Chinese, Americans Truly See Differently, Study Says

Mars Man said:
I tend to agree. It may well turn out that the long influence of the agricultural base versus the 'hunting' oriented base caused that difference--whereas the basic brain would surely have to be the same...I'd think.

Hmm, hmm... I think I have explained well enough here that this is a complete misconception. The Japanese developed farming about 5000 years after any part of Europe, and most of China. That puts China and Europe at equal levels, but Japan well behind. So if such a difference exists, it should be as well between Chinese and Japanese than between Westerners and Japanese, but not between Westerners and Chinese. As the Japanese stayed hunters longer than the other two, one would logically think that they have a more targeted vision. But this is again mainly a difference between men and women, in any ethnic group. Testosterone is the main factor that makes the brain specialise in "targeted vision" (for hunting) or broader vision (to watch for predators by detecting small changes in the environment). The only major difference at this level is that Mongoloid people tend to have lower testosterone levels than Caucasians. This would confirm that the current study has some biological roots, not just cultural ones.
 
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Maciamo said:
Hmm, hmm... I think I have explained well enough here that this is a complete misconception. The Japanese developed farming about 5000 years after any part of Europe, and most of China. That puts China and Europe at equal levels, but Japan well behind. So if such a difference exists, it should be as well between Chinese and Japanese than between Westerners and Japanese, but not between Westerners and Chinese. As the Japanese stayed hunters longer than the other two, one would logically think that they have a more targeted vision. But this is again mainly a difference between men and women, in any ethnic group. Testosterone is the main factor that makes the brain specialise in "targeted vision" (for hunting) or broader vision (to watch for predators by detecting small changes in the environment). The only major difference at this level is that Mongoloid people tend to have lower testosterone levels than Caucasians. This would confirm that the current study has some biological roots, not just cultural ones.

That is very interesting, Maciamo. :)
 
Today, a Japanese PhD in Medicine told me the same bullshit story about Asians having genes of farmers and Westerners genes of hunters. I asked her where she got that from, and she said that it is was they were taught in school textbooks, and (hold your breath) also in medical school !! Her view were so simplistic that she said the world was just divided in these two categories. When I asked her whether the Indians were also in the "Asian group", she thought so, and had no idea that Indians and the Europeans were both of Aryan/Caucasian descent, and thus were closer genetically than Indians and Mongoloids. She also had no idea that farming came much later in Japan than in Europe. If a PhD in Medicine can come out with such idiocies of "hunters vs farmers", I suppose that a Japanese PhD is not even worth a European highschool diploma.
 
Haven't you found that sometimes PhDs' knowledge is very specialised? She probably knows a lot about medicine, but not much about anything else. :?
 
Maciamo said:
Today, a Japanese PhD in Medicine told me the same bullshit story about Asians having genes of farmers and Westerners genes of hunters. I asked her where she got that from, and she said that it is was they were taught in school textbooks, and (hold your breath) also in medical school !! Her view were so simplistic that she said the world was just divided in these two categories. When I asked her whether the Indians were also in the "Asian group", she thought so, and had no idea that Indians and the Europeans were both of Aryan/Caucasian descent, and thus were closer genetically than Indians and Mongoloids. She also had no idea that farming came much later in Japan than in Europe. If a PhD in Medicine can come out with such idiocies of "hunters vs farmers", I suppose that a Japanese PhD is not even worth a European highschool diploma.
That's the miracle of money for ya ! ;) And that's also why my teacher Japanese doesn't trust Japanese doctors :p
 
Tsuyoiko said:
Haven't you found that sometimes PhDs' knowledge is very specialised? She probably knows a lot about medicine, but not much about anything else. :?

Yeah, this is about genetics, and she is a researcher about genetical diseases ! It's hard to find someone with more appropriate specialised knowledge on the matter. Putting this in the light of numerous medical malpractices in Japan, I certainly do not want to ever be hospitalised in Japan !
 
Maciamo said:
Yeah, this is about genetics, and she is a researcher about genetical diseases ! It's hard to find someone with more appropriate specialised knowledge on the matter. Putting this in the light of numerous medical malpractices in Japan, I certainly do not want to ever be hospitalised in Japan !
Ah, well that's different then! The health service in the UK is pretty hit-and-miss too.
 
misa.j said:
Yeah, very interesting research. Thanks for posting Rock.


My friend who is a painter(American) told me that he was taught to emphasize the focal point when he paints. I told him that I like placing the main object apart from the middle when I painted, and he said that was because I was Japanese, which I thought was quite interesting.

Im with you on that one Misa, I too prefer to have the main object out from the centre. I dont think its just because you're japanese. Possibly just more creative and interesting.
 
Very, Very interesting, I think it is very interesting focus in education. this a very good forum.
 

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