Eurogenes East European admixture in Eurogenes K10

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I found a lot of Scandinavian kits using "One-to-many" search option in GEDmatch.

I checked how much of East European do these Scandinavians get in Eurogenes K10:

Kit - ethnicity - East European %:

T863*** - Norwegian - 46.67%
T837*** - Norwegian - 44.77%
T488*** - Norwegian - 44.16%
T550*** - Norwegian - 44.03%
T832*** - Swedish - 43.75%
T175*** - Norwegian - 43.39%
T391*** - Norwegian - 43.00%
T235*** - Norwegian - 39.29%
H280*** - Norwegian - 38.36%
T220*** - Swedish - 35.80%
T425*** - Norwegian - 35.49%
T583*** - Norwegian - 35.43%
T134*** - Swedish - 33.51%
A989*** - Norwegian - 33.18%
T702*** - Norwegian - 33.09%
T398*** - Swedish - 33.06%
T753*** - Swedish - 31.76%
T926*** - Swedish - 31.38%
T241*** - Swedish - 31.13%
T941*** - Swedish - 30.90%
T931*** - Swedish - 30.85%
T204*** - Norwegian - 30.47%
T512*** - Swedish - 30.33%
T955*** - Swedish - 30.23%
T975*** - Swedish - 30.16%
T905*** - Norwegian - 30.02%
Z711*** - Norwegian - 29.93%
T035*** - Norwegian - 29.71%
T256*** - Swedish - 29.00%
T753*** - Norwegian - 28.58%
T822*** - Swedish - 28.53%
T142*** - Swedish - 28.20%
T664*** - Norwegian - 28.09%
T404*** - Norwegian - 27.29%
F367*** - Swedish - 27.27%
M873*** - Norwegian - 27.09%
M606*** - Swedish - 26.55%
T262*** - Norwegian - 26.48%
T346*** - Norwegian - 26.08%
M351*** - Norwegian - 24.54%
T269*** - Northern Dutch - 24.49%
T560*** - Norwegian - 22.55%
T293*** - Frisian (Denmark) - 21.22%

What's interesting is that there are more Norwegians than Swedes scoring >40% of it.

Perhaps I just did not manage to find any Northern (and North-Eastern) Swedes?

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By comparison my own results in K10:

East European - 44.48%
 
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Yea makes a lot more sense , I don't know what dienkes was doing when he created the spreadsheet for dodecad.

My father's results K10
Population
South Asian 1.10
Caucasus 6.95
Southwest Asian 2.59
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.33
Siberian 0.77
Mediterranean 12.76
East Asian 0.34
West African -
East European 39.78
North Atlantic 35.39

Can you share your total percentages?
 
My grandmother's K10 results for comparison. Her ancestry is mostly British isles.
Population
South Asian -
Caucasus 9.13
Southwest Asian 2.25
North Amerindian + Arctic -
Siberian 0.15
Mediterranean 14.37
East Asian -
West African -
East European 19.35
North Atlantic 54.71
 
My total percentages:

East European 44.48
North Atlantic 34.53
Mediterranean 11.34
Caucasus 7.61
Southwest Asian 1.32
South Asian 0.43
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.29
 

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Population[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"][/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]South Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]1.82[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Caucasus[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]24.79[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Southwest Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]11.78[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Amerindian + Arctic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]0.46[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Siberian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]-[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]26.04[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]-[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]West African[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]0.12[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"] East European [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"] 10.56 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Atlantic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]24.43[/TD]
 
My results.


[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Population[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"] [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]South Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]0.41[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Caucasus[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]4.80[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Southwest Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]1.60[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Amerindian + Arctic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]0.57[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Siberian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]0.44[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]12.09[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]0.71[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]West African[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]0.32[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East European[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]37.34[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Atlantic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]41.72[/TD]
 
Results for an ethnic pole from western Ukraine Zydaczow


[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Population[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"] [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]South Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]0.17[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Caucasus[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]8.35[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Southwest Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]2.33[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Amerindian + Arctic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]0.40[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Siberian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]12.83[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]0.90[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]West African[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]0.23[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East European[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]42.48[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Atlantic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]32.31[/TD]
 
Ukrainian results from Kiev


[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Population[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"] [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]South Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]1.33[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Caucasus[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]9.04[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Southwest Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]1.96[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Amerindian + Arctic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]0.97[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Siberian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]1.81[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]9.73[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]West African[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East European[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]48.43[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Atlantic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]26.73[/TD]
 
K10 results for Belarusian

Eurogenes k10

Population
South Asian0.75
Caucasus4.16
Southwest Asian0.18
North Amerindian + Arctic0.44
Siberian1.41
Mediterranean8.25
East Asian-
West African0.35
East European55.88
North Atlantic28.57
 
Me:


[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]South Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]0.90[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Caucasus[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]6.22[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Southwest Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]3.44[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Amerindian + Arctic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]0.70[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Siberian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]-[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]11.90[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]-[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]West African[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]-[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East European[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]38.96[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Atlantic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]37.83[/TD]

--EDIT
I made average Czech (21 samples):
[TABLE="width: 208"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Average Czech[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]N. ATLANTIC[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]37.72 [/TD]
[TD](30.06 - 42.8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]E EURO[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]38.32 [/TD]
[TD](31.95 - 43.35)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MEDIT[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13.17 [/TD]
[TD](9.25 - 16.16)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CAUCASUS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.77 [/TD]
[TD](4.69 - 12.26)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SW ASIAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.33 [/TD]
[TD](0 - 3.44)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]S ASIAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.93 [/TD]
[TD](0 - 2.54)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SIBERIAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.15 [/TD]
[TD](0 - 0.79)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]E ASIAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.05 [/TD]
[TD](0 - 0.55)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]N. AMERIND[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.43 [/TD]
[TD](0 - 0.94)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]W AFRICAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.12 [/TD]
[TD](0 - 0.58)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Syky said:
Me:


[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]South Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]0.90[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Caucasus[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]6.22[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Southwest Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]3.44[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Amerindian + Arctic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]0.70[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Siberian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]11.90[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]West African[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East European[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]38.96[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Atlantic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]37.83[/TD]
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Can you do a Czech average? Also if you could separate Moravians and Bohemians. I think Moravians are going to be just like Slovaks but Bohemians will be a bit different. I keep trying to find Slovak samples on gedmatch through my father's kits. It seems Slovaks never take genetic tests. All I get are southern poles and Western ukrainians
 
Sorry I didn't catch your quick answer. I edited my post. Separation is difficult, because I don't know who is really Moravian/Bohemian. I am Moravian and only one or two samples are clearly Moravians too:

[TABLE="width: 192"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 64"]N. ATLANTIC[/TD]
[TD="width: 64, align: right"]32.95[/TD]
[TD="width: 64, align: right"]34.62[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]E EURO[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]43.35[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]40.18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]MEDIT[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12.22[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12.3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]CAUCASUS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.84[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.72[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]SW ASIAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.87[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.98[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]S ASIAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.75[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]SIBERIAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.72[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.35[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]E ASIAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.55[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]N. AMERIND[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.73[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.43[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]W AFRICAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.41[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
this is a southern pole. His father was from Tarnow and mother from Jaslo poland. His results would fit with in the czech ( and im assuming Slovak) range. Its funny because people always like to seperate poles and say they are all more like east slavs genetically but southern poles and even west poles seem to be closer to slovaks and czechs which make sense.

K10


[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Population[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"] [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]South Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]0.18[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Caucasus[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]5.05[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Southwest Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]1.24[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Amerindian + Arctic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Siberian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]12.56[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East Asian[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]West African[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]- [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]East European[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]42.26[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]North Atlantic[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]38.71[/TD]
 
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This is actually really interesting, but I wonder if these results change depending on the farther down you are in Eastern Europe. Also where did he get these results what company did he use? If he took DNA.
 
tahir0010 said:
This is actually really interesting, but I wonder if these results change depending on the farther down you are in Eastern Europe. Also where did he get these results what company did he use? If he took DNA.
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Was this addressed at my last post? Yes it is interesting. This particular person tested with 23 and me. Tomenable would have to share balkan countries K10 results as I dont have any balkan kits. I'm sure their med is elevated and eastern euro reduced
 
I think Balkan is a bit less ANE and much more Basal, so I think they will have much more Caucasus, a bit more Med and some SW Asian, a bit less Eastern. This is my guess.
 
Ten slovak ruthenian samples from far east slovakia. Some have ancestry from ruthenians in the carpathians on the polish and ukrainian side of the border. I put them in R and created an average. Its interesting how low of North Atlantic they have compared to czechs, Slovaks, and Poles, and how there med and west asian admix is elevated


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Average
South Asian 2.07 0.24 1.10 0.00 1.06 0.71 0.66 0.86 1.93 1.68 1.031
Caucasus 8.56 7.39 9.71 8.89 7.50 10.47 8.99 8.70 8.62 8.94 8.777
Southwest Asian 2.26 3.80 1.40 1.44 3.01 1.54 1.57 0.72 0.34 3.56 1.964
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.60 0.00 0.32 1.65 0.00 1.02 0.00 0.00 1.20 0.00 0.479
Siberian 1.36 2.14 1.21 1.61 0.00 0.82 0.40 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.754
Mediterranean 15.34 12.51 13.62 14.32 15.02 14.30 16.85 16.68 14.03 13.89 14.656
East Asian 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.81 0.00 1.24 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.305
West African 0.00 0.24 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.19 0.00 0.48 0.00 0.091
East European 40.30 43.19 42.57 39.38 45.36 42.02 39.17 38.30 47.77 40.50 41.856
North Atlantic 29.51 30.17 30.06 32.72 26.23 29.12 30.92 34.73 25.65 31.43 30.054
 
Wow, how did you get so many Rusyn samples in just few days?
 
Syky said:
Wow, how did you get so many Rusyn samples in just few days?
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Actually the kit u sent me never responded but through my dad's kit I somehow came into contact with an American ruthenian who runs a Carpathian rusyn project :)
 
Rusyns are cool and very temperament guys :) Many of them study in Prague.
 
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