Ancient Italy K8 Model (Dodecad K12b)

Jovialis you are right about the 2 way models

Distance to: Stefano
2.96824958 30.80% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.20% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
3.06802173 30.40% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.60% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
3.73193350 32.40% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 67.60% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
4.24639471 30.00% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 70.00% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
4.25697071 30.60% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.40% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
4.42186486 32.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 67.20% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
4.47500019 32.60% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 67.40% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
4.62940760 32.00% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 68.00% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
4.84301169 32.20% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 67.80% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
4.89061999 33.00% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 67.00% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
4.89892883 32.20% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 67.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
4.93516135 33.60% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 66.40% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
4.98989000 30.20% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.80% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
5.05106643 31.40% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 68.60% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
5.06121556 30.40% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.60% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
5.17866938 30.80% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 69.20% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
5.21381726 33.00% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 67.00% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
5.21954968 30.40% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.60% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
5.23281473 31.80% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 68.20% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
5.34023078 32.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 67.40% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
5.34549702 31.20% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 68.80% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
5.35954688 32.00% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 68.00% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
5.40948860 30.80% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 69.20% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
5.46160614 31.00% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 69.00% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
5.50352678 31.60% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 68.40% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
 
Mine...

Distance to: italouruguayan
36.77070029 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
36.82224192 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
38.92345951 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
39.24189598 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
39.76766526 Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
40.46768835 Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021
40.67994223 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
41.37306491 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
41.37859350 Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
41.68839647 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
41.70165105 Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
41.86577958 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
41.94096208 C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
42.11336486 C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
42.34487100 C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
42.46943842 C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
42.76264374 C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
43.09636760 Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
43.18381410 Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017


Target: italouruguayan
Distance: 435.2537% / 4.35253733
22.8 Remedello
22.6 Yamnaya
19.6 Minoan
18.6 Bolshoy_Ostrov
10.6 Anatolian_BA
5.8 Iberomaurusian
 
The model is very cool. Congratulations Jovialis.
However, considering, on the one hand, the fact that I am not Italian and, on the other hand, the fact that I am not 100% European, I see that the adjustments are not exceptional for me as it’s to others users. 3.675% in admixture mode. In simple mode, I'd rather not even comment, lol. I picked some samples from other European populations to add to those of the original model just for fun and to obtain slightly better fits in mixed mode and simple mode, just for fun lol.

Original



Distance to:Duarte
29.88531579C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
31.78933626C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
32.35028902C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
32.49682292C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
32.99247035C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
33.10756107C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
33.21771666C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
33.33528611C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
33.49879252Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
34.08346080C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
34.54672054C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
36.49465440Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
38.07036774Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
38.31550991C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019
38.40018359Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
39.36880745Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
39.86482660Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
40.81832432Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
41.05638196Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
41.05687762Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021
41.44927382Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
43.06909565Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017
43.24427939Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
44.30643746Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
56.86772459Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015

Target: Duarte
Distance: 3.6750% / 3.67497197
50.7Remedello
23.3Yamnaya
15.5Anatolian_BA
9.5Iberomaurusian
1.0Bolshoy_Ostrov
0.0C_Italian_ChL
0.0C_Italian_N
0.0Minoan


(Original) + (some others samples selected by me)

Distance to:Duarte
12.80622895Salzmuende_MN:I0802:Lipson_2017
14.87106587Bulgaria_EBA:I2176:Mathieson_2018
16.42045066Bulgaria_EBA:Bul10:Mathieson_2018
16.69155775Bulgaria_EBA:I2175:Mathieson_2018
17.84517302Bulgaria_EBA:Bul8:Mathieson_2018
18.28217438Bulgaria_EBA:Bul6:Mathieson_2018
19.03379626Bulgaria_EBA:I2165:Mathieson_2018
19.89258907Salzmuende_MN:I0800:Lipson_2017
23.11298769Scotland_CA_EBA:I2569:Olalde_2018
24.34010066Scotland_CA_EBA:I5470:Olalde_2018
26.69226667Scotland_CA_EBA:I3132:Olalde_2018
27.93732450Scotland_CA_EBA:I5473:Olalde_2018
28.19053565Scotland_CA_EBA:I5516:Olalde_2018
29.88531579C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
29.94364373Scotland_CA_EBA:I5515:Olalde_2018
30.63356492Scotland_CA_EBA:I2567:Olalde_2018
31.41962444Anatolian_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021
31.78933626C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
32.01319884Anatolian_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021
32.35028902C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
32.47247296Anatolian_N:CCH285:Yaka_2021
32.49682292C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
32.53782568Anatolian_N:Bar31:Hofmanova_2016
32.73571597NE_Iberia_MLN:I10287:Olalde_2019
32.99247035C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.3243% / 0.32425908
26.2Scotland_CA_EBA
19.8Salzmuende_MN
17.2Anatolian_N
14.8Bulgaria_EBA
8.1NE_Iberia_MLN
6.6Iberomaurusian
6.1Yamnaya
1.2Anatolian_BA
0.0Bolshoy_Ostrov
0.0C_Italian_ChL
0.0C_Italian_N
0.0Minoan
0.0Remedello


 
Most of these calculators and the ones by others as well show high Central Italian Neolithic for me, 73% in some of the runs, lowering my Yamnaya by about 3%.

I wish there were more Italians posting their results so I could see if that holds true.

I would be really interested, for example, in results from the Marche and Umbria.to see where they fall in the cline.
 
Mine...
Target: italouruguayan
Distance: 435.2537% / 4.35253733
22.8 Remedello
22.6 Yamnaya
19.6 Minoan
18.6 Bolshoy_Ostrov
10.6 Anatolian_BA
5.8 Iberomaurusian

Hi Italouruguayan -- Where in Italy did your ancestors come from? And from what other countries do you have ancestry?
 
British Isles + Calabrian = pseudo Northern Italian
Distance to:malaparte
1.8795818644.40% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 55.60% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
1.8950358841.60% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 58.40% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
2.3118915341.60% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 58.40% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
2.5173662443.80% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 56.20% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
2.5461549642.00% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 58.00% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
2.6517936441.20% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 58.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
2.7330060642.40% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 57.60% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
2.7701653744.60% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 55.40% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
2.8488527244.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 55.20% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
2.9147321842.20% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 57.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
2.9353348043.00% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 57.00% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
3.0441066444.40% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 55.60% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
3.1033622942.40% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 57.60% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
3.1244291541.40% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 58.60% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
3.1435904243.20% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 56.80% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
3.2018923846.00% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 54.00% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
3.2100841945.60% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 54.40% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
3.3065976544.20% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 55.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
3.3096967644.20% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 55.80% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
3.3463837443.00% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 57.00% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
3.4330282041.40% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 58.60% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
3.4797624142.20% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 57.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
3.5241374943.60% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 56.40% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
3.5517198343.20% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 56.80% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
3.7031532145.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 54.80% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
 
Most of these calculators and the ones by others as well show high Central Italian Neolithic for me, 73% in some of the runs, lowering my Yamnaya by about 3%.

I wish there were more Italians posting their results so I could see if that holds true.

I would be really interested, for example, in results from the Marche and Umbria.to see where they fall in the cline.

Hi Angela.

I don't know if this information will help you. The modern coordinates used as target are from the Italians of Marche and Umbria and were taken from the updated Vahaduo Dodecad K12 spreadsheet. It was used as source the Jovialis's original produced in this thread.

Distance to:Italian_Umbria
23.81414706Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
23.82701198Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
25.15173354Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
25.35030572Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
26.32666139Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
26.58492430Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021
26.82019016Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
27.00905589Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
27.60229338Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
28.34750606C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
28.48049859Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017
28.55217155Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
28.79588686C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
29.25250758C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
29.73908371C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
29.78593460C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
30.40092926C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
30.62725584C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
31.88117156C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
33.17301765C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
36.34360879C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
39.22463894C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019
44.49631333Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
48.19812859Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
57.04024632Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015


Distance to:Italian_Marche
22.13260681Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
22.15253990Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
23.44018055Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
23.60312530Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
24.79636635Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
24.96989315Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021
25.26544288Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
25.43636971Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
25.86181749Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
26.95776630Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017
27.01141729Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
27.19959014C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
27.68119044C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
28.20914469C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
28.72113549C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
28.76254829C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
29.43452707C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
29.76205510C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
31.12222139C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
32.70925288C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
35.93388184C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
38.70070005C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019
44.75709669Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
48.49391966Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
58.11480280Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015

Target: Italian_Umbria
Distance: 0.2171% / 0.21707844
49.9Minoan
26.8Yamnaya
14.1Remedello
8.0C_Italian_N
1.0Iberomaurusian
0.2C_Italian_ChL


Target: Italian_Marche
Distance: 0.1049% / 0.10488226
50.2Minoan
26.4Yamnaya
16.7C_Italian_N
5.6Remedello
0.9Iberomaurusian
0.2C_Italian_ChL

Distance to:Italian_Umbria
3.8209853930.20% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 69.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
4.2683652930.20% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.80% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
4.2882828230.40% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 69.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
4.3945226229.80% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 70.20% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
4.4157442432.40% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 67.60% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
4.5744008932.00% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 68.00% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
4.5786487029.80% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 70.20% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.6537947129.80% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 70.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
4.6900044832.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 67.40% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
4.8031410832.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 67.60% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
4.9758365633.00% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 67.00% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
5.0617241730.40% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 69.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
5.1262510629.80% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 70.20% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.1671630532.60% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 67.40% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
5.2027516629.40% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 70.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.3699632828.00% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 72.00% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.4440644930.40% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 69.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
5.4600840628.40% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 71.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.5098326128.60% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 71.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
5.5236301929.00% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 71.00% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.6835923228.40% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 71.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.7059905428.80% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 71.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
5.7071768228.80% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 71.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
5.7765510131.00% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 69.00% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
5.8140604531.40% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 68.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017


Distance to:Italian_Marche
3.0436508528.60% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 71.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
3.3242808428.80% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 71.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
3.6847164828.20% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 71.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
4.0430263228.20% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 71.80% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.3858148327.00% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 73.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
4.3879671928.60% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 71.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
4.4293326928.20% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 71.80% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.4458328327.80% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 72.20% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.5394621727.00% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 73.00% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.6114093928.80% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 71.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
4.6508771727.40% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 72.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.6911616427.00% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 73.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
4.6969590127.40% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 72.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
4.7064730326.60% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 73.40% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.7220519127.40% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 72.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
4.7749730627.00% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 73.00% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.8327051831.00% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 69.00% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
4.8407591130.60% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 69.40% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
4.9193798831.00% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 69.00% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
4.9446298631.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 68.60% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
5.0110523426.60% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 73.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
5.0225770728.20% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 71.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
5.0442027928.80% Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015 + 71.20% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.1293425229.20% Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015 + 70.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
5.1586113427.80% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 72.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
 
I see the anthrogenica crew is still kicking around here utilizing the let's throw any groups at the calculators that will give us the results we want even if they're modern populations which are not accurate at all chronologically or archaeologically.

I, half Northern Italian and half TSI like, get very good fits using Central Italian Neolithic plus some Yamnaya. Or, alternatively, Remedello, Central Italian Chalcolithic, Yamnaya, and Minoan or Greek Islander. Or, Iron Age Italics plus some Crete Islander. In fact, I get 70% Latin on some analyses with the rest being Crete Islander.

Those are the archaeological cultures which are appropriate historically and archaeologically. The analysis is supported by uniparental dna.

I get bad scores using ancient "Imperial Roman" plus "Celtic", because it doesn't approximate the populations which went into creating me. Period.

Your "analyses" always fail the "smell" test as well as any elementary reasoning. It's like telling a Uighur that an analysis finding he is half Chinese and half British is in any way a meaningful window into his past.
 
Hi Angela.

I don't know if this information will help you. The modern coordinates used as target are from the Italians of Marche and Umbria and were taken from the updated Vahaduo Dodecad K12 spreadsheet. It was used as source the Jovialis's original produced in this thread.

Distance to:Italian_Umbria
23.81414706Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
23.82701198Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
25.15173354Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
25.35030572Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
26.32666139Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
26.58492430Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021
26.82019016Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
27.00905589Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
27.60229338Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
28.34750606C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
28.48049859Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017
28.55217155Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
28.79588686C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
29.25250758C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
29.73908371C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
29.78593460C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
30.40092926C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
30.62725584C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
31.88117156C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
33.17301765C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
36.34360879C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
39.22463894C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019
44.49631333Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
48.19812859Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
57.04024632Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015


Distance to:Italian_Marche
22.13260681Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
22.15253990Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
23.44018055Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
23.60312530Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
24.79636635Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
24.96989315Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021
25.26544288Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
25.43636971Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
25.86181749Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
26.95776630Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017
27.01141729Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
27.19959014C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
27.68119044C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
28.20914469C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
28.72113549C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
28.76254829C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
29.43452707C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
29.76205510C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
31.12222139C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
32.70925288C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
35.93388184C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
38.70070005C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019
44.75709669Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
48.49391966Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
58.11480280Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015

Target: Italian_Umbria
Distance: 0.2171% / 0.21707844
49.9Minoan
26.8Yamnaya
14.1Remedello
8.0C_Italian_N
1.0Iberomaurusian
0.2C_Italian_ChL


Target: Italian_Marche
Distance: 0.1049% / 0.10488226
50.2Minoan
26.4Yamnaya
16.7C_Italian_N
5.6Remedello
0.9Iberomaurusian
0.2C_Italian_ChL

Distance to:Italian_Umbria
3.8209853930.20% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 69.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
4.2683652930.20% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.80% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
4.2882828230.40% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 69.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
4.3945226229.80% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 70.20% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
4.4157442432.40% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 67.60% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
4.5744008932.00% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 68.00% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
4.5786487029.80% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 70.20% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.6537947129.80% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 70.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
4.6900044832.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 67.40% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
4.8031410832.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 67.60% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
4.9758365633.00% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 67.00% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
5.0617241730.40% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 69.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
5.1262510629.80% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 70.20% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.1671630532.60% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 67.40% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
5.2027516629.40% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 70.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.3699632828.00% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 72.00% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.4440644930.40% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 69.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
5.4600840628.40% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 71.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.5098326128.60% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 71.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
5.5236301929.00% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 71.00% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.6835923228.40% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 71.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.7059905428.80% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 71.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
5.7071768228.80% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 71.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
5.7765510131.00% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 69.00% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
5.8140604531.40% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 68.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017


Distance to:Italian_Marche
3.0436508528.60% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 71.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
3.3242808428.80% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 71.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
3.6847164828.20% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 71.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
4.0430263228.20% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 71.80% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.3858148327.00% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 73.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
4.3879671928.60% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 71.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
4.4293326928.20% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 71.80% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.4458328327.80% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 72.20% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.5394621727.00% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 73.00% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.6114093928.80% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 71.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
4.6508771727.40% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 72.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.6911616427.00% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 73.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
4.6969590127.40% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 72.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
4.7064730326.60% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 73.40% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.7220519127.40% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 72.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
4.7749730627.00% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 73.00% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
4.8327051831.00% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 69.00% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
4.8407591130.60% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 69.40% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
4.9193798831.00% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 69.00% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
4.9446298631.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 68.60% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
5.0110523426.60% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 73.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
5.0225770728.20% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 71.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
5.0442027928.80% Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015 + 71.20% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
5.1293425229.20% Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015 + 70.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
5.1586113427.80% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 72.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017

Very interesting. Thank-you, Duarte.

Tuscans definitely cluster with Northern Italians, and the Marche and Umbria are closer to Central Italy. Interestingly, Marche, although at the same "latitude" as Umbria, is more "southern" in its genetics. I wonder if there would be a difference if I had data for Northern vs. Southern Marche.
 
I see the anthrogenica crew is still kicking around here utilizing the let's throw any groups at the calculators that will give us the results we want even if they're modern populations which are not accurate at all chronologically or archaeologically.

I barely vist anthrongenica. On the contrary, I come here because I view people like Jovialis and Pax Augustus as the most knowledgeable people online when it comes to Italian population genetics. You're no slouch yourself, but you can't separate politics from inquiry.

Your "analyses" always fail the "smell" test as well as any elementary reasoning. It's like telling a Uighur that an analysis finding he is half Chinese and half British is in any way a meaningful window into his past.

Evidently you're the one who cannot read in this instance. I said PSEUDO northern Italian. I simply shared my results using the calculator provided, just as I shared that I had relatively high Anatolian BA and Iberomaurusian. And I acknowledged that the results are likely unreliable in my case due to mixed ancestry, in ways that cannot as yet be unraveled.

Or should we now have a rule that only 100% pure Italians are allowed to share their results? If so, please the state the rule boldly and I will abide by it.
 
What is Bolshoy_Ostrov? why is it included? On a pca it seems near to Yamnaya.

From: Ancient Fennoscandian genomes reveal origin and spread of Siberian ancestry in Europe

Abstract

European population history has been shaped by migrations of people, and their subsequent admixture. Recently, ancient DNA has brought new insights into European migration events linked to the advent of agriculture, and possibly to the spread of Indo-European languages. However, little is known about the ancient population history of north-eastern Europe, in particular about populations speaking Uralic languages, such as Finns and Saami. Here we analyse ancient genomic data from 11 individuals from Finland and north-western Russia. We show that the genetic makeup of northern Europe was shaped by migrations from Siberia that began at least 3500 years ago. This Siberian ancestry was subsequently admixed into many modern populations in the region, particularly into populations speaking Uralic languages today. Additionally, we show that ancestors of modern Saami inhabited a larger territory during the Iron Age, which adds to the historical and linguistic information about the population history of Finland.

(…)
Broadly, present-day Europeans have ancestors in three deeply diverged source populations: European hunter-gatherers who settled the continent in the Upper Paleolithic, Europe’s first farmers who expanded from Anatolia across Europe in the early Neolithic starting around 8000 years ago, and groups from the Pontic Steppe that arrived in Europe during the final Neolithic and early Bronze Age ~ 4500 years ago. As a consequence, most Europeans can be modelled as a mixture of these three ancestral populations3.
This model, however, does not fit well for present-day populations from north-eastern Europe such as Saami, Russians, Mordovians, Chuvash, Estonians, Hungarians, and Finns: they carry additional ancestry seen as increased allele sharing with modern East Asian populations1,3,9,10.
(…)


mwi1Jn2.png




 
Thanks Duarte for the explanation on Bolshoy_Ostrov.


I have noticed that using Hallstat/La Tène instead of yamnaya improves the results for northern italians, lowering the fit, both in mixed and in two modes.

While C_Italian_N + Yamnaya is an acceptable approximation i think it lacks something, especially in alpine parts of italy.
 
Thanks Duarte for the explanation on Bolshoy_Ostrov.


I have noticed that using Hallstat/La Tène instead of yamnaya improves the results for northern italians, lowering the fit, both in mixed and in two modes.

While C_Italian_N + Yamnaya is an acceptable approximation i think it lacks something, especially in alpine parts of italy.

I was going to refer you to Jovialis' calculator on "La Tene to Model Italians" thread, but then saw that you were last person to comment there
 
Distance to: Torziok12b
35.11114353 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
35.17248783 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
35.37032372 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
35.43131383 C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
35.48590002 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
35.61154869 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
35.70662824 C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
35.71676357 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
35.73146792 C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
35.82832957 C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
35.85533015 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
35.97029330 C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
36.08090908 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
36.31372743 C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
37.16272460 Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
37.54310722 Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021
37.65628766 Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
37.99875524 C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
38.82834918 Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
39.21310113 Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017
39.40315470 Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
41.68266066 Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
42.53935825 C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019
45.09681474 Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
50.74563627 Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015
 
Distance to:C6-Imperial_Rome_(n=13)
1.54313291Italian_Campania
1.99298904Italian_Molise
2.67254660Italian_Basilicata
2.70117309Italian_Abruzzo
2.98035580Italian_Sicily
4.39661643Italian_Apulia
4.58181833Italian_Calabria
5.35800529Greek_Lemnos
5.58613648Ashkenazi_Jew
6.35601393Moldovan_Jewish
6.75179844Greek_Foca
6.86378607Greek_Izmir
6.87973261Greek_Fournoi
7.65389076Greek_Central
7.69169167Greek_Athens
7.94419996Greek_Crete
8.14392875Italian_Marche
8.48170732Italian_Lazio
8.93514354Italian_Jew
9.53744632Greek_Icaria
9.78969384Greek_Kos
9.82909601Greek_Peloponnese
9.86080691Italian_Umbria
10.51454988Greek_Rhodes
11.27820557Sephardic_Jew
11.29814371Albanian
11.66178364Italian_Romagna
11.88330104Greek_Thrace
12.50021375Greek_Thessaly
12.52959471Greek_Thessaloniki
13.47045933Morocco_Jew
14.03516865Bulgarian_Thrace
14.54954841Italian_Tuscany
14.63525267Turk_Cyprus
14.70249604French_Corsica
14.95332165Albanian_Kosovo
15.02198970Turk_Makedonya
16.10742415Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
16.30714300Italian_Emilia
16.56450948Macedonian_South
16.56552111Turk_Trakya
17.16474376Turk_West_Black_Sea
17.18694399Italian_Liguria
17.41372992Macedonian_Vardar
17.56423741Greek_Macedonia
17.64525817Turk_Northwest
17.72839264Greek_Cypriot
18.49194912Turk_Southwest
18.58563935Turk_Central_West
18.93212973Moldovan_Gagauz
18.97633155Macedonian_East
19.06088295Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
19.09579025Bulgarian_East
19.10874119Turk_Deliorman
19.44655727Macedonian_Polog
19.54532478Greek_Cappadocia
19.97902240Italian_Veneto
20.02091573Italian_Lombardy
20.13971978Italian_Piedmont
20.79432720Turk_Central_East
21.11998847Italian_Friuli_VG
21.12184372Bulgarian_Central
21.25470386Turk_South
21.37014069Nusayri_Turkey
21.37373256Pomak_Greece
21.79960174Turk_Central_Black_Sea
21.91360127Pomak_Bulgaria
22.56195618Turk_Southeast
22.58228674Bulgarian_West
22.68372980Romanian_Muntenia
22.72970349Lebanese_Muslim
23.35282567Romanian_Oltenia
23.56846992Romanian_Dobrogea
23.68586868Swiss_Italian
23.86826324Lebanese_Christian
 
^^I deleted the original post, because I made a mistake in the average. I accidently put a Late Antiquity sample in the mix.

Here is the corrected version:

Code:
C6-Imperial_Rome_(n=12),8.63,0.187272727,2.805454545,0.270909091,28.64272727,13.66454545,0.134545455,0.219090909,11.27727273,0.138181818,33.83181818,0.198181818
 
^^I deleted the original post, because I made a mistake in the average. I accidently put a Late Antiquity sample in the mix.

Here is the corrected version:

Code:
C6-Imperial_Rome_(n=12),8.63,0.187272727,2.805454545,0.270909091,28.64272727,13.66454545,0.134545455,0.219090909,11.27727273,0.138181818,33.83181818,0.198181818

Distance to:C6-Imperial_Rome_(n=12)
1.98351970Italian_Campania
2.36331921Italian_Basilicata
2.61374609Italian_Molise
2.93977820Italian_Sicily
3.04321682Italian_Abruzzo
4.47868948Italian_Calabria
4.50571712Italian_Apulia
5.25139942Greek_Lemnos
5.73387584Ashkenazi_Jew
6.40187582Moldovan_Jewish
6.66150989Greek_Fournoi
6.72030677Greek_Izmir
6.87600872Greek_Foca
7.67469960Greek_Crete
7.91513197Greek_Central
8.01795743Greek_Athens
8.60764121Italian_Marche
8.87672008Italian_Jew
8.89178658Italian_Lazio
9.47850609Greek_Kos
9.48846551Greek_Icaria
10.10368949Greek_Peloponnese
10.21009996Greek_Rhodes
10.31746602Italian_Umbria
11.15980064Sephardic_Jew

Distance to:C6-Imperial_Rome_(n=12)
4.47715875Jovialis
4.90570405S_Italian_Sicilian_D:Dodecad_(n=10)
5.61743434Sicilian_D:Dodecad_(n=15)
8.63112368C_Italian_D:Dodecad_(n=13)
8.91819007Ashkenazy_Jews:Behar_(n=17)
9.05347374Ashkenazi_D:Dodecad_(n=19)
9.52416666Greek_D:Dodecad_(n=15)
11.17164940Sephardic_Jews:Behar_(n=19)
11.81609555O_Italian_D:Dodecad_(n=5)
12.71918828Tuscan:HGDP_(n=7)
13.37627225Morocco_Jews:Behar_(n=15)
13.91087624TSI30:Metspalu_(n=21)
20.60977098N_Italian_D:Dodecad_(n=5)
20.96541146Cypriots:Behar_(n=11)
21.49697072Turkish_D:Dodecad_(n=27)
21.83010693North_Italian:HGDP_(n=11)
23.30132508Bulgarian_D:Dodecad_(n=7)
23.73081858Bulgarians_Y:Yunusbayev_(n=10)
24.09872734Turks:Behar_(n=19)
24.53531268Lebanese:Behar_(n=7)
24.80458399Romanians:Behar_(n=16)
27.02420338Syrians:Behar_(n=15)
27.78698723Kurds_North:GEDmatch_(n=13)
28.43991633Jordanians:Behar_(n=20)
28.46168917Druze:HGDP_(n=32)


WJdXPST.png
 
Code:
Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2),8.03,0.24,2.22,0.79,30.54,15.60,0.00,0.00,10.52,0.00,32.08,0.00
Maciamo created the above code for the average of the two samples from Imperial Marche. I am actually pretty close to this one.

Distance to:Jovialis
2.64620483Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)


Distance to:Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
1.8523037725.60% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 74.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
1.9193515525.20% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 74.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
2.0188147926.40% Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015 + 73.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
2.1237310425.80% Yamnaya:I0444_SVP58:Haak_2015 + 74.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
2.1268193225.40% Yamnaya:RISE552:Allentoft_2015 + 74.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
2.2775752825.40% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 74.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
2.2838039924.80% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 75.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
2.2936095824.80% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 75.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
2.2988647325.40% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 74.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
2.4416016526.20% Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015 + 73.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
2.4687827126.00% Yamnaya:I0231_SVP3:Haak_2015 + 74.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
2.4913206425.80% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 74.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
2.5471734824.60% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 75.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
2.5560360424.60% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 75.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
2.5922675427.40% Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015 + 72.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
2.7075782225.20% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 74.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
2.7720359625.60% Yamnaya:I0444_SVP58:Haak_2015 + 74.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
2.8824072025.60% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 74.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
2.9652284725.20% Yamnaya:RISE552:Allentoft_2015 + 74.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
2.9691565026.80% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 73.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017
3.0060716127.00% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 73.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
3.0607475026.80% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 73.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
3.0633029625.00% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 75.00% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021
3.1613076226.40% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 73.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017
3.1751190925.00% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 75.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017

 
Jovialis: Thanks again. My distances to C6_Imperial Rome and Imperial_Marche:

Distance to:PalermoTrapani_ANCESTRY
3.69576785Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
3.97010367C6-Imperial_Rome_(n=12)

 
Hi Italouruguayan -- Where in Italy did your ancestors come from? And from what other countries do you have ancestry?

Hello Malaparte!
Surely my non-European components (18% Native American, 3% Sub-Saharan African, both inherited from my maternal side), separate my results from the true Italians. My paternal grandfather was from Veneto, and my paternal grandmother, Uruguayan, had her four Italian grandparents, I believe, from Liguria and Lombardy. The European components of my maternal side, although they are mostly Iberian (Portugal), also include a great-grandfather of my mother, of Neapolitan origin.
 

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