Folklore Balkan folk rhythms

Ylli Zeqiri & Mentor Xhemali -Morra rrugen per Janine
 
Laver Bariu - Gjeneral Gramafoni (Official Audio)
 
My friends from Constanta have many Greek and Turkish channels, among others,KRAL.



If you, Balkanites, are some sort of Byzantine "samurais",faithful to your community,village,clan,etc., we,those of more Ancient Romanian ancestry can be compared to ronins,never looked for (100%) consent in a woman, that's for sure...that's the Old heritage from the mountains, and the results were not that bad.


Janissary lady(know her from KRAL):


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tls56XLEW5o
 
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Dreptul Valah said:
My friends from Constanta have many Greek and Turkish channels, among others,KRAL.



If you, Balkanites, are some sort of Byzantine "samurais",faithful to your community,village,clan,etc., we,those of more Ancient Romanian ancestry can be compared to ronins,never looked for (100%) consent in a woman, that's for sure...that's the Old heritage from the mountains, and the results were not that bad.


Janissary lady(know her from KRAL):


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tls56XLEW5o
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Not bad, Dreptul! Not your typical Vlah song though ;).
 
Dreptul Valah said:
She has some meat on her,a very beautiful woman...


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Very nice songs BTW;I like this Southern Balkan style,usually search for something " explosive",entertaining,with faster rhythm.
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Same here, I like the faster traditional songs from Thrace (of course), Pontos, Crete and the islands. I am not very fond of the slow songs of the Peloponnese, mainland Greece or Western Macedonia. I do like the Greek and Turkish popular music we seem to share.

Now here is some fast paced music from East Romylia (Northern Thrace), now part of Bulgaria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OyqvyDC9_8&frags=pl,wn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDIXczh5JR0&frags=pl,wn

My mother's family came from that area (Kavakli), had to move twice in about 20 years as refugees, first to Eastern Thrace and then to Western Thrace.
 
Here is a Thracian zonaradikos (belt dance):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VurGUDwbQs4

If it does not prompt you to dance or at least tap your feet, you're either dead or deaf or both :laughing:. When the Gaida trilled at about 4:19 into the song, my hair stood on edge.
 
That's an old dance,inherited in Romanian,we call it braul(the belt).


If braul comes from brandeum(religious belt),then the holding is ritualistic, assuring the connection with God.


https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/brâu


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And it does,because n also dissapears in the singular from of grau(Latin granum).

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Latin nd turns to nn in South Italian dialects, see the Romanian mancare,from manducare.

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Tomb of the Dancers,similar moves from Puglian IA.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Dancers
 
@Bigsnake

ζωναραδικος ορθος


I loved to dance this zonaradikos, and also mpaitouska, as kid and teenager,
till youspit out your pneumons
the συγκαθιστος zonaradikos is one of the few dances we see dancing with heels instead of toes.
which making him rather origin from a sacred or a war dance.

 
Yetos said:
@Bigsnake

ζωναραδικος ορθος


I loved to dance this zonaradikos, and also mpaitouska, as kid and teenager,
till youspit out your pneumons
the συγκαθιστος zonaradikos is one of the few dances we see dancing with heels instead of toes.
which making him rather origin from a sacred or a war dance.

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Very nice, I can tell it is from Eastern Romylia because of the obvious use of the accordion as a primary instrument. It seems that it is heavily influenced by Bulgarian musical idioms which makes sense since the Greeks of Eastern Romylia lived among the Bulgarians. I also sense some Romanian influences.

BTW the dance is a Tsestos.
 
bigsnake49 said:
Very nice, I can tell it is from Eastern Romylia because of the obvious use of the accordion as a primary instrument. It seems that it is heavily influenced by Bulgarian musical idioms which makes sense since the Greeks of Eastern Romylia lived among the Bulgarians. I also sense some Romanian influences.

BTW the dance is a Tsestos.
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by Politi Kalfov treaty lots came from East Romylia and Black sea,
their new settlements have the word new,
mainly from Agathoupolis, Bana, Stranza, etc,

by the Kemal Benizelos, is another population of Greek-Thracians from villages outside Con/polis,
 
bigsnake49 said:
In this Video the first dance is a Zonaradikos the second is a Tsestos and then a Syngathistos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBebBWHrwAo&frags=pl,wn

Now these are professional dancers so you probably notice this is not your father's village dancers performing :).
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in my fathers village, only women dance as primary dancers, they resemble family,
man just follow, except in some occasional gatherings, certain days,out in the fields and small churches, bridges etc, where, men and only men, dance with woods and swords, which boulouki will pass the crossroad,
sometimes wounded by the bats of the moves.

yet what you call tsestos, only the feet, the lower body, reminds me steps of the Pontic serra dance,
as a kid and teen learned many dances,
remember it was a tough dance, very difficult one.

συγκαθιστος is typical,
a kind of fast aptalikos with ballo, a pair dance.
 
And some Gagauz dances from Evros prefecture. The Gagauz people have a very interesting history. They are Turkish speaking Orthodox people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzsBhT7unh4

The main body of Gagauz live in Moldova but there are pockets of them in Greece, Bulgaria and Turkey. It is theorized that they were a Thracian tribe that lived North of Varna in what is now Bulgaria. They fought on the Russian side of the Russian-Turkish war and were exiled to Moldova.

For some more info on the Gagauz from the Greek point of view, see here:

https://dergipark.org.tr/download/article-file/91751

I sometime cluster with the Gagauz on gedmatch.
 
bigsnake49 said:
And some Gagauz dances from Evros prefecture. The Gagauz people have a very interesting history. They are Turkish speaking Orthodox people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzsBhT7unh4

The main body of Gagauz live in Moldova but there are pockets of them in Greece, Bulgaria and Turkey. It is theorized that they were a Thracian tribe that lived North of Varna in what is now Bulgaria. They fought on the Russian side of the Russian-Turkish war and were exiled to Moldova.

For some more info on the Gagauz from the Greek point of view, see here:

https://dergipark.org.tr/download/article-file/91751

I sometime cluster with the Gagauz on gedmatch.
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I know Historically Gagavuz were from minor Asian, that moved to Akkerman castle, Bessarabia.
 
Yetos said:
I know Historically Gagavuz were from minor Asian, that moved to Akkerman castle, Bessarabia.
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They tend to cluster genetically with Bulgarians (Thracians), not Anatolians.
 
bigsnake49 said:
They tend to cluster genetically with Bulgarians (Thracians), not Anatolians.
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so the story of Kaikavuz Sultan is rather just a story?
 
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