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Elias2 - what haplogroup are you, have you done a test (sub-saharan)? If you dont know anything about history or genetics, get lost, we dont need clowns here.
DejaVU
If I have sub-saharan mtDNA,
then what ?
DejaVu?
for you Greeks are sub-saharan are the Albanians also Sub-Saharan?
what do mean by that sub-saharan, what are you trying to prove?
now about about Albania and Epirus or Makedonia,
Albanien
maybe is different, think of that,
Albanian language is satem like Serbian,
Epirus and Makedonia is centum
the split of E was done in far anciety,
by spreading ..... like DejaVu does
you prove nothing
now about Arbanitet
Ask them what they are
as also the Souliotet who left Bulgaria (mandritsa) and live all in Greece
and i have found many to discuss
also Moschopolis Voskopoje in Albanian
probably you have never meet any of them,
or your Nationalism blinds you
probably as Dejavu ancestors were In Fyrom communist party
your ancestors were with Baraba pasa or Emver Hotza
or you read only Xtra nationalistic Books
calm down and be fake like your Neighbor Fyrom
Genetics proves that a part of Ancient Greeks and a part of Ancient south west Illyrian are same,
read History to find out why and how,
and read history to find who were Epirotans and Makedonians,
and how many Illyrians were in Alexander court, as also how many Thracians etc.
Makedonians were centum not satem, as also Epirotans
DejaVu you are still in another world
Dorian Invasion is also Temenus return
it was not an invasion from north,
but from Thessaly to Peloponese
same time the Argeiad Makedonian invesion was done from Thessaly to Pieria-Ematheia
and same time Lokroi Makedonians invade West Makedonia (Brygia) also From Thessaly
Todays FYROM was originally inhabited by Ancient Albanians until the Slavic invasion. and Albanians were driven away from their land. But you still have Albanians living in Macedonia.
But still, even if Albanians have Berber origin, we are talking about thousands and thousands of years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temenus
dejavu the Makedonians came from Thessaly to west makedonia and the Argeiads from the city of Heracleia and Dion to central Makedonia
the Argeiads were Dorians but the Makedonians were Aeolians
That is why Alexander when kick as.. of sparta did not burn the city
The dorians did not come out of Greece
it was an inner movement to claim thrones - change kings
that is why the messinians who ruled sparta became farmers, and the Arcadians who were relatives became free but not Spartans
The dorians did not invade Greece, the dorians where ever they went they were accepted
and mainly move to specific places that were known before only the messinians did not accept them cause
Despite nearly 200 years of investigation the historicity of the Dorian invasion has never been established. The meaning of the concept has become to some degree amorphous. The work done on it has mainly served to rule out various speculations. The possibility of a real Dorian invasion remains open.
as you see Dejavu Hercules travel to cities like -issa, in Thessaly
he is lost somewhere in the land of lapiths brothers of magnets
lapiths and centars loved horses as Makedonians did
that is why Dorians did brought IE language,
But probably knew IE
the Homerick Language
The language used by Homer is an archaic version of Ionic Greek, with admixtures from certain other dialects, such as Aeolic Greek. It later served as the basis of Epic Greek, the language of epic poetry, typically in dactylic hexameter.
land that today speak dorian is in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doric_Greek
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsakonian_language
This well described. The only thing that I would recomment to Iapetoc is to stop defending your position. You have done that enough.
The emphasis now should be on sorting the facts and specifically the dates of the southward migrations of the Slavic peoples. Once a clear picture of that is laid out, the position that ancient Macedonians were Slavic or had a major Slavic component becomes untenable by default. In others words, once it is established that Slavic tribes did not live in or near that location until roughly a thousand years later, there really is no longer any room to argue the point.
I had wanted to start a thread specifically about the regional origins of those we could clearly identify as Slavic or proto-Slavic peoples. I keep getting tied up with ongoing projects at work and am very busy in the evenings helping my High School 9th grade son with home work and assisting of physical exercises. In addition to that, I am Vice President of our local youth baseball league and am struggling to get enough local businesses to help this year with sponsorships of our program for this spring season. Perhaps now is the time to start the thread on that topic. If you can get together enough basic information to start the thread, I would be happy to add to it with posts when I can.
I just can’t find the time to do it myself now.
I think stupid thread, even I wonder how such a learned man like Maciamo, can be afected by such stupid threads.
If it continue, then Eupedia, will become a stupid page like Stormfront (50% of stormfront is used to talk against Albanians).
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