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Politics Balkanian disagreements.

Whether CIA or USA never crashed any democratic government throughout the world. Only the communist puppets of soviet union. They did the right thing. USA saved the world from the Nazis and communism.

Piro?
are you from planet Mars?


I just wondering How many dictators CIA and USA supported and crashed elected democratic goverments
let me count only in S America,
 
hahaha
the girl who works for Rama,
the one who worked at embasy,
ahahaha you're back
Rama is the last Albanian president and you know it
after him Big Kossova is the state
Excuse me, what is this? Are you drunk?
 
It is absolutely astounding that in 2015 people in the Balkans are still reading history books written by Soviet Russian controlled stooges. According to whom, of course, the Russians won the war single handed. What a joke. First they stabbed the Poles and the west in the back to get some territory, then they had to beg for war materiel from the west, including food, because their collectivization was a total failure, and their "strategy" was to let the Germans burn and destroy half the country while waiting for the winter to come to their rescue. Oh, they also threw unnumbered thousands and hundreds of thousands of unarmed people at German tanks and guns. About the only intelligent thing they did was cut the German supply lines, but then the Germans wreaked so much havoc on the initially welcoming local populations that even the Soviets seemed better by comparison, so they were willing to help.

The poor Russians...led by an insane thug who had terrified the entire officer corps, the factory directors, even the Party intelligentsia itself, virtually anyone who could actually have contributed, into a state of total idiocy.

When does perceived (not even "real") "ethnic loyalty" give way to common sense? I know that the Italian leaders of the time were idiots, from the Pope and the King on down. "Ethnic loyalty" isn't going to stop me or Italians in general from exercising reason and common sense.

Someone wondered about the effect of the "Iron Curtain". This is it: some die hard totally brainwashed, uninformed people fifty years behind the rest of Europe. Is it any surprise they were committing genocide only twenty-five years ago?

I'd recommend some textbooks and first hand accounts of the thirties in Europe, including the disastrous purges conducted by Stalin, and then of World War II itself, but it's useless; they won't read them.

Just to confirm - you were behind iron curtain?
 
Just to confirm - you were behind iron curtain?
And how this matter to you?!!! I was, but you don't care for my knowledge either.
 
I'm glad you finally noticed.
Invasion of Italy was salvation of Vatican, and war with Japan was for control over Pacific.

And how this matter to you?!!! I was, but you don't care for my knowledge either.
You were both behind curtains. You were behind communist, and she was behind NATO brick wall. And still are. That makes me sad here :sad-2:
 
Invasion of Italy was salvation of Vatican, and war with Japan was for control over Pacific.
Protestants came to save Catholic Church. It makes sense...;)

You were both behind curtains. You were behind communist, and she was behind NATO brick wall. And still are. That makes me sad here :sad-2:
Join the world, you'll be happier!

It's 4am in Yugoslavia, get some sleep. Without good night sleep person can get psychotic and delusional.
 
Protestants came to save Catholic Church. It makes sense...;)

Sudanese army came to save Sudanese police. Doesn't make sense. Why would they do that...

Join the world, you'll be happier!

It's 4am in Yugoslavia, get some sleep. Without good night sleep person can get psychotic and delusional.

Sorry, had just come home from having fun. You should try not to hate us so much for that :)
 
I'm sure he always have too much oopa!
I am a new member here, 5-6 days. And i hope that this forum is not a place where drunk peoples gather to tell their experiences.
 
WW2 started in 1939, invasion was in summer of 1944, and Hitler was dead in spring of 1945. USA invaded Europe when the war was almost over, to save Germans.
USA destroyed the whole German air military fleet. They destroyed also all the military German fabrics. Without the intervention of USA, the soviet union could disappear and lost the war. What was the Normandy according to you? The Americans arrived first to Germany, but they stopped just to the west Germany because of the deal with Stalin. Indeed, USA saved the Russians.
Churchill said, we shouldn't stop till we get to Moscow. Unfortunately USA disagreed with him.
 
hahaha
the girl who works for Rama,
the one who worked at embasy,
ahahaha is it true that all who work for Rama have millions of US $ at US? like Olsi who has more than 220 000 000? and Ilir Meta !!!!!
ahahaha you're back
what happened to the richest woman of Europe after the queenns? the doctor's daughter?
did they still cooperate with Serbs?
Rama is the last Albanian president and you know it
after him Big Kossova is the state
I don't see your point here. Rama is prime minister not president. Olsi rama is an America citizen. Why is wrong for an American citizen to keep his money in USA? [emoji45]

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Pls, just stop this discussion. It`s like speaking to an wall.
Yes,I know well. ...[emoji4] . But we will break and tear down these walls. We want a democratic Balkan. We already did in Berlin and against the cold war. It's a long process, but worth.

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I don't see your point here. Rama is prime minister not president. Olsi rama is an America citizen. Why is wrong for an American citizen to keep his money in USA? [emoji45]

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you are hiding behind your finger
 
Piro?
are you from planet Mars?


I just wondering How many dictators CIA and USA supported and crashed elected democratic goverments
let me count only in S America,
A democratic government? ! What, I'm supposed to laugh. They were all disgusting communists. USA did the right thing, destroying those leftists extremists. Unfortunately they didn't in Venezuela. Pinochet was better than Castro, anyway
 
What? That has nothing to do with saving Nazis.
What, you were hoping for an ethnic cleansing, replacing the Germans with Russians? You hope that Germans disappear after the WWII .
 
It is absolutely astounding that in 2015 people in the Balkans are still reading history books written by Soviet Russian controlled stooges. According to whom, of course, the Russians won the war single handed. What a joke. First they stabbed the Poles and the west in the back to get some territory, then they had to beg for war materiel from the west, including food, because their collectivization was a total failure, and their "strategy" was to let the Germans burn and destroy half the country while waiting for the winter to come to their rescue. Oh, they also threw unnumbered thousands and hundreds of thousands of unarmed people at German tanks and guns. About the only intelligent thing they did was cut the German supply lines, but then the Germans wreaked so much havoc on the initially welcoming local populations that even the Soviets seemed better by comparison, so they were willing to help.

The poor Russians...led by an insane thug who had terrified the entire officer corps, the factory directors, even the Party intelligentsia itself, virtually anyone who could actually have contributed, into a state of total idiocy.

When does perceived (not even "real") "ethnic loyalty" give way to common sense? I know that the Italian leaders of the time were idiots, from the Pope and the King on down. "Ethnic loyalty" isn't going to stop me or Italians in general from exercising reason and common sense.

Someone wondered about the effect of the "Iron Curtain". This is it: some die hard totally brainwashed, uninformed people fifty years behind the rest of Europe. Is it any surprise they were committing genocide only twenty-five years ago?

I'd recommend some textbooks and first hand accounts of the thirties in Europe, including the disastrous purges conducted by Stalin, and then of World War II itself, but it's useless; they won't read them.
Agree. I read a soviet book during the communism. The whole air force fleet of soviet union during the WWII was filled by aeroplanes made in Britain. [emoji23].
 
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