 65.1% Greek + 34.9% Jordanian @ 1.26
5 75.4% Sicilian + 24.6% Syrian @ 1.28"
That 60/40 southern European/Levant split has been proposed in academic analyses too.
Those are darn good fits.
With FTDNA you get the same split, and also the reverse, which, again, some academicians have proposed.
"6 65.1% Greek + 34.9% Lebanese @ 1.08
7 63.1% Druze + 36.9% French @ 1.08"
This seems better than others I've seen, but is there any reason why he has no North Italian or Tuscan reference samples? It's useless like this for us.
Twilight
Regular Member
- Messages
- 1,000
- Reaction score
- 124
- Points
- 63
- Location
- Clinton, Washington
- Ethnic group
- 15/32 British, 5/32 German, 9/64 Irish, 1/8 Scots Gaelic, 5/64 French, 1/32 Welsh
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1b-U152-Z56-BY56073
- mtDNA haplogroup
- J1c7a36
Not bad, although it looks like GedrosiaDNA left out ENF samples. 
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[h=2]Ancient Eurasia K6 Oracle results:[/h]gedrosia K6 Oracle
Kit M174504
Admix Results (sorted):
[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]West_European_Hunter_Gartherer[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]45.4[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Natufian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]35.22[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Ancestral_North_Eurasian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]19.17[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Sub_Saharan[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.2[/TD]
Single Population Sharing:
[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] Distance [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Czech[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.26[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.34[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Scottish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.89[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Norwegian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.1[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Ukrainian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.73[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Hungarian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.49[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.61[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]French[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.4[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Europe_LNBA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.71[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Croatian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]6.05[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Estonian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]7.43[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Lithuanian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]7.82[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Spanish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]9.61[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Romanian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]9.98[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Basque[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]10.24[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Russian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]11.08[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Finnish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]11.41[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Steppe_MLBA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]11.74[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Bulgarian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]11.77[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Albanian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]16.53[/TD]
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"] Primary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"] Secondary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] Distance [/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]88%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Basque[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]12%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.52[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]98.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]1.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.62[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]86.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]13.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.63[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]98.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]1.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]AG2[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.67[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]98.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]1.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]AG3[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.67[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]98.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]1.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]MA1[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.67[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]83.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]16.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Greek[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]96.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]3.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Steppe_EMBA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.73[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]90.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]9.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Cypriot[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.73[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]82.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]17.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Albanian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.74[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]85.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]14.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Sicilian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.77[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]92.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Levant_BA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.82[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]91.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]8.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Steppe_MLBA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.83[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]88.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]11.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Jew_Moroccan[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.86[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]91.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]8.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Druze[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]86.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]13.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Jew_Ashkenazi[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.91[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]92.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Jew_Yemenite[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.93[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]97.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]2.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Steppe_Eneolithic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.94[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]66.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]33.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Norwegian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.96[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]69.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Norwegian[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]30.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]French[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.96
[/TD]
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[h=2]Ancient Eurasia K6 Oracle results:[/h]gedrosia K6 Oracle
Kit M174504
Admix Results (sorted):
| Population |
[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]West_European_Hunter_Gartherer[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]45.4[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Natufian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]35.22[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Ancestral_North_Eurasian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]19.17[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Sub_Saharan[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.2[/TD]
Single Population Sharing:
| Population (source) |
[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] Distance [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Czech[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.26[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.34[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Scottish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.89[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Norwegian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.1[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Ukrainian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.73[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Hungarian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.49[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.61[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]French[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.4[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Europe_LNBA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.71[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Croatian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]6.05[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Estonian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]7.43[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Lithuanian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]7.82[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Spanish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]9.61[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Romanian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]9.98[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Basque[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]10.24[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Russian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]11.08[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Finnish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]11.41[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Steppe_MLBA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]11.74[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Bulgarian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]11.77[/TD]
[TD="width: 40, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Albanian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]16.53[/TD]
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
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[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"] Primary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"] Secondary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] Distance [/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]88%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Basque[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]12%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.52[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]98.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]1.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]EHG[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.62[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]86.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]13.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.63[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]98.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]1.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]AG2[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.67[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]98.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]1.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]AG3[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.67[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]98.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]1.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]MA1[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.67[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]83.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]16.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Greek[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]96.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]3.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Steppe_EMBA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.73[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]90.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]9.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Cypriot[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.73[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]82.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]17.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Albanian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.74[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]85.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]14.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Sicilian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.77[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]92.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Levant_BA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.82[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]91.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]8.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Steppe_MLBA[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.83[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]88.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]11.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Jew_Moroccan[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.86[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]91.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]8.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Druze[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]86.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]13.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Jew_Ashkenazi[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.91[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]92.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Icelandic[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Jew_Yemenite[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.93[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]97.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]2.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Steppe_Eneolithic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.94[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]66.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]English[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]33.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Norwegian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.96[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]69.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Norwegian[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]30.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]French[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.96
[/TD]
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I've also noticed that I almost always get these type of results. As for the lack of Tuscan or North Italian samples, I don't know why that is, I think other calculators have Tuscan and N Italian samples though.
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Yeah it looks like the recent study of Xue et al. Anyway there is the lack of many populations for his Oracle, not just Tuscans and North Italians but even Portuguese, Germans, Austrians, Islander and Anatolian Greeks and other Euro ethnicities.
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If you ran the program, you must have seen this:
"For a discussion on the various ancient genomes used here, please refer to the following papers:
Clones of various ancients were utilized to help form some of the clusters, and make results somewhat consistent with results obtained using formal methods such as qpAdm.
A brief description of the calculator's components:
Ancestral North Eurasian (ANE): Upper-Paleolithic genomes from the Lake Baikal region of Siberia, identified as Malta, Afontogora 2, and Afontogora 3, dated to 17 to 24 kya, when Mammoths roamed the area, form the ANE cluster.
Ancestral South Eurasian (ASE): This component is maximized in the Andamanese and Australian Aboriginals. These Eastern non-Africans are believed to have split from other out-of-African populations over 50 kya, and some related populations (ASI), are believed to have played a role in the ethnogenisis of South Asians.
E Asian: This component is maximized in groups such as the Han and Dai.
Natufian: This was an Epipaleolithic culture that existed from 12,500 to 9,500 BC in the area of Israel. They were derived about 50% from an original Out-of-Africa population, referred to as Basal Eurasians. If you are a European and show Natufian admixture, this does not imply that Natufians interacted with your ancestors. All it means is that Natufian like admixture was mediated to you via intermediaries, such as the early European Farmers from the Near East.
Western European Hunter Gatherers (WHG): This component maximizes in ancient samples known as Villabruna, La Brana, Bichon, Loschbour, and Hungarian KO1, also collectively referred to as WHG.
Sub-Saharan: Various African populations such as Yoruba and Esan were used to source the allele frequencies for this component."
So, ANE would have come to you with EHG, CHG in both Anatolians and Indo-Europeans, etc.
Natufian would have come into Europe with Anatolian farmers, and also some Copper Age movements, depending on the area in Europe, and also a little bit with Indo-Europeans, given they picked up some "Old Europe" ancestry.
Some Northwestern Europeans are getting 38,39. I would bet more central European types like central/southern Germans, Austrians, Hungarians, will get 40 or slightly above.
Southern Europeans will get mid-to-high 40s to 50, 51, which makes perfect sense.
It's very helpful that he gave this explanation.
"For a discussion on the various ancient genomes used here, please refer to the following papers:
- The genetic structure of the world's first farmers, Lazaridis et al, 2016. http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/06/16/059311
- The genetic history of Ice Age Europe, Fu et al, 2016, http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v534/n7606/full/nature17993.html
- Early Neolithic genomes from the eastern Fertile Crescent, Broushaki et al, 2016, http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2016/07/13/science.aaf7943<
Clones of various ancients were utilized to help form some of the clusters, and make results somewhat consistent with results obtained using formal methods such as qpAdm.
A brief description of the calculator's components:
Ancestral North Eurasian (ANE): Upper-Paleolithic genomes from the Lake Baikal region of Siberia, identified as Malta, Afontogora 2, and Afontogora 3, dated to 17 to 24 kya, when Mammoths roamed the area, form the ANE cluster.
Ancestral South Eurasian (ASE): This component is maximized in the Andamanese and Australian Aboriginals. These Eastern non-Africans are believed to have split from other out-of-African populations over 50 kya, and some related populations (ASI), are believed to have played a role in the ethnogenisis of South Asians.
E Asian: This component is maximized in groups such as the Han and Dai.
Natufian: This was an Epipaleolithic culture that existed from 12,500 to 9,500 BC in the area of Israel. They were derived about 50% from an original Out-of-Africa population, referred to as Basal Eurasians. If you are a European and show Natufian admixture, this does not imply that Natufians interacted with your ancestors. All it means is that Natufian like admixture was mediated to you via intermediaries, such as the early European Farmers from the Near East.
Western European Hunter Gatherers (WHG): This component maximizes in ancient samples known as Villabruna, La Brana, Bichon, Loschbour, and Hungarian KO1, also collectively referred to as WHG.
Sub-Saharan: Various African populations such as Yoruba and Esan were used to source the allele frequencies for this component."
So, ANE would have come to you with EHG, CHG in both Anatolians and Indo-Europeans, etc.
Natufian would have come into Europe with Anatolian farmers, and also some Copper Age movements, depending on the area in Europe, and also a little bit with Indo-Europeans, given they picked up some "Old Europe" ancestry.
Some Northwestern Europeans are getting 38,39. I would bet more central European types like central/southern Germans, Austrians, Hungarians, will get 40 or slightly above.
Southern Europeans will get mid-to-high 40s to 50, 51, which makes perfect sense.
It's very helpful that he gave this explanation.
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That makes sense, thanks!
Oh and hauteville + angela, jews are .5 Levantine .35 south euro .15 west and euro by the Xue study, not 60-40 south euro-Levantine. Sorry for digressing from the topic.
Oh and hauteville + angela, jews are .5 Levantine .35 south euro .15 west and euro by the Xue study, not 60-40 south euro-Levantine. Sorry for digressing from the topic.
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What about Mesolithic Anatolian/Zagros Mountain tribes, are they included into the Natufian samples?
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Muslim Levanties are a bad reference for Iron age Jews because they have extra African ancestry. Religious minorities like Druze and Samartians and Christians are better references. Muslims still can work though.
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The program has pin-pointed myself in the 4 population ...........
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Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 43.33
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 35.70
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.66
Finished reading population data. 136 populations found.
6 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 2.735283
2 Romanian @ 3.874132
3 Albanian @ 4.668196
4 Greek @ 5.597648
5 Croatian @ 7.277499
6 Sicilian @ 8.948083
7 Spanish @ 9.762009
8 Italian_South @ 10.042373
9 Hungarian @ 10.336728
10 French @ 10.653173
11 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 11.233868
12 Czech @ 12.551389
13 English @ 12.764177
14 Ukrainian @ 13.358443
15 Scottish @ 13.787315
16 Norwegian @ 14.155935
17 Jew_Moroccan @ 15.594926
18 Armenia_ChL @ 15.976079
19 Icelandic @ 16.279020
20 Basque @ 16.574711
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +50% Lithuanian @ 1.804555
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French +25% Georgian +25% Spanish @ 1.297227
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Anatolia_N + EHG + Europe_EN + Europe_EN @ 0.000000
2 Basque + Georgian + Greek + Icelandic @ 0.914001
I can stop looking for my ancient ancestors!
gedrosia K6 Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 43.33
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 35.70
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.66
Finished reading population data. 136 populations found.
6 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 2.735283
2 Romanian @ 3.874132
3 Albanian @ 4.668196
4 Greek @ 5.597648
5 Croatian @ 7.277499
6 Sicilian @ 8.948083
7 Spanish @ 9.762009
8 Italian_South @ 10.042373
9 Hungarian @ 10.336728
10 French @ 10.653173
11 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 11.233868
12 Czech @ 12.551389
13 English @ 12.764177
14 Ukrainian @ 13.358443
15 Scottish @ 13.787315
16 Norwegian @ 14.155935
17 Jew_Moroccan @ 15.594926
18 Armenia_ChL @ 15.976079
19 Icelandic @ 16.279020
20 Basque @ 16.574711
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +50% Lithuanian @ 1.804555
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French +25% Georgian +25% Spanish @ 1.297227
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Anatolia_N + EHG + Europe_EN + Europe_EN @ 0.000000
2 Basque + Georgian + Greek + Icelandic @ 0.914001
I can stop looking for my ancient ancestors!
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Actually Muslims and Christian Levantines are genetically very similar if you look at the spreadsheets. I think Samaritans are the better proxy though.
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My results. This is an impressive test but an important piece it is missing is a CHG/Iran_Neo ancestor. CHG/Iran_Neo wasn't a Natufian+ANE mix. Until we figure out what Basal Eurasian is and what the non-Basal Eurasian side of Stone age Middle Easterners was, I don't fully trust any of these tests that attempt to deceiver that. The numbers are probably mostly correct but the ancestor proxies are definitly not mostly correct. This test is claiming Neolithic Anatolains were Natufian+WHG, which they definitly were not. Maybe they were Natufian-distant relative+WHG-distant relative.
We have an incredible collection of ancient European and Middle Eastern genomes. All modern day West Eurasians can be explained well as a mixture of Paleo/Early Neo West Eurasian genomes. That's how good of a collection we have. ADMIXTURE tests should stick to those ancestors and not try to predicte who the unsampled Upper Paleolithic ancestors were.
There's WHG-like ancestry in all four of the ancestors of modern Westy Eurasians, but that WHG-like ancestor wasn't WHG. WHG of Western Europe was a very drifted population with no one like them anywhere else in the world. The huge WHG numbers in so many ADMIXTURE tests is decphing. Actual Western European WHG ancestry percentages peak probably at just 15-20% in Lithuania. WHG of Western Europe were essentially wiped out. Most of the WHG-like ancestry in modern Europeans is from EEF and EHG. Over 70% of the ancestor of all Europeans is from Neolithic Anatolia(EEF) and Mesolithic Russia(EHG).
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 15.17
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.77
East_Asian 2.65
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 41.71
Natufian 37.53
Sub_Saharan 2.17
1 71.7% Spanish + 28.3% Russian @ 1.42
2 73.2% Spanish + 26.8% Finnish @ 1.78
3 75.7% Jew_Ashkenazi + 24.3% Motala12 @ 2.28
4 91.5% Hungarian + 8.5% Saharawi @ 2.31
5 60.1% Levant_BA + 39.9% SHG @ 2.33
6 90.6% Hungarian + 9.4% Algerian @ 2.37
7 75.1% Jew_Ashkenazi + 24.9% SHG @ 2.4
8 85.7% Spanish + 14.3% Steppe_IA @ 2.51
9 96.5% French + 3.5% Cambodian @ 2.51
10 80.9% Basque + 19.1% Tajik @ 2.55
11 91.7% Hungarian + 8.3% Moroccan @ 2.57
12 95.4% French + 4.6% Somali @ 2.57
13 96.3% French + 3.7% Sherpa @ 2.57
14 69.9% Jew_Tunisian + 30.1% Motala12 @ 2.59
15 96.8% French + 3.2% Tibetan @ 2.59
16 96.1% French + 3.9% Kusunda @ 2.59
17 60.9% Levant_BA + 39.1% Motala12 @ 2.6
18 97% French + 3% Ami @ 2.61
19 96.9% French + 3.1% Mongola @ 2.62
20 97% French + 3% Han @ 2.62
We have an incredible collection of ancient European and Middle Eastern genomes. All modern day West Eurasians can be explained well as a mixture of Paleo/Early Neo West Eurasian genomes. That's how good of a collection we have. ADMIXTURE tests should stick to those ancestors and not try to predicte who the unsampled Upper Paleolithic ancestors were.
There's WHG-like ancestry in all four of the ancestors of modern Westy Eurasians, but that WHG-like ancestor wasn't WHG. WHG of Western Europe was a very drifted population with no one like them anywhere else in the world. The huge WHG numbers in so many ADMIXTURE tests is decphing. Actual Western European WHG ancestry percentages peak probably at just 15-20% in Lithuania. WHG of Western Europe were essentially wiped out. Most of the WHG-like ancestry in modern Europeans is from EEF and EHG. Over 70% of the ancestor of all Europeans is from Neolithic Anatolia(EEF) and Mesolithic Russia(EHG).
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 15.17
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.77
East_Asian 2.65
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 41.71
Natufian 37.53
Sub_Saharan 2.17
1 71.7% Spanish + 28.3% Russian @ 1.42
2 73.2% Spanish + 26.8% Finnish @ 1.78
3 75.7% Jew_Ashkenazi + 24.3% Motala12 @ 2.28
4 91.5% Hungarian + 8.5% Saharawi @ 2.31
5 60.1% Levant_BA + 39.9% SHG @ 2.33
6 90.6% Hungarian + 9.4% Algerian @ 2.37
7 75.1% Jew_Ashkenazi + 24.9% SHG @ 2.4
8 85.7% Spanish + 14.3% Steppe_IA @ 2.51
9 96.5% French + 3.5% Cambodian @ 2.51
10 80.9% Basque + 19.1% Tajik @ 2.55
11 91.7% Hungarian + 8.3% Moroccan @ 2.57
12 95.4% French + 4.6% Somali @ 2.57
13 96.3% French + 3.7% Sherpa @ 2.57
14 69.9% Jew_Tunisian + 30.1% Motala12 @ 2.59
15 96.8% French + 3.2% Tibetan @ 2.59
16 96.1% French + 3.9% Kusunda @ 2.59
17 60.9% Levant_BA + 39.1% Motala12 @ 2.6
18 97% French + 3% Ami @ 2.61
19 96.9% French + 3.1% Mongola @ 2.62
20 97% French + 3% Han @ 2.62
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Here we go.
Italian (north)
Population - Father's / Mother's / Mine - 23andMe / Mine - FTDNA
Ancestral_North_Eurasian - 18.51 / 19.49 / 20.75 / 20.52
Ancestral_South_Eurasian - 1.00 / 0 / 0 / 0
East_Asian - 0 / 0.11 / 0 / 0
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer - 35.72 / 37.37 / 34.63 / 35.10
Natufian - 44.78 / 42.46 / 44.53 / 44.38
Sub_Saharan - 0 / 0.57 / 0.08 / 0
1 Bulgarian 2.99 / Romanian 2.16 / Albanian 3.57 / Bulgarian 3.45
2 Albanian / Bulgarian / Bulgarian / Albanian
3 Romanian / Croatian / Greek / Greek
4 Greek / Albanian / Romanian / Romanian
5 Croatian / Greek / Sicilian / Sicilian
Italian (north)
Population - Father's / Mother's / Mine - 23andMe / Mine - FTDNA
Ancestral_North_Eurasian - 18.51 / 19.49 / 20.75 / 20.52
Ancestral_South_Eurasian - 1.00 / 0 / 0 / 0
East_Asian - 0 / 0.11 / 0 / 0
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer - 35.72 / 37.37 / 34.63 / 35.10
Natufian - 44.78 / 42.46 / 44.53 / 44.38
Sub_Saharan - 0 / 0.57 / 0.08 / 0
1 Bulgarian 2.99 / Romanian 2.16 / Albanian 3.57 / Bulgarian 3.45
2 Albanian / Bulgarian / Bulgarian / Albanian
3 Romanian / Croatian / Greek / Greek
4 Greek / Albanian / Romanian / Romanian
5 Croatian / Greek / Sicilian / Sicilian