Wilhelm
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- Spain
- Ethnic group
- Celtiberians
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1b-S26
- mtDNA haplogroup
- H1
But of course southern Europeans are closer to the Levant. It's simply due to their greater proximity and colonisation patterns of early farmers, then the Phoenicians and Greeks. In fact, from a genetic point of view the Greeks are generally considered more Levantine/Near-Easterners than Europeans. Although not properly Middle-Eastern, they are indubitably closer to the Turks, and possibly also Syrian and Lebanese (at least the ancient ones, prior to the Arabic expansion) than to northern Europeans.
Iberians though, despite being southern Europeans, are closer to the French or Brits and more distant to the Levantines because of the distance from the Near East. Austrians and Bavarians have as much, if not more Near-Eastern blood than most Spaniards.
What is important to understand (and accept) is that all Europeans have some fairly recent (Neolithic or Bronze Age) Near-Eastern ancestors. The Finns have the least Near-Eastern blood, but on the other hand have a substanstial percentage of Siberian (Mongoloid) ancestry. There are no "pure" Europeans. In fact, the dominant Western European haplogroup, R1b, could be considered Middle Eastern in origins, since all R1b people lived somewhere between Anatolia and Afghanistan during the Ice Age, and only left Anatolia for Europe about 5000 years ago. With that in mind, there is no denying that even the Irish or the Danes are quite Middle Eastern.
well,
Levant people, including Turks, have haplogroups wich are absent or very low in Southern Europe. For example, the y-dna L , the y-dna J1 , y-dna N, and others.
Also one has to consider the Cohen Modal Haplotype (CMH) absent in all Europe, but present in the Levant, among Jews, Palestinians and middle-easterns.
Also , like you said Spain is more of an Atlantic country than Mediterrenean, genetically speaking.
Like you said, it is closer to Brits of French. That's is something some people can't or don't want to understand.
Italians are also closer to other Europeans, at least in the half north of the Peninsula
As for the mtDNA, all souther europeans are typically euroepan and closer to other europeans.
But that's when it comes to Haplogroups. If we talk a about alleles, clusters and distances , it's clear that Greeks, Italians are closer to other europeans than to Levant people, thus falling into the European clusters.