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Ancient genomes from Mesolithic & Neolithic France (Rivollat et al. 2020)

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There's a second paper (Rivollat et al. 2020) about ancient France.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/bioproject/629712

Ancient genome-wide DNA from France highlights the complexity of interactions between Mesolithic hunter-gatherers and Neolithic farmers

"Starting from 12,000 years ago in the Middle East, the Neolithic lifestyle spread across Europe via separate continental and Mediterranean routes, which eventually overlapped in western Europe. Genomes from early European farmers have shown a clear Near Eastern/Anatolian genetic affinity with limited contribution from hunter-gatherers. However, no genomic data is available from modern-day France, where both routes converged, as evidenced by a mosaic cultural pattern. Here we present new genome-wide data from 101 individuals from 12 sites covering today’s France and Germany from the Mesolithic (N=3) to the Neolithic (N=98) (7000-3000 BCE). Using the genetic substructure observed in European hunter-gatherers, we characterise diverse patterns of admixture in different regions, consistent with both routes of expansion. Western early European farmers show a higher proportion of distinctly western hunter-gatherer ancestry compared to central/south-eastern farmers. Our data highlight the complexity of the biological interactions during the Neolithic expansion by revealing major regional variations."
 
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It looks "open". See:
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/22/eaaz5344
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great :good_job:
from supplementary table ( and another forum ):good_job:

Ancient genome-wide DNA from France highlights the complexity of interactions between Mesolithic hunter-gatherers and Neolithic farmers (2020) - https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/22/eaaz5344

HBS009 Halberstadt Saxony-Anhalt, Germany 269448 G2a2b2a1 H27+16093

LBR001 4896-4713 (5920±35; LTL-18523A) Les Bréguières Alpes-Maritimes, France 706259 I2a1b1a1b H1

LBR002 5120-4820 (6104±45; LTL-8482A) Les Bréguières Alpes-Maritimes, France 673315 I2a1b1a1b U5b2b3

LBR003 5032-4747 (5864±45; LTL-12315A) Les Bréguières Alpes-Maritimes, France 681999 HV0+195

LBR004 5032-4778 (5964±45; LTL-12316A) Les Bréguières Alpes-Maritimes, France 661147 U8a1

LBR005 5369-4979 (6151±45; LTL-13784A) Les Bréguières Alpes-Maritimes, France 802178 I2a1b K1a2b

OBN001 4766-4550 (5809±33; OxA-30277) Obernai Bas-Rhin, France 254268 U5b1a

OBN002 Obernai Bas-Rhin, France 427707 V

OBN003 4689-4504 (5744±33; OxA-30278) Obernai Bas-Rhin, France 614024 K1a1b1

OBN004 4681-4499 (5732±25; LTL-18525A) Obernai Bas-Rhin, France 520627 I2a1a2 K1a2b

OBN005 5007-4847 (6044±25; LTL-18526A) Obernai Bas-Rhin, France 450687 I2a1a2 V

OBN006 5208-4986 (6124±25; LTL-18527A) Obernai Bas-Rhin, France 544288 C1a2b N1a1a1

OBN007 4518-4350 (5601±45; LTL-18528A) Obernai Bas-Rhin, France 562899 I2a1a2 K1

OBN008 4688-4505 (5743±30; SUERC-52378) Obernai Bas-Rhin, France 858566 HV+16311

OBN009 4521-4369 (5628±25; LTL-18529A) Obernai Bas-Rhin, France 686391 T2b4

OBN010 Obernai Bas-Rhin, France 635896 H45

OBN011 4886-4533 (5749±25; LTL-18531A) Obernai Bas-Rhin, France 570197 I2a1a2 H2a2?

PEN001_real1 5480-5370 (6445±40; GrA-26893) Pendimoun Alpes-Maritimes, France 961797 K1a1b1

PEN001_real2 5480-5360 (6440±40; GrA-26894) Pendimoun Alpes-Maritimes, France 712527 HV0+195

PEN003 5480-5337 (6450±40; GrA-32061) Pendimoun Alpes-Maritimes, France 699056 I2a1a2 J1c3

PRI001 4340-4171 (5406±32; OxA-15063) Prissé-la-Charrière Deux-Sèvres, France 600895 I2a1a2a X2b+226

PRI005 Prissé-la-Charrière Deux-Sèvres, France 57534 H3

PRI006 Prissé-la-Charrière Deux-Sèvres, France 387413 H3

SCH001 Schwetzingen Baden-Württemberg, Germany 64527 H2a2a1

SCH004 Schwetzingen Baden-Württemberg, Germany 18258 CT N1a1a1

SCH007 Schwetzingen Baden-Württemberg, Germany 122974 T

SCH009 Schwetzingen Baden-Württemberg, Germany 242640 H2a2a1

SCH010 Schwetzingen Baden-Württemberg, Germany 295055 H2a2a1

SCH011 Schwetzingen Baden-Württemberg, Germany 30435 CT H2a2a1

SCH014 Schwetzingen Baden-Württemberg, Germany 340435 T2

SCH015 Schwetzingen Baden-Württemberg, Germany 31103 H2a2a1

SCH016 5300-5040 (6202±36; OxA-23206) Schwetzingen Baden-Württemberg, Germany 288685 C1a2b H2a

SCH018 5220-4980 (6141±37; OxA-23211) Schwetzingen Baden-Württemberg, Germany 35343 NA K1a

SMH004 5296-5070 (6222±25; MAMS-36741) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 289574 T2c1

TGM008 3333-2944 (4448±28; MAMS-41245) Tangermünde Saxony-Anhalt, Germany 13864 NA -

TGM009 3369-3109 (4556±26; MAMS-41243) Tangermünde Saxony-Anhalt, Germany 707588 I2a2a1b JT

XN164 5294-5068 (6219±25; MAMS-36728) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 374080 H2 J1c5

XN165 5291-5063 (6213±24; MAMS-36725) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 456820 H2 N1a1a1

XN166 Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II Baden-Württemberg, Germany 335534 K1a+195

XN167 5310-5079 (6250±30; MAMS-36743) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 425618 H2 H

XN168 5288-5060 (6209±24; MAMS-36734) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 278543 H2 N1a1a1a3

XN169 5222-5054 (6195±25; MAMS-36726) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 384986 T2b23

XN170 5207-4985 (6123±26; MAMS-36730) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 335877 H2 H

XN171 5293-5066 (6217±25; MAMS-36729) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 473002 H2 H1

XN172 5292-5064 (6214±25; MAMS-36732) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 413973 H

XN173 5211-5013 (6155±31; MAMS-25933) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II Baden-Württemberg, Germany 153489 H2 U5a2d

XN174 4987-4711 (6100±70; Hd-8031, 5950±60; Hd-7974, 5910±50; Hd-7935) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 248622 H2 H26

XN175 5287-5059 (6208±24; MAMS-36740) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 367161 H1

XN178 Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II Baden-Württemberg, Germany 47983 N1a1a1a

XN180 5216-5022 (6169±33; MAMS-36745) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 194180 H2 N1a1a1a

XN182 5301-5049 (6210±45; Hd-7979. 6130±45; Hd-7977) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 124751 K1a1

XN183 5302-5077 (6236±25; MAMS-36736) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 122353 N1a1a1a2

XN188 5299-5073 (6228±25; MAMS-36735) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 246068 J1c17

XN191 5317-5209 (6267±30; MAMS-25931) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II Baden-Württemberg, Germany 24806 NA I1

XN205 Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II Baden-Württemberg, Germany 76722 N1a1a1

XN206 5285-5054 (6202±25; MAMS-36738) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 35730 F K2a

XN207 Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II Baden-Württemberg, Germany 162894 J1c

XN211 5213-5040 (6165±25; MAMS-36733) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 68478 N1a1a1a

XN215 5206-4951 (6115±25; MAMS-36727) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I Baden-Württemberg, Germany 35560 F N1a1a1

XN224 5290-5056 (6207±25; MAMS-36744) Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II Baden-Württemberg, Germany 35543 K2a

XN225 Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II Baden-Württemberg, Germany 132403 H2 H
 
I have reorganised the Excel table S1 to read the haplogroups more easily. Neolithic Stuttgart stands out by being entirely composed of Y-haplogroups F and H2 ! No G2a at all! Just on the other side of the Rhine in Alsace, Neolithic tribes were almost completely I2a1 (with one C1a2). Can this be explained by high rates of polygamy among local chieftains? That goes against the common idea of egalitarianism among Neolithic farmers.

[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Sample[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Y-DNA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]mtDNA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Date (cal BCE)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Site[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Region, country[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BDB001[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U4b1b1[/TD]
[TD]7060-6611[/TD]
[TD]Bad Dürrenberg[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BOT004[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD]5555-5497[/TD]
[TD]Bottendorf[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BOT005[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD]5636-5572[/TD]
[TD]Bottendorf[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR001[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5b2b3a[/TD]
[TD]4345-4275[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR002[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J2b1a[/TD]
[TD]4045-3965[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR003[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J2a1a1[/TD]
[TD]4630-4495[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR004[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1b1[/TD]
[TD]4675-4490[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR005[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c1b1[/TD]
[TD]4365-4330[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR007[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2a1a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5b1c[/TD]
[TD]4445-4335[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR010[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T2c1d+152[/TD]
[TD]4450-4340[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR013[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J2b1d[/TD]
[TD]4540-4405[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR014[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a[/TD]
[TD]4540-4405[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG003[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a+195[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG008[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]
U5b1+16189
+@16192​
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG015[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c1b[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG016[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1a[/TD]
[TD]4539-4367[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG018[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5b3[/TD]
[TD]4765-4540[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG019[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]V[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG021[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H3+152[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG022[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a1b1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG023[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J2b1a[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG025[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a3a[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG027[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H1[/TD]
[TD]4829-4623[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG028[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]X2b+226[/TD]
[TD]4795-4616[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG032[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a+195[/TD]
[TD]4316-3984[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG035[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H1+152[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG041[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG043[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H+152[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG047[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U8b1b[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG049[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a2c[/TD]
[TD]4772-4662[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG050[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5b1c[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG052[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c1b[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG056[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H26[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG057[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H1[/TD]
[TD]4784-4546[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS002[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2a1[/TD]
[TD]5207-4855[/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS004[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a4a1e[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS005[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS006[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS007[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2[/TD]
[TD]5212-4961[/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS008[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS009[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H27+16093[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]LBR001[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1b1a1b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H1[/TD]
[TD]4896-4713[/TD]
[TD]Les Bréguières[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]LBR002[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1b1a1b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5b2b3[/TD]
[TD]5120-4820[/TD]
[TD]Les Bréguières[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]LBR003[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]HV0+195[/TD]
[TD]5032-4747[/TD]
[TD]Les Bréguières[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]LBR004[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U8a1[/TD]
[TD]5032-4778[/TD]
[TD]Les Bréguières[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]LBR005[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a2b[/TD]
[TD]5369-4979[/TD]
[TD]Les Bréguières[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN001[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5b1a[/TD]
[TD]4766-4550[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN002[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]V[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN003[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a1b1[/TD]
[TD]4689-4504[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN004[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1a2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a2b[/TD]
[TD]4681-4499[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN005[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1a2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]V[/TD]
[TD]5007-4847[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN006[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]C1a2b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1[/TD]
[TD]5208-4986[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN007[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1a2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1[/TD]
[TD]4518-4350[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN008[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]HV+16311[/TD]
[TD]4688-4505[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN009[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T2b4[/TD]
[TD]4521-4369[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN010[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H45[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN011[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1a2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2?[/TD]
[TD]4886-4533[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PEN001_real1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a1b1[/TD]
[TD]5480-5370[/TD]
[TD]Pendimoun[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PEN001_real2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]HV0+195[/TD]
[TD]5480-5360[/TD]
[TD]Pendimoun[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PEN003[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1a2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c3[/TD]
[TD]5480-5337[/TD]
[TD]Pendimoun[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PRI001[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1a2a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]X2b+226[/TD]
[TD]4340-4171[/TD]
[TD]Prissé-la-Charrière[/TD]
[TD]Deux-Sèvres, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PRI005[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Prissé-la-Charrière[/TD]
[TD]Deux-Sèvres, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PRI006[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Prissé-la-Charrière[/TD]
[TD]Deux-Sèvres, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH001[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH004[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]CT[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH007[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH009[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH010[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH011[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]CT[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH014[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH015[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH016[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]C1a2b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a[/TD]
[TD]5300-5040[/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH018[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]NA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a[/TD]
[TD]5220-4980[/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SMH004[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T2c1[/TD]
[TD]5296-5070[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]TGM008[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]NA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD]3333-2944[/TD]
[TD]Tangermünde[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]TGM009[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a2a1b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]JT[/TD]
[TD]3369-3109[/TD]
[TD]Tangermünde[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN164[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c5[/TD]
[TD]5294-5068[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN165[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1[/TD]
[TD]5291-5063[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN166[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a+195[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN167[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H[/TD]
[TD]5310-5079[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN168[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1a3[/TD]
[TD]5288-5060[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN169[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T2b23[/TD]
[TD]5222-5054[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN170[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H[/TD]
[TD]5207-4985[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN171[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H1[/TD]
[TD]5293-5066[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN172[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H[/TD]
[TD]5292-5064[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN173[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5a2d[/TD]
[TD]5211-5013[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN174[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H26[/TD]
[TD]4987-4711[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN175[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H1[/TD]
[TD]5287-5059[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN178[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1a[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN180[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1a[/TD]
[TD]5216-5022[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN182[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a1[/TD]
[TD]5301-5049[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN183[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1a2[/TD]
[TD]5302-5077[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN188[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c17[/TD]
[TD]5299-5073[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN191[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]NA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I1[/TD]
[TD]5317-5209[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN205[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN206[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K2a[/TD]
[TD]5285-5054[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN207[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN211[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1a[/TD]
[TD]5213-5040[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN215[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1[/TD]
[TD]5206-4951[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN224[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K2a[/TD]
[TD]5290-5056[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN225[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
The PCA plot of the samples tested in relation with other Mesolithic and Neolithic genomes.

The Stuttgart-Mühlhausen samples (SMH) who were made entirely of Y-haplogroups F and H2 plot within the Neolithic SE Europe and Hungary cluster. On the other hand, the I2a1 + C1a2 group in Obernai, Alsace (OBN) plot within the British Isles and Iberia cluster.
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The QpAdm shows that all Mesolithic genomes from France, Germany and Britain are 100% of the Villabruna type (WHG). In contrast, Iberian Mesolithic samples also have EHG and Goyet Q2.

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Here are various Neolithic European samples. We see that the H2 Stuttgart-Mühlhausen samples (SMH) have very little WHG (about 5%), but the I2a1 Obernai farmers across the Rhine have 20 to 35% of WHG. The I2a2a1b Tangermünde sample (TGM009) from Saxony-Anhalt only has 25% of Anatolia.

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Maciamo said:
I have reorganised the Excel table S1 to read the haplogroups more easily. Neolithic Stuttgart stands out by being entirely composed of Y-haplogroups F and H2 ! No G2a at all! Just on the other side of the Rhine in Alsace, Neolithic tribes were almost completely I2a1 (with one C1a2). Can this be explained by high rates of polygamy among local chieftains? That goes against the common idea of egalitarianism among Neolithic farmers.

[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Sample[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Y-DNA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]mtDNA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Date (cal BCE)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Site[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Region, country[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BDB001[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U4b1b1[/TD]
[TD]7060-6611[/TD]
[TD]Bad Dürrenberg[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BOT004[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD]5555-5497[/TD]
[TD]Bottendorf[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BOT005[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD]5636-5572[/TD]
[TD]Bottendorf[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR001[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5b2b3a[/TD]
[TD]4345-4275[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR002[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J2b1a[/TD]
[TD]4045-3965[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR003[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J2a1a1[/TD]
[TD]4630-4495[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR004[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1b1[/TD]
[TD]4675-4490[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR005[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c1b1[/TD]
[TD]4365-4330[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR007[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2a1a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5b1c[/TD]
[TD]4445-4335[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR010[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T2c1d+152[/TD]
[TD]4450-4340[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR013[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J2b1d[/TD]
[TD]4540-4405[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FLR014[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a[/TD]
[TD]4540-4405[/TD]
[TD]Fleury-sur-Orne[/TD]
[TD]Calvados, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG003[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a+195[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG008[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]
U5b1+16189
+@16192​
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG015[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c1b[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG016[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1a[/TD]
[TD]4539-4367[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG018[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5b3[/TD]
[TD]4765-4540[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG019[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]V[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG021[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H3+152[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG022[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a1b1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG023[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J2b1a[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG025[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a3a[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG027[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H1[/TD]
[TD]4829-4623[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG028[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]X2b+226[/TD]
[TD]4795-4616[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG032[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a+195[/TD]
[TD]4316-3984[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG035[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H1+152[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG041[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG043[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H+152[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG047[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U8b1b[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG049[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a2c[/TD]
[TD]4772-4662[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG050[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5b1c[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG052[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c1b[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG056[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H26[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GRG057[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H1[/TD]
[TD]4784-4546[/TD]
[TD]Gurgy "les Noisats"[/TD]
[TD]Yonne, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS002[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2a1[/TD]
[TD]5207-4855[/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS004[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a4a1e[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS005[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS006[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS007[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2[/TD]
[TD]5212-4961[/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS008[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HBS009[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G2a2b2a1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H27+16093[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Halberstadt[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]LBR001[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1b1a1b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H1[/TD]
[TD]4896-4713[/TD]
[TD]Les Bréguières[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]LBR002[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1b1a1b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5b2b3[/TD]
[TD]5120-4820[/TD]
[TD]Les Bréguières[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]LBR003[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]HV0+195[/TD]
[TD]5032-4747[/TD]
[TD]Les Bréguières[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]LBR004[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U8a1[/TD]
[TD]5032-4778[/TD]
[TD]Les Bréguières[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]LBR005[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a2b[/TD]
[TD]5369-4979[/TD]
[TD]Les Bréguières[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN001[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5b1a[/TD]
[TD]4766-4550[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN002[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]V[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN003[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a1b1[/TD]
[TD]4689-4504[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN004[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1a2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a2b[/TD]
[TD]4681-4499[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN005[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1a2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]V[/TD]
[TD]5007-4847[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN006[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]C1a2b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1[/TD]
[TD]5208-4986[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN007[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1a2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1[/TD]
[TD]4518-4350[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN008[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]HV+16311[/TD]
[TD]4688-4505[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN009[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T2b4[/TD]
[TD]4521-4369[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN010[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H45[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OBN011[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1a2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2?[/TD]
[TD]4886-4533[/TD]
[TD]Obernai[/TD]
[TD]Bas-Rhin, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PEN001_real1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a1b1[/TD]
[TD]5480-5370[/TD]
[TD]Pendimoun[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PEN001_real2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]HV0+195[/TD]
[TD]5480-5360[/TD]
[TD]Pendimoun[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PEN003[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1a2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c3[/TD]
[TD]5480-5337[/TD]
[TD]Pendimoun[/TD]
[TD]Alpes-Maritimes, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PRI001[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a1a2a[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]X2b+226[/TD]
[TD]4340-4171[/TD]
[TD]Prissé-la-Charrière[/TD]
[TD]Deux-Sèvres, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PRI005[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Prissé-la-Charrière[/TD]
[TD]Deux-Sèvres, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PRI006[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Prissé-la-Charrière[/TD]
[TD]Deux-Sèvres, France[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH001[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH004[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]CT[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH007[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH009[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH010[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH011[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]CT[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH014[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH015[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a2a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH016[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]C1a2b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2a[/TD]
[TD]5300-5040[/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCH018[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]NA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a[/TD]
[TD]5220-4980[/TD]
[TD]Schwetzingen[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SMH004[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T2c1[/TD]
[TD]5296-5070[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]TGM008[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]NA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]-[/TD]
[TD]3333-2944[/TD]
[TD]Tangermünde[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]TGM009[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I2a2a1b[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]JT[/TD]
[TD]3369-3109[/TD]
[TD]Tangermünde[/TD]
[TD]Saxony-Anhalt, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN164[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c5[/TD]
[TD]5294-5068[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN165[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1[/TD]
[TD]5291-5063[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN166[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a+195[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN167[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H[/TD]
[TD]5310-5079[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN168[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1a3[/TD]
[TD]5288-5060[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN169[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]T2b23[/TD]
[TD]5222-5054[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN170[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H[/TD]
[TD]5207-4985[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN171[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H1[/TD]
[TD]5293-5066[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN172[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H[/TD]
[TD]5292-5064[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN173[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]U5a2d[/TD]
[TD]5211-5013[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN174[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H26[/TD]
[TD]4987-4711[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN175[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H1[/TD]
[TD]5287-5059[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN178[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1a[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN180[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1a[/TD]
[TD]5216-5022[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN182[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K1a1[/TD]
[TD]5301-5049[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN183[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1a2[/TD]
[TD]5302-5077[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN188[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c17[/TD]
[TD]5299-5073[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN191[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]NA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I1[/TD]
[TD]5317-5209[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN205[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN206[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K2a[/TD]
[TD]5285-5054[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN207[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J1c[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN211[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1a[/TD]
[TD]5213-5040[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN215[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]N1a1a1[/TD]
[TD]5206-4951[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen I[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN224[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]K2a[/TD]
[TD]5290-5056[/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]XN225[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]H[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Stuttgart-Mühlhausen II[/TD]
[TD]Baden-Württemberg, Germany[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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and no( e1b1b1 e-m78 )contrary to the previews paper on france :Ancient genomes from present-day France unveil 7,000 years of its demographic history :thinking:
were in berg site some e-m78 were found :thinking:
 
kingjohn said:
and no( e1b1b1 e-m78 )contrary to the previews paper on france :Ancient genomes from present-day France unveil 7,000 years of its demographic history :thinking:
were in berg site some e-m78 were found :thinking:
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Good point. That shows how ethnically fragmented Neolithic Germany (+ Alsace) was. Some I2a tribes with considerable WHG, some H2 tribes with almost no WHG, other G2a tribes and E1b1b tribes...

The samples from Bergheim (BERG) in Alsace were a blend of E1b1b (x4), I2 (x1) I2a1a2 (x3) and I2a2b1 (x1). Berheim is only 35 km south of Obernai, which didn't have any E1b1b. Of course the period is not exactly the same (5200-4300 BCE for Obernai vs 4300-3600 BCE for Bergheim), so it looks like E1b1b arrived later in the region.
 
Maciamo said:
Good point. That shows how ethnically fragmented Neolithic Germany (+ Alsace) was. Some I2a tribes with considerable WHG, some H2 tribes with almost no WHG, other G2a tribes and E1b1b tribes...

The samples from Bergheim (BERG) in Alsace were a blend of E1b1b (x4), I2 (x1) I2a1a2 (x3) and I2a2b1 (x1). Berheim is only 35 km south of Obernai, which didn't have any E1b1b. Of course the period is not exactly the same (5200-4300 BCE for Obernai vs 4300-3600 BCE for Bergheim), so it looks like E1b1b arrived later in the region.
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It seems confirming that the Y-H2 neolithic men are tightly associated with the Danubian farmers come soon from Anatolia along numerous Y-G2a2a, seen until Normandy Neolithic; Gurgy spite considered as meeting of Danubian and Chassean post-Cardial neolithic people, shows no H2 (or little?), and its G is Y-G2a2b, I suppose it's more Cardial? But Halberstad shows both G2a2 sorts so, we have here only some familial aspect concerning some places (eg Gurgy) ?
 
MOESAN said:
It seems confirming that the Y-H2 neolithic men are tightly associated with the Danubian farmers come soon from Anatolia along numerous Y-G2a2a, seen until Normandy Neolithic; Gurgy spite considered as meeting of Danubian and Chassean post-Cardial neolithic people, shows no H2 (or little?), and its G is Y-G2a2b, I suppose it's more Cardial? But Halberstad shows both G2a2 sorts so, we have here only some familial aspect concerning some places (eg Gurgy) ?
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Do you know if this H2 clade is found in West Asia and/or South Asia?
 
ratchet_fan said:
Do you know if this H2 clade is found in West Asia and/or South Asia?
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I am not too knowledged on the matter.
But I read Y-H2 was rather a neolithic marker of Europe, come with other Y lineages (the most: Y-G2a) from Anatolia. In Sourh Asia, it seems the subclades are rather Y-H1 (few come with Roms into Europe) and Y-H3, even if we could believe H2 came from an upstream lineage from India, perhaps through Iran?.
In ancient DNA it seems (to me) that Y-H2 spite present too in Iberia, was rather a LBK marker (Danubian farmers) than a Cardial one, but I can mistake. ATW it was better represented during Neolithic times than today, when it 's very seldom. I think it's seldom in West Asia too. But other forumers could say more about this stuff. Threads exist here about ancient Sardinia and Sicilia too; I have not read all the stuff, maybe there were some Y-H2 there?
 
MOESAN said:
I am not too knowledged on the matter.
But I read Y-H2 was rather a neolithic marker of Europe, come with other Y lineages (the most: Y-G2a) from Anatolia. In Sourh Asia, it seems the subclades are rather Y-H1 (few come with Roms into Europe) and Y-H3, even if we could believe H2 came from an upstream lineage from India, perhaps through Iran?.
In ancient DNA it seems (to me) that Y-H2 spite present too in Iberia, was rather a LBK marker (Danubian farmers) than a Cardial one, but I can mistake. ATW it was better represented during Neolithic times than today, when it 's very seldom. I think it's seldom in West Asia too. But other forumers could say more about this stuff. Threads exist here about ancient Sardinia and Sicilia too; I have not read all the stuff, maybe there were some Y-H2 there?
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there is a clean split between H2-P96 and HM2826 which is ancestral to both H1 and H3, the Indian clades

https://www.yfull.com/tree/H/
 
fascinating 👍
to which branch of y haplogroup H
Romani in europe belong to ?
 
Ok i check it out
Romani in europe mainly belong
To H-m82 branch ( which is different from the european neolithic branch we see in ancient remains)🤔

https://www.yfull.com/tree/H-M82/
 
to complete Kingjohn, the extract of Wiki
Haplogroup H (Y-DNA), also known as H-L901/M2939 is a Y-chromosome haplogroup.
The primary branch H1 (H-M69) and its subclades is one of the most predominant haplogroups amongst populations in South Asia, particularly its descendant H1a1 (M52). A primary branch of H-M52, H1a1a (H-M82), is found commonly among the Romani people, who originated in South Asia and migrated into the Middle East and Europe, around the beginning of the 2nd millennium CE and the Khmer people who got under influence from Indian populations.[1] The much rarer primary branch H3 (Z5857) is also concentrated in South Asia.

@ratchet fan: I have no special knowledge of ancient splits in haplogroups; I don't know if maciamo has worked on this Y-haplo; but some genealogic companies sites on the net could give some answers, in asking something like "Y-haplogroup ..."
 
MOESAN said:
to complete Kingjohn, the extract of Wiki
Haplogroup H (Y-DNA), also known as H-L901/M2939 is a Y-chromosome haplogroup.
The primary branch H1 (H-M69) and its subclades is one of the most predominant haplogroups amongst populations in South Asia, particularly its descendant H1a1 (M52). A primary branch of H-M52, H1a1a (H-M82), is found commonly among the Romani people, who originated in South Asia and migrated into the Middle East and Europe, around the beginning of the 2nd millennium CE and the Khmer people who got under influence from Indian populations.[1] The much rarer primary branch H3 (Z5857) is also concentrated in South Asia.

@ratchet fan: I have no special knowledge of ancient splits in haplogroups; I don't know if maciamo has worked on this Y-haplo; but some genealogic companies sites on the net could give some answers, in asking something like "Y-haplogroup ..."
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Thanks. I'll ask around if I have time. It makes me wonder if there was West Eurasian ancestry in South Asia even 40,000 ybp.
 
In relation with this thread, by interaction between Neolithic France and Neolithic Germany:
I regreat they did not test the Y-haplo's. BTW, ancient physical anthropology had pointed to the specificity of S.O.M and Michelsberger people compared to LBK and following pop's of West-Central Europe
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0179742
 
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