Discontinuities in Y-DNA in Europe's prehistory

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Thanks, I will fix this later!

 

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Derenburg LBK samples belongs to F*(xG, H1, I, J, K)


This mean K-M9 is discarded, T is downstream K-M9. So, T is discarded.

The most probably haplogroup is H2 but not T. There are no 4 possible T, you should change to H2.

Only 2 could be H2 .............they are deb20 and deb38

there is no call on deb04 and deb10

 

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Maybe they were just basal F*, like Paleolithic Peștera cu Oase from Romania, who was F* xIJK - see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_F-M89

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c....shtml+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=pl&client=opera

The vast majority of individual males with F-M89 fall into its direct descendant Haplogroup GHIJK (F1329/M3658/PF2622/YSC0001299).[8] Apart from GHIJK, Haplogroup F has four other immediate descendant subclades, all of which are rare in modern populations: the basal paragroup F-M89* (M89/PF2746), F1 (P91/P104); F2 (M427/M428) andF3 (M481).

So, it seems that:

Derenburg LBK samples belongs to F*(xG, H1, I, J, K)

Maybe they were descendants of that Paleolithic Romanian - Peștera cu Oase? Perhaps I should count them as red colour (pre-Neolithic European Y-DNA) ??? Or did most of it enter Europe from Anatolia as Neolithic immigration? What do you think about this - were men with F haplogroup Paleolithic (Aurignacian?) "survivors" in Europe, or new Neolithic immigration from outside of Europe?