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Face Preference Test
- Thread starter Jovialis
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I found the questions of this test extremely difficult to answer. They give us the context of belonging to a hunter-gathering tribe, but that would be impossible to answer fairly the questions in this context as I have not grown up or lived in a hunter-gathering tribe and we have thinking, behaving and resolving conflicts in such a society is completely different from a modern society.
Consequently I answered the questions as if the problems were similar but happening in a modern Western society, with all the laws and the rules that exist at present.
I chose the feminine/female face whenever the problem related to relationships, managing emotions/feelings, and diplomacy/cooperation, regardless of whether it was within the group or with outsiders.
Likewise I chose the masculine/male face for matters involving problem solving, response to catastrophes, construction (granary), and geography (hunting ground, river).
I suppose that it is not at all how most people answer the questions but that is what is the most logical for me, as male and female brains work differently and it is better to assign tasks based on what they are the best at dealing with.
Consequently I answered the questions as if the problems were similar but happening in a modern Western society, with all the laws and the rules that exist at present.
I chose the feminine/female face whenever the problem related to relationships, managing emotions/feelings, and diplomacy/cooperation, regardless of whether it was within the group or with outsiders.
Likewise I chose the masculine/male face for matters involving problem solving, response to catastrophes, construction (granary), and geography (hunting ground, river).
I suppose that it is not at all how most people answer the questions but that is what is the most logical for me, as male and female brains work differently and it is better to assign tasks based on what they are the best at dealing with.
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Your OUT-GROUP DOMINANCE PERCENTAGE is: 66.7
Your TOTAL DOMINANCE PERCENTAGE is: 50
Like most people, you prefer a cooperative leader to deal with internal issues.
Like most people, you prefer a dominant leader to deal with external threats.
Overall, your choice of leaders suggests that you are politically left-wing.
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Hey, now that I have your attention, could you explain how you could have the audacity to attack my models, when you are using garbage-tier Right groups like this? Are you kidding me?
c("Belgium_SintTruiden_EarlyModern.SG")
left = c("Denmark_Jutland_IA.SG",
"Netherlands_MIA_LIA.AG",
"France_IA_Hallstat.SG",
"Italy_Imperial_oAnatoliaCaucasus.SG")
right = c("Mbuti.DG", "Sweden_LM_EN.SG",
"Denmark_Jutland_EIA.SG",
"Czechia_LBA_Knoviz.AG", "Sweden_LN_BA.SG",
"Czechia_EBA_Unetice.AG",
"Croatia_Jagodnjak_MBA.SG", "France_MN.AG",
"Israel_Natufian_I1072.AG",
"Turkey_Marmara_Barcin_N.AG",
"Netherlands_MBA.AG", "Netherlands_LBA.AG",
"Czechia_N.AG",
"Turkey_Central_CamlibelTarlasi_C.AG",
"Armenia_Berkaber_KuraAraxes_EBA.AG",
"Austria_IA_Hallstat.SG")
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I'm genuinely curious to see if this would even pass qpwave, considering the egregious amount of overlap. I tried to test it myself, but since you are using a modified FAM, with no reference to the samples used, that is not possible.
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Your models pass modern Albanians as 100% Logkas_MBA...
To be fair, I was doing (quite literally everything) to decrease standard errors on the model. To answer your question on it passing on qpWave, the answer is yes.
Also, where do you think that the eastern Mediterranean admixture in Italians comes from? I was under the impression that you believed it comes entirely from Mycenaeans/other ancient Greek groups (i.e, Minoans), rather than from a combination of sources.
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In that case, sorry I was sharp with you. I think there may have just been a misunderstanding. But if you look at this post you can see it was present at notable amounts even at the ethnogenesis of the Etruscans, who had at least 14.5% CHG + 49.5% Sardinian_N and 36.4% Germany_Bellbeaker in a viable model, with others requiring about 5-10% Iran_N with Beaker and Yamna combos.
It has be coming indirectly via farming groups for over 10,000 years. You can see that from Italy, to the Balkans, the local farmers require extra CHG compared to EEF, which is actually ANF mixed with WHG that arrived in earlier migrations.
It has be coming indirectly via farming groups for over 10,000 years. You can see that from Italy, to the Balkans, the local farmers require extra CHG compared to EEF, which is actually ANF mixed with WHG that arrived in earlier migrations.
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To be fair, it's not like I wasn't hostile either. If anything, I was more hostile than you.
You also have to consider that Etruscans/and other Italy_BA-IA groups are Bell Beaker rich, so a significant amount of their EEF admixture is coming from the GAC/TRB cultures (AKA, the kind of EEF admixture observed in northern/western Europeans), meaning that a significant amount of the EEF admixture we see in BA and IA Italians are coming from Bell Beakers. There was also significant replacement of the Chalcolithic Italian genepool via migrations from Chalcolithic Anatolians combined with migrations from Bell Beakers (from northern Europe).
(PianSultano_BA rejects Anatolia_C)
(model 2 is a fail)
For the model on Dutch Beakers:
right = c("Mbuti.DG", "Italy_Epigravettian.SG", "Turkey_Epipaleolithic.AG", "Israel_Natufian_I1072.AG", "Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.AG", "Russia_ANE.SG", "Russia_BPGroup.AG", "Morocco_Iberomaurusian_TAF014.AG")
For the models involving BA/IA Italians:
right = c("Mbuti.DG", "Italy_Epigravettian.SG", "Turkey_Epipaleolithic.AG", "Israel_Natufian_I1072.AG", "Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.AG", "Russia_ANE.SG", "Kazakhstan_Botai_Eneolithic.SG", "Morocco_Iberomaurusian_TAF014.AG", "Iraq_PPNA.AG")
