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Tsuyoiko said:I don't mind using the word 'miracle' to refer to something surprising - like 'it's a miracle I got to work on time with all this traffic'.
Thomas Paine said:We have never seen, in our time, nature go out of her course; but we have good reason to believe that millions of lies have been told in the same time; it is, therefore, at least millions to one, that the reporter of a miracle tells a lie.
sabro said:You guys seem to have such a narrow definition of "miracle." You can feel free to broaden it a bit.
I think this world is a place of surprise, magic and wonder where miracles can be found where ever you look hard enough. Certainly most of them have natural explanations or can be explained by simple coincidence. I doesn't diminish them to me. And the human miracles- the unexpected, sublime, exceptional behaviors of my fellow man- whether it is helping, or healing, or forgiving or achieving- they give me hope.
Luck?....what's luck?
Sabro, if your definition of miracle is broad to the point that it can mean absolutely anything, I don't think the question "Do you believe in Miracles?" is really a valid one anymore. That would be like asking "Do you believe in Goblins?" and then saying that "goblins" can also mean "humans" or "waterfalls". It's simply not a valid question.sabro said:You guys seem to have such a narrow definition of "miracle." You can feel free to broaden it a bit.
I think this world is a place of surprise, magic and wonder where miracles can be found where ever you look hard enough. Certainly most of them have natural explanations or can be explained by simple coincidence. I doesn't diminish them to me. And the human miracles- the unexpected, sublime, exceptional behaviors of my fellow man- whether it is helping, or healing, or forgiving or achieving- they give me hope.
Luck?....what's luck?
kumo said:Sabro, if your definition of miracle is broad to the point that it can mean absolutely anything, I don't think the question "Do you believe in Miracles?" is really a valid one anymore. That would be like asking "Do you believe in Goblins?" and then saying that "goblins" can also mean "humans" or "waterfalls". It's simply not a valid question.
Luck is just a word we use when something good happens by pure chance. No magic here.
Mycernius said:Why do you need to belittle someone strongvoicesforward? There was no reason for the last comment made on your post. At no point was there a personnal attack on you. All you have to do is answer the question, but no you have to drag it down so it turns into YET another confrontation. Doing this is going to make you rapidly loose any credabilty that you might have on this forum. Just another note, Christianity is not the only religion to have miracles in them. You'll find them prevalent in Hindusim, Judaism, Buddhism etc.
strongvoicesforward said:To say a "miracle" is something happening when it has an 80% of not happening is just....errrr... a miraculous leap in faith to expect those who have not relinquished their reason yet to accept.
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