K12b Dodecad K12b from Italy: can you help me?

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Norditaliano

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Component %


Atlantic_Med 37,32%
Caucasus 25,54%
North_European 24,13%
Gedrosia 6,55%
Northwest_African 3,83%
Southwest_Asian 2,63%

Oracle Calculator by www.dnagenics.com
v1.3 01/12/2019


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.


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Mixed Mode:
1 74,61% Baleares_1KG + 25,39% Adygei @ 3,320
2 75,39% Baleares_1KG + 24,61% Balkars_Y @ 3,455
3 75,39% Baleares_1KG + 24,61% North_Ossetians_Y @ 3,569
4 90,23% N_Italian_D + 9,77% Chechens_Y @ 3,985
5 73,05% Galicia_1KG + 26,95% Adygei @ 3,995
6 91,02% N_Italian_D + 8,98% Adygei @ 4,006
7 91,02% N_Italian_D + 8,98% Balkars_Y @ 4,027
8 69,92% Castilla_Y_Leon_1KG + 30,08% Adygei @ 4,028
9 91,02% N_Italian_D + 8,98% North_Ossetians_Y @ 4,030
10 66,80% Cantabria_1KG + 33,20% Adygei @ 4,126


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% N_Italian_D @ 6,396
2 100% O_Italian_D @ 7,985
3 100% TSI30 @ 8,246
4 100% North_Italian @ 8,954
5 100% Tuscan @ 9,672
6 100% C_Italian_D @ 11,877
7 100% Baleares_1KG @ 16,777
8 100% Greek_D @ 17,885
9 100% Galicia_1KG @ 18,496
10 100% Bulgarians_Y @ 18,522


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% N_Italian_D + 50% O_Italian_D @ 5,199
2 50% Bulgarian_D + 50% Andalucia_1KG @ 5,488
3 50% Bulgarians_Y + 50% Andalucia_1KG @ 5,629
4 50% Sicilian_D + 50% French @ 5,791
5 50% O_Italian_D + 50% North_Italian @ 5,884
6 50% Greek_D + 50% Extremadura_1KG @ 5,944
7 50% Sicilian_D + 50% French_D @ 5,964
8 50% Baleares_1KG + 50% Greek_D @ 6,208
9 50% N_Italian_D + 50% TSI30 @ 6,229
10 50% Greek_D + 50% Cataluna_1KG @ 6,242


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Norwegian_D + 33% Sardinian + 33% Adygei @ 4,080
2 33% C_Italian_D + 33% Romanians + 33% Andalucia_1KG @ 4,104
3 33% Cantabria_1KG + 33% Cantabria_1KG + 33% Adygei @ 4,132
4 33% C_Italian_D + 33% Bulgarians_Y + 33% Andalucia_1KG @ 4,145
5 33% Spanish_D + 33% Cantabria_1KG + 33% Adygei @ 4,202
6 33% Cantabria_1KG + 33% Cantabria_1KG + 33% Balkars_Y @ 4,226
7 33% Norwegian_D + 33% Sardinian + 33% Balkars_Y @ 4,254
8 33% Tuscan + 33% Bulgarians_Y + 33% Andalucia_1KG @ 4,282
9 33% Spanish_D + 33% Cantabria_1KG + 33% Balkars_Y @ 4,354
10 33% Cantabria_1KG + 33% Cantabria_1KG + 33% North_Ossetians_Y @ 4,449


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Adygei @ 3,324
2 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Galicia_1KG + 25% Adygei @ 3,375
3 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Balkars_Y @ 3,449
4 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Galicia_1KG + 25% Balkars_Y @ 3,516
5 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% North_Ossetians_Y @ 3,579
6 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Galicia_1KG + 25% North_Ossetians_Y @ 3,645
7 25% Valencia_1KG + 25% Valencia_1KG + 25% Hungarians + 25% Armenians @ 3,845
8 25% Aragon_1KG + 25% Aragon_1KG + 25% Hungarians + 25% Armenians @ 4,019
9 25% Cantabria_1KG + 25% Cantabria_1KG + 25% Hungarians + 25% Armenians @ 4,122
10 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Baleares_1KG + 25% Chechens_Y @ 4,221
 
Try these with your Eurogenes K13, Eurogenes and Dodecad K12b results.

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh

With your K12b results you get Veneto as first. Are you from Veneto, right?

You are a Venetian more in the direction of the Po Valley than of the Friulians and Northeastern Alps.

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Thank you brick!
Yes, I'm from Veneto, Po Valley.
Ciao!
 
Dodecad K12b updated:

Distance to:O_Italian
2.54699823Italy_Romagna
3.84609724Italy_Lazio
4.07360258Italy_Marche
4.71072500Italy_Tuscany
..............


O_Italian,6.21,0.00,1.10,0.00,33.53,21.82,0.00,0.20,7.81,0.00,28.53,0.80
 
Padua, and where are you from?
In my K12b results there is "O_Italian" in "Using 1 populations", what means?

"O_Italians" means other italians, i.e. italians who lived in countries which had italians for centuries, but bordering with France, Swiss, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia...

If i remember correctly Torzio and/or Pax have explained to me elsewhere that it usually reveals a shift towards Eastern / Balkan Europe, and using this calculator with its old spreadsheet, it's quite frequent for it to appear to individuals from eastern Italy. (In fact, it also appears to me as first result: I'm from Romagna and Ferrara.)
 
Dodecad K12b updated:

Distance to:O_Italian
2.54699823Italy_Romagna
3.84609724Italy_Lazio
4.07360258Italy_Marche
4.71072500Italy_Tuscany
..............


O_Italian,6.21,0.00,1.10,0.00,33.53,21.82,0.00,0.20,7.81,0.00,28.53,0.80

thanks

mine with O_Italian

interesting that O_Italian is positioned near Albanians ............should its numbers be noted as more "southern italian" ?

Distance to:Torziok12b
2.57738938Italy_FriuliVG
2.91721398Italy_Veneto
3.15360272Italy_Piedmont
4.32371831Italy_Trentino
5.21059138Swiss_Italian
5.62034319Italy_Lombardy
6.33094275Italy_Liguria
6.64383556Italy_Emilia
6.96106620Italy_Aosta_Valley
8.00853232Italy_Tuscany
9.92698343Italy_Romagna
10.18906767Albanian_North
10.24966341
O_Italian
10.43786377Albanian_Kosovo
12.60738569Italy_Lazio
12.62090393France_Corsica
13.19928475Italy_Marche
16.27628950Romanians
16.46947479Baleares
17.05822969Galicia
17.07617053Bulgarian
17.12228373Bulgarians
17.86829035Extremadura
17.92111604French
18.06615344Bosnian


Distance to:TrentinoCles
4.14305918Italy_Veneto
4.66815569Italy_Lombardy
4.82467099Italy_Liguria
5.11384405Italy_Emilia
5.48084210Italy_Piedmont
5.74693571Italy_Tuscany
6.15176853Italy_FriuliVG
6.62085059Swiss_Italian
7.19608922Italy_Trentino
7.22083098Italy_Romagna
7.25928371
O_Italian
8.36066385Albanian_North
8.65458260Albanian_Kosovo
9.52751048France_Corsica
10.31492336Italy_Lazio
10.43859943Italy_Marche
10.90779287Italy_Aosta_Valley
15.78782442Bulgarians
16.05068558Italy_Abruzzo
16.17671784Romanians
16.32011642Greek
16.48539353Bulgarian
17.40113812Italy_Apulia
17.86779785Baleares
18.69366914Italy_Campania
 
thanks

mine with O_Italian

interesting that O_Italian is positioned near Albanians ............should its numbers be noted as more "southern italian" ?

Distance to:Torziok12b
2.57738938Italy_FriuliVG
2.91721398Italy_Veneto
3.15360272Italy_Piedmont
4.32371831Italy_Trentino
5.21059138Swiss_Italian
5.62034319Italy_Lombardy
6.33094275Italy_Liguria
6.64383556Italy_Emilia
6.96106620Italy_Aosta_Valley
8.00853232Italy_Tuscany
9.92698343Italy_Romagna
10.18906767Albanian_North
10.24966341
O_Italian
10.43786377Albanian_Kosovo
12.60738569Italy_Lazio
12.62090393France_Corsica
13.19928475Italy_Marche
16.27628950Romanians
16.46947479Baleares
17.05822969Galicia
17.07617053Bulgarian
17.12228373Bulgarians
17.86829035Extremadura
17.92111604French
18.06615344Bosnian


Distance to:TrentinoCles
4.14305918Italy_Veneto
4.66815569Italy_Lombardy
4.82467099Italy_Liguria
5.11384405Italy_Emilia
5.48084210Italy_Piedmont
5.74693571Italy_Tuscany
6.15176853Italy_FriuliVG
6.62085059Swiss_Italian
7.19608922Italy_Trentino
7.22083098Italy_Romagna
7.25928371
O_Italian
8.36066385Albanian_North
8.65458260Albanian_Kosovo
9.52751048France_Corsica
10.31492336Italy_Lazio
10.43859943Italy_Marche
10.90779287Italy_Aosta_Valley
15.78782442Bulgarians
16.05068558Italy_Abruzzo
16.17671784Romanians
16.32011642Greek
16.48539353Bulgarian
17.40113812Italy_Apulia
17.86779785Baleares
18.69366914Italy_Campania

No, it shouldn't.
 
Good afternoon. Let me say upfront, I am new here only 3 months so if I screw up with forum protocol, please let me know. My ancestors all immigrated to USA between 1890 and 1903. My Fathers family (Paternal Grandfather side from Trapani Province, Paternal Grandmother from Agrigento and Palermo provinces). My Mothers family all from Palermo Region (Palazzo Adriano where Tornatore filed Cinama Paradiso). I spent 3 weeks in Sicily last summer doing family research and was told consistently that my name is not common in Sicily (name in USA got messed up). I found the correct spelling of my Great Grandfathers name (2 similar spellings were used in Trapani) but the original one actually is a name that is very, very, common in Campania, which might explain my results. I am aware of the extant research that shows a homogeneous genetic cluster from Southern Italy to Sicily, which might partially explain my results. So since there are posters here with way more expertise in this forum than me, any comments are theories you might have would be appreciated. Cheers.

Distance to:PalermoTrapani
3.56228943Italy_Campania
3.83059103Italy_Abruzzo
4.03985458Italy_Sicily
5.85659507Italy_Calabria
6.30021809Italy_Apulia
7.04316676Italy_Marche
7.65791512Italy_Lazio
9.80278022Ashkenazi
10.34941544Ashkenazy_Jews
10.37221770Greek_Crete
10.45749014Italy_Romagna
10.84031826Greek
11.64560432Sephardic_Jews
12.53945374Morocco_Jews
12.70455178France_Corsica
13.19014973Italy_Tuscany
14.40640483Crimean_Tatar_Coast
14.95868467Italy_Emilia
15.08634150Albanian_Kosovo
15.59318961Italy_Liguria
16.41356147Albanian_North
18.41201781Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
18.60377267Italy_Lombardy
18.76349355Italy_Piedmont
18.91861555Italy_Veneto
 
Thank you ragazzi, and Adygei and TSI30 what means?

Iirc Adygei is in the north caucasus area.....i was once marked as Balkar also a north caucasus people
 
Dodecad K12b from Italy can you help me

I have a friend who owns this bowie and he is wondering who made it. Can you help me I.D. the maker from the logo on the blade?Thanks for any help anyone might be able to give.
 

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