G25 G25 Illustrativedna Like Ancient Calculator by Ivorix the Celt

[qh777]

Calculateur ExploreYourDNA - IllustrativeDNA-Like Ancient calculator (Ivorix TheCelt)

www.exploreyourdna.com

If you all acquired your g25 coords from another source and haven't used Illustrativedna,com, then this list prepared produces very similar results that one would get on that site. It mimics the customizable ancient ancestry portion of the site along with closest ancient.
The list seems to be missing a few samples that Illustrative recently added.

 

[Kari]

Target: Kari Distance: 0.0337% / 0.00033734
25.8	Byzantine*Anatolia*(AD*500–1100)
13.4	Roman*Anatolia*(100*BC–AD*700)
12.0	Baltic*(AD*260–540)
9.6	Thracian*(1100–200*BC)
7.6	Slavic*(AD*540–1270)
4.2	Greek*(770–400*BC)
4.0	Roman*Illyria*(AD*100–600)
3.6	Slavic*(AD*540–1100)
3.0	Baltic*(AD*900–1050)
3.0	Sicani*(900–400*BC)
2.8	Italian*(AD*650–1450)
2.6	Iberian*(AD*300–1200)
2.4	Balkans*(AD*500–1000)
1.4	European*Jew*(AD*1160–1400)
1.4	Roman*Italy*(20*BC–AD*600)
0.8	Arabian*Peninsula
0.8	North*Caucasian*(AD*650–1160)
0.6	Roman*Iberia*(AD*260–500)
0.4	Germanic*(AD*700–1000)
0.2	Italic*and*Etruscan*(900–200*BC)
0.2	Sardinian*(1100–300*BC)
0.2	Southeast*Asian*(2000*BC–AD*1800)

 

[qh777]

Target: Kari Distance: 0.0337% / 0.00033734
25.8	Byzantine*Anatolia*(AD*500–1100)
13.4	Roman*Anatolia*(100*BC–AD*700)
12.0	Baltic*(AD*260–540)
9.6	Thracian*(1100–200*BC)
7.6	Slavic*(AD*540–1270)
4.2	Greek*(770–400*BC)
4.0	Roman*Illyria*(AD*100–600)
3.6	Slavic*(AD*540–1100)
3.0	Baltic*(AD*900–1050)
3.0	Sicani*(900–400*BC)
2.8	Italian*(AD*650–1450)
2.6	Iberian*(AD*300–1200)
2.4	Balkans*(AD*500–1000)
1.4	European*Jew*(AD*1160–1400)
1.4	Roman*Italy*(20*BC–AD*600)
0.8	Arabian*Peninsula
0.8	North*Caucasian*(AD*650–1160)
0.6	Roman*Iberia*(AD*260–500)
0.4	Germanic*(AD*700–1000)
0.2	Italic*and*Etruscan*(900–200*BC)
0.2	Sardinian*(1100–300*BC)
0.2	Southeast*Asian*(2000*BC–AD*1800)

Could you reduce to 5,4,3 then 2 populations

 

[Kari]

Could you reduce to 5,4,3 then 2 populations

I dont know how to do a 2way model in vahaduo

Target: Kari Distance: 0.2304% / 0.00230445 | R3P
54.4	Roman*Anatolia*(100*BC–AD*700)
36.2	Slavic*(AD*540–1270)
9.4	Sicani*(900–400*BC)

Target: Kari Distance: 0.1727% / 0.00172729 | R4P
38.8	Roman*Anatolia*(100*BC–AD*700)
32.8	Slavic*(AD*540–1270)
17.0	Roman*Italy*(20*BC–AD*600)
11.4	Thracian*(1100–200*BC)

Target: Kari Distance: 0.1045% / 0.00104525 | R5P
42.6	Roman*Anatolia*(100*BC–AD*700)
16.0	Thracian*(1100–200*BC)
15.6	Slavic*(AD*540–1270)
13.2	Baltic*(AD*260–540)
12.6	Italian*(AD*650–1450)

 

[qh777]

I dont know how to do a 2way model in vahaduo

It's a different version of Vahaduo than what is present on that site

https://promotopic.com/calculator/vahd.html

This one Jovialis shared in another thread ^

The standard Vahaduo only let's one reduced to 3,4, and 5 populations.
the one I linked above allows one to reduce to 7,6,5,4,3, and 2 populations and has a special 2way tab.
With a list like the one I linked in my OP it can crash the 2way tab calculator lol. I reduced the list down to 920 and max output of 10 and got it to work but took a few minutes. I've crashed it with only 300-400 samples too but with max output of 25-30

 

[Kari]

It's a different version of Vahaduo than what is present on that site

https://promotopic.com/calculator/vahd.html

This one Jovialis shared in another thread ^

The standard Vahaduo only let's one reduced to 3,4, and 5 populations.
the one I linked above allows one to reduce to 7,6,5,4,3, and 2 populations and has a special 2way tab.
With a list like the one I linked in my OP it can crash the 2way tab calculator lol. I reduced the list down to 920 and max output of 10 and got it to work but took a few minutes. I've crashed it with only 300-400 samples too but with max output of 25-30

View attachment 14947

Target: Kari Distance: 0.0051% / 0.00506601 | R2P
63.0	Roman*Anatolia*(100*BC–AD*700)
37.0	Slavic*(AD*540–1270)

 

[Ivorix]

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0061% / 0.00609623
23.9 Germanic*(AD*100–630)
19.2 Germanic*(AD*700–1000)
14.5 Sardinian*(AD*770–1000)
12.7 Balkans*(AD*500–1000)
12.7 Iberian*(AD*300–1200)
9.2 Italian*(AD*650–1450)
7.8 Italic*and*Etruscan*(900–200*BC)

 

[qh777]

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0061% / 0.00609623
23.9 Germanic*(AD*100–630)
19.2 Germanic*(AD*700–1000)
14.5 Sardinian*(AD*770–1000)
12.7 Balkans*(AD*500–1000)
12.7 Iberian*(AD*300–1200)
9.2 Italian*(AD*650–1450)
7.8 Italic*and*Etruscan*(900–200*BC)

Are you the Author of the list?

 

[Ivorix]

Are you the Author of the list?

Yes, but i also had help from reddit.

 

[qh777]

Yes, but i also had help from reddit.

I think you did a great job with it! It’s a great alternative if you don’t want to pay for another dna admix report.

 

[torzio]

Distance to:	Veritus_scaled
0.02612948	Roman*Pannonia*(AD*130–600)annonia:AUT_Wels:R10666
0.02704942	Roman*Pannonia*(AD*130–600)annonia:SVK_Tes_Mlynany:R2210
0.02777300	Roman*Pannonia*(AD*130–600)annonia:HRV_Scitarjevo:R3659
0.02825767	Italian*(AD*650–1450):North*Italian*(Longobard*Period):ITA_Collegno_MA:CL23
0.02965054	Roman*Pannonia*(AD*130–600)annonia:HRV_Osijek:R3655
0.02965388	Roman*Illyria*(AD*100–600):Roman*Illyria:HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2040
0.03005429	Illyrian*(750–200*BC):North*Illyrian:HRV_EIA
0.03031161	Illyrian*(750–200*BC):North*Illyrian:HRV_IAnew
0.03320909	Balkans*(AD*500–1000):Balkans:HRV_Sipar:R3663__AD_781__Coverage_41.88%
0.03320909	Roman*Illyria*(AD*100–600):Roman*Illyria:HRV_Sipar:R3663
0.03454477	France*(AD*130–1400):France*(AD*130–1400):FRA_Sarrebourg:R11554__AD_272__Coverage_63.24%
0.03454477	Roman*Gaul*(AD*130–500):Roman*Gaul:FRA_Sarrebourg:R11554
0.03473284	France*(AD*130–1400):France*(AD*130–1400):FRA_Sarrebourg:R11555__AD_272__Coverage_48.51%
0.03473284	Roman*Gaul*(AD*130–500):Roman*Gaul:FRA_Sarrebourg:R11555
0.03498766	Iberian*(AD*300–1200):Iberian*(AD*300–1200):Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892__AD_1000__Coverage_47.51%
0.03534350	Roman*Pannonia*(AD*130–600)annonia:SVK_Tes_Mlynany:R2206
0.03551237	Balkans*(AD*500–1000):Balkans:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2053__AD_468__Coverage_65.65%
0.03551237	Roman*Illyria*(AD*100–600):Roman*Illyria:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2053
0.03560133	Italian*(AD*650–1450):North*Italian*(Longobard*Period):ITA_Collegno_MA:CL36
0.03759534	Roman*Illyria*(AD*100–600):Roman*Illyria:SRB_Viminacium:R9669
0.03782312	Illyrian*(750–200*BC):South*Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc
0.03799524	Roman*Illyria*(AD*100–600):Roman*Illyria:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3747
0.03861143	Roman*Illyria*(AD*100–600):Roman*Illyria:SRB_Svilos_Krusevlje:R6693
0.04027615	Roman*Illyria*(AD*100–600):Roman*Illyria:SRB_Svilos_Krusevlje:R6701
0.04093368	Paeonian*(750–100*BC)aeonian:MKD_Anc

 

[qh777]

There’s been a couple updates on illustrative. If you look at my results you’ll see the insular Celt samples from the Iron Age broke down by specific tribe. The recent update removed the specific Briton tribe coords and they averaged them all together and changed the name to Iron Age Briton which changed my distance to 0.023 or 2.3

 

[torzio]

Target: Veritus_scaled Distance: 0.7155% / 0.00715479

22.2	Roman*Pannonia*(AD*130–600)
14.8	Roman*Illyria*(AD*100–600)
9.0	Italic*and*Etruscan*(900–200*BC)
8.8	Insular*Celt*(AD*100–1000)
7.6	Baltic*(AD*260–540)
7.4	Iberian*(AD*300–1200)
6.8	Byzantine*Anatolia*(AD*500–1100)
6.4	Balkans*(AD*500–1000)
4.0	Roman*Anatolia*(100*BC–AD*700)
3.2	Italian*(AD*650–1450)
2.8	Germanic*(AD*100–630)
1.6	Pict*(AD*300–500)
1.4	Khwarazm*and*Transoxiana*(100*BC–AD*950)
1.4	Sardinian*(1100–300*BC)
1.2	Continental*Celt*(800–50*BC)
1.2	Indian*Subcontinent*(AD*690–990)
0.2	Roman*Gaul*(AD*130–500)

 

[torzio]

I always get Wels sample from Austria

But my year is always between 1100BC to 1300BC

 

[qh777]

They've added these to IllustrativeDNA:

Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG001.A,0.127482,0.139128,0.055437,0.044897,0.040315,0.016733,0.00235,0.007615,0.001636,-0.000729,-0.007307,0.002997,-0.005203,-0.010459,0.019679,0.010475,-0.007562,0.005448,0.008045,0.007879,0.013726,0.000989,-0.005423,0.011327,0.001796
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG002.A,0.132035,0.135065,0.058831,0.050711,0.038469,0.01506,0.00611,0.002769,0.005727,0.000364,-0.001461,0.002847,-0.012636,-0.01156,0.018594,0.000265,-0.028554,0.010515,0.006788,0.003001,0.004118,0.006925,0.008258,0.013857,0.001197
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG003.A,0.125205,0.13405,0.068259,0.053295,0.041854,0.020359,0.010575,0.011769,0.002454,-0.000729,-0.00406,0.008992,-0.009366,-0.005918,0.020222,-0.003713,-0.016559,0.004434,0.004525,0.002876,0.010981,0.015704,-0.002342,0.020485,-0.006466
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG004.A,0.133173,0.12491,0.067505,0.057494,0.042162,0.021753,0.007285,0.004615,-0.002454,-0.006743,-0.004547,0.00015,-0.013231,-0.012248,0.015065,0.010475,-0.002868,0.002027,-0.001131,-0.001376,0.000749,-0.000742,-0.00456,0.020967,0.000718
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG005.A,0.129758,0.13405,0.064111,0.054587,0.035699,0.011435,0.010105,0.007154,-0.005522,-0.005649,-0.013316,0.001499,-0.014271,-0.0139,0.016829,0.0118,-0.001825,0.009628,0.003268,0.002751,0.004617,-0.001855,-0.007395,0.019762,-0.005868
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG006.A_noUDG,0.125205,0.13405,0.050157,0.033915,0.041546,0.011435,-0.003995,0.005077,-0.000614,0.015126,-0.011854,-0.00045,-0.006392,-0.0139,0.015336,-0.005569,-0.00678,-0.005068,0.00176,0.006503,0.006613,0.003833,0.00456,0.012652,0.001557
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG007.A_noUDG,0.125205,0.133034,0.045632,0.026486,0.03416,0.014781,0.001645,0.005538,-0.003477,0.006925,-0.006496,0.008692,-0.02111,-0.012799,0.013436,0.015778,0.012126,0.002534,-0.000754,0.002251,0.004118,-0.006183,0.006286,0.008796,0.003233
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG008.A_noUDG,0.12862,0.136081,0.062979,0.052972,0.040623,0.017012,0.00235,0.003461,0.001023,-0.00492,-0.009906,-3.00E-04,-0.006095,-0.016239,0.018051,0.01127,-0.007562,0.00114,0.001131,0.007253,0.01123,0.004081,0.00037,0.008073,-0.00467
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG009.A_noUDG,0.134311,0.114755,0.062225,0.066861,0.045547,0.023706,0.013396,0.012923,0.009204,-0.008747,-0.00065,0.006744,0.004906,0.005505,0.015744,-0.007558,-0.010952,0.000633,0.010307,0.017008,0.009234,-0.005441,0.00493,0.011447,-0.011735
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG010.A_noUDG,0.135449,0.121864,0.065242,0.057171,0.0397,0.017291,0.002115,0.004846,0.003477,-0.00164,0.008769,0.005395,-0.00669,-0.006193,0.026601,0.023336,0.002868,0.015203,0.005154,0.010505,0.00287,0.008532,-0.006039,0.014219,-0.002874
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG011.A,0.120652,0.13405,0.059208,0.029716,0.036314,0.025658,0.006815,0.003231,-0.003068,0.002005,-0.009743,0.00045,-0.01442,-0.006055,0.02348,0.002254,-0.01369,0.00228,0.003645,0.001876,0.001622,0.010263,-0.001109,0.00494,0.007185
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG012.A,0.124067,0.136081,0.055437,0.031008,0.030775,0.013945,0.0047,0.005538,0.003886,0.012028,-0.011692,0.003597,-0.008622,-0.012111,0.015744,0.005436,-0.013169,-0.000253,0.003142,-0.006003,0.01148,0.004575,-0.008381,0.017713,0.003473
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG013.A,0.133173,0.13405,0.065996,0.057494,0.046162,0.022311,0.000235,0.003231,0.00634,-0.006743,-0.008769,-0.001798,-0.008325,-0.016377,0.017915,-0.011005,-0.024643,0.00114,0.010182,0.007003,0.004991,0.000618,-0.005793,0.004458,0.000359
Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG015.A,0.121791,0.140143,0.056945,0.030362,0.037238,0.016176,0.005405,0.006461,0.015544,0.020228,0,0.01124,-0.008622,-0.009083,0.02348,0.004243,-0.007562,-0.000507,-0.000503,0.006253,-0.006364,-0.005812,0,0.00494,-0.005628

Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval:GRO002.A_noUDG,0.132035,0.13405,0.067882,0.059109,0.044008,0.019522,0.010575,0.011769,0.001227,0.001276,0.000162,0.005245,-0.018137,-0.019267,0.027958,0.018828,0.004955,0.004687,0.005028,0.01063,0.007612,-0.00915,0.000616,0.025907,0.000599
Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval:GRO004.A_noUDG,0.126344,0.13405,0.063733,0.051034,0.042162,0.010877,-0.005405,0.007384,-0.00409,0.00492,-0.007632,0.019183,-0.013677,-0.01734,0.022665,0.003315,-0.002217,0.003801,0.012696,-0.002001,0.001373,0.00643,0.008627,0.022292,-0.001197
Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval:GRO008.A,0.127482,0.139128,0.07203,0.058463,0.041546,0.024821,-0.000235,0.001846,0.003477,-0.010205,0.004384,0.001948,-0.002379,-0.0139,0.020765,0.016441,0.009127,0.004434,0.006536,0.012256,0.005116,-0.003091,-0.002095,0.016026,-0.004071
Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval:GRO012.A,0.130897,0.139128,0.054682,0.040698,0.042469,0.018407,0.00376,0.008077,0.001023,0.003098,0.00065,0.008243,-0.011744,-0.003853,0.017372,0.006895,0,-0.000887,-0.000503,0.005628,0.011605,0.007666,0.000493,0.00735,0
Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval:GRO014.A_noUDG,0.130897,0.132019,0.063356,0.05491,0.038776,0.026774,0.00423,0.009923,-0.000818,-0.007289,-0.00341,-3.00E-04,-0.006541,-0.00234,0.027823,-0.007425,-0.024643,-0.000127,0.010433,-0.002376,0.004991,0.002968,0.008874,0.010122,-0.00467
Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval:GRO015.A_noUDG,0.132035,0.131003,0.062225,0.050711,0.036314,0.018407,0.005405,0.012923,0.007363,0.002005,-0.000487,-0.004496,-0.004014,-0.011698,0.017372,0.002254,-0.003912,0.005194,0.000628,-0.000375,0.005366,0.000124,-0.000493,0.005904,0.001078
Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval:GRO017.A_noUDG,0.12862,0.133034,0.064865,0.051357,0.045239,0.017291,0.0047,0.011999,0.006545,-0.00328,-0.009419,0.003447,-0.011001,-0.009909,0.021851,0.018828,0.004172,0.000507,0.004902,0.010005,0.004243,-0.007048,-0.002711,0.017713,0.002634
Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval:GRO019.A_noUDG,0.127482,0.138112,0.073916,0.067184,0.04924,0.013945,0.00047,0.006231,0.015953,-0.005467,0.001137,0.004796,-0.014717,-0.002064,0.019272,-0.007823,-0.026729,0.002027,0.002011,-0.001751,0.010357,0.004328,0.002465,0.027474,0.000718
Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval:GRO020.A,0.135449,0.141159,0.067505,0.055233,0.040315,0.007809,0.017626,0.000462,-0.001841,0.006378,-0.010555,0.009591,-0.019772,-0.007982,0.018187,0.008088,0.022556,-0.003167,-0.004022,0.011005,0.012228,0.002597,-0.00986,0.016749,-0.008981
Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval:GRO024.A,0.124067,0.146236,0.056191,0.031977,0.041854,0.01255,-0.001645,0.003923,0.000818,0.010387,-0.002598,0,-0.011447,-0.008808,0.010858,0.004375,-0.007171,-0.00076,0.004022,-0.005753,0.001497,0.00915,-0.000986,0.011568,-0.001916

Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL001.B_noUDG,0.134311,0.127957,0.061471,0.055556,0.040623,0.025937,0.003995,0.012923,0.003681,-0.001458,-0.004384,0.008992,-0.009812,-0.015551,0.026465,-0.00716,-0.020731,0.00076,-0.003771,-0.003627,0.001123,0.002349,0.000986,0.006025,0.008263
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL002.B_noUDG,0.122929,0.12491,0.04978,0.05491,0.028621,0.007809,-0.00517,0.00923,0.000818,-0.009841,0.002598,0.011839,-0.013379,-0.009083,0.015608,0.009546,-0.011083,0.004307,0.005279,0.000125,0.002995,0.008408,-0.006286,0.030727,-0.003473
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL004.B_noUDG,0.127482,0.128972,0.056568,0.05168,0.035699,0.015339,0.004465,0.009923,0.000818,0.002187,-0.006333,0.010041,-0.013379,-0.01679,0.029994,0.016043,-0.005998,-0.000253,0.002011,-0.001251,0.010107,-0.00507,0.000493,0.010845,0.004311
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL006.B_noUDG,0.129758,0.127957,0.065242,0.046835,0.044931,0.018128,0.006345,0.013846,0.009204,0.005832,-0.00406,0.009292,-0.015609,-0.018992,0.02158,0.007955,-0.008736,-0.002787,0.008799,0.005253,0,0.002968,0.005423,0.011688,-0.000359
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL008.B_noUDG,0.125205,0.138112,0.060339,0.047804,0.040007,0.023706,-0.008695,0.004846,-0.008385,-0.014579,-0.01023,0.007044,-0.017988,-0.016377,0.025787,0.007823,0.001173,0.003801,-0.002011,0.00075,0.00025,0.004204,-0.002711,0.023377,-0.00467
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL009.B_noUDG,0.120652,0.128972,0.064488,0.048127,0.036007,0.018407,-0.00282,-0.000462,0.011044,0.007472,-0.006171,-0.001049,-0.019029,-0.017203,0.019001,0.011535,-0.008214,0.003801,0.004525,-0.00075,0.001747,0.003339,0.008627,0.008073,-0.000479
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL012.A_noUDG,0.124067,0.132019,0.060339,0.04199,0.031698,0.016176,-0.00188,0.012923,0.007567,-0.00328,0.001461,0.007943,-0.015015,-0.012799,0.028637,-0.006232,-0.029336,-0.005068,0.001006,5.00E-04,0.007986,-0.001237,0.004683,0.004579,-0.002634
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL013.B_noUDG,0.126344,0.123895,0.065996,0.047481,0.041854,0.017849,-0.00282,0.000923,0.002863,0.001093,-0.006333,-0.00015,-0.012636,-0.010184,0.02728,0.003315,-0.014864,0.000633,-0.000628,0.001501,0.004991,0.006801,0.004807,0.016147,-0.004311
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL014.B_noUDG,0.118376,0.127957,0.058454,0.052326,0.039084,0.018686,-0.00611,0.008307,-0.002454,0.000547,-0.013803,0.002847,-0.010704,-0.021607,0.031487,0.005967,-0.007171,0.00038,0.003017,0.007754,0.009109,0.008161,0.007765,0.01458,0.00012
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL015.B_noUDG,0.1161,0.132019,0.05506,0.060401,0.023697,0.014223,-0.002585,-0.005077,0.004295,0.01057,-0.010718,0.002248,-0.026462,-0.020919,0.017101,0.01485,-0.010952,0.011402,0.005782,-0.005002,0.010232,0.012242,-0.001232,0.011929,0.000599
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL016.B_noUDG,0.126344,0.132019,0.071653,0.057494,0.032314,0.016733,0.000235,0.003923,0.002659,-0.00164,-0.009581,-0.000899,-0.00773,-0.01101,0.027144,-0.007292,-0.029597,0.00228,0.010684,-0.000125,-0.000624,0.002968,-0.003081,0.007953,-0.000599
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL021.A_noUDG,0.134311,0.125926,0.058077,0.055556,0.042777,0.018965,0.004465,-0.000231,0.015339,0.012028,0.00341,0.027426,-0.02215,-0.018992,0.027008,0.005834,0.009518,-0.00038,0,-0.002501,0.007736,0.005441,0.006286,0.020485,0.004311
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL022.B_noUDG,0.122929,0.129988,0.053174,0.056202,0.03416,0.018128,-0.003525,-0.003231,-0.000409,-0.00492,0.000487,0.003447,-0.012339,-0.020781,0.025651,0.003978,-0.009909,0.002534,-0.000754,-5.00E-04,0.001373,0.005193,0.002342,0.012291,0.001916
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL023.B_noUDG,0.133173,0.139128,0.057699,0.050711,0.035699,0.013387,0.001645,0.006231,0.007976,0,-0.002761,0.006444,-0.014123,-0.013074,0.028773,-0.003713,-0.022165,0.003547,0.001383,-0.007253,0.000374,0.003091,-0.000863,0.014098,0.003832
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL025.B_noUDG,0.126344,0.127957,0.057699,0.049742,0.041546,0.020638,0.000235,0.007615,0.010635,0.006925,-0.008119,0.008992,-0.017691,-0.013074,0.024701,0.004243,-0.009257,-0.004814,0.002765,0.002251,0.003993,0.007666,0.003451,0.016388,0.003712
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL026.B_noUDG,0.133173,0.135065,0.056568,0.05491,0.035699,0.016455,0.002585,0.003461,0.003272,-0.000729,-0.016239,0.007643,-0.017096,-0.015964,0.025515,0.016309,0.008866,0.004054,-0.007793,0.009755,0.008859,0.002597,0.006162,0.012532,0.00467
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL027.B_noUDG,0.127482,0.133034,0.060339,0.041344,0.038161,0.017291,0.00376,0.001615,0.003477,0.003645,-0.005684,0.007793,-0.019029,-0.012524,0.023208,0.014585,0.00665,0.000887,-0.006159,0.019759,0.011854,0.003215,-0.003944,0.005784,-0.005389
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL028.B_noUDG,0.130897,0.127957,0.056568,0.052649,0.03693,0.013945,0.003995,0.008077,0.001432,0.000364,-0.00747,0.003747,-0.02215,-0.018992,0.027958,0.02148,0.000522,-0.00038,0.004148,0.008629,0.003119,0.001237,0.002342,0.016026,0.002754
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL032.B_noUDG,0.127482,0.133034,0.060339,0.04845,0.038776,0.024821,0.004465,0.007154,-0.000409,0.001458,-0.006008,0.005845,-0.019475,-0.020643,0.025244,0.025059,-0.001043,-0.002027,-0.000754,0.017508,0.005989,0.001484,0.001849,0.01699,-0.003353
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL033.B_noUDG,0.126344,0.137096,0.057322,0.053941,0.026466,0.021753,0.00282,0.003923,0.000818,0.000547,-0.001949,0.008842,-0.013677,-0.014313,0.029587,0.010342,-0.011083,0,0.00264,0.006253,0.004492,0.011376,0.006409,0.004097,0.00012
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL034.A_noUDG,0.117238,0.12491,0.065619,0.066215,0.038776,0.025379,0.00188,0.004615,-0.004295,-0.007472,-0.006496,0.007194,-0.01442,-0.024222,0.028501,0.005569,-0.002347,0.005448,-0.001383,0.009505,0.005865,0.007419,0.003821,0.016388,-0.010897
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL035.B_noUDG,0.122929,0.126941,0.061471,0.049419,0.040315,0.016733,0.00564,-0.001154,0.001432,-0.002005,-0.011367,0.008692,-0.021407,-0.028488,0.025108,0.017237,-0.002217,0.007981,0.001634,0.007003,0.008111,0.010634,-0.00037,0.011327,-0.00467
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL037.A_noUDG,0.127482,0.133034,0.060339,0.046512,0.031698,0.019243,-0.000235,0.001846,-0.00225,-0.001093,-0.006171,-0.001199,-0.009217,-0.013762,0.016694,0.010475,-0.01004,-0.001014,0.000251,0.007128,0.004367,0.00272,0.003821,0.010604,-0.000359
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL041.B_noUDG,0.120652,0.123895,0.050534,0.048773,0.034776,0.008646,0.002585,0.005538,0.004704,-0.003645,-0.002436,0.003897,-0.010258,-0.012937,0.019951,0.011005,0.002999,-0.00152,0.002137,0.004627,0.001622,-0.007048,-0.001479,-0.001807,-0.00012
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL042.A_noUDG,0.129758,0.145221,0.048649,0.030685,0.032621,0.015897,0.003995,0.007384,0.010431,0.009841,-0.006983,0.009741,-0.005798,0.000138,0.025787,-0.00305,-0.01695,0.001394,0.005405,0.001,0.004991,-0.004204,-0.001109,0.003012,-0.005029
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL043.B_noUDG,0.133173,0.131003,0.073539,0.053941,0.044316,0.023148,-0.004465,-0.003461,0.018816,0.005103,-0.0177,0.008393,-0.015758,-0.025735,0.023344,0.028905,0.008214,-0.000507,0.003645,0.007003,0.005615,0.009769,-0.000246,0.006868,-0.007424
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL044.B_noUDG,0.132035,0.139128,0.062979,0.050065,0.035699,0.013387,0.00376,0.011076,0.011249,0.008383,-0.007957,0.009442,-0.015312,-0.0139,0.030401,-0.009414,-0.024251,0.007475,0.011061,0.004002,0.006738,0.006059,0.000616,0.013375,-0.004311
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL047.B_noUDG,0.130897,0.138112,0.068636,0.053295,0.044008,0.017291,0.00611,0.005769,0.005113,0.003645,-0.006008,0.016335,-0.024529,-0.026974,0.024158,0.013126,-0.001956,-0.001774,0.000754,0.004627,0.004991,-0.002226,-0.003574,0.016267,-0.002994

 

[qh777]

As well as

I'm pretty sure these and a few Saxon samples from England are not present on the list from Ivorix's list

 

[Ivorix]

As well as


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I'm pretty sure these and a few Saxon samples from England are not present on the list from Ivorix's list

No they are not that list is from some months ago

 

[qh777]

When I add the above samples this is my result:

2-way:

Target: qh777_MH_scaled (10 iterations, 877,150 models generated in 0.17 s)
1 0.015 55% Insular*Celt*(AD*100–1000):Roman*Britain:England_Roman:S14491__AD_226__Coverage_73.29% + 45% Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG012.A
2 0.015 55% Roman*Britain*(AD*100–400):Roman*Britain:England_Roman:S14491__AD_226__Coverage_73.29% + 45% Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG012.A
3 0.017 64% Insular*Celt*(AD*100–1000):Roman*Britain:England_EastYorkshire_LIA:I22062__AD_20__Coverage_68.41% + 36% Germany_AltInden_Saxon_EMedieval:IND014.A_noUDG
4 0.017 64% Roman*Britain*(AD*100–400):Roman*Britain:England_EastYorkshire_LIA:I22062__AD_20__Coverage_68.41% + 36% Germany_AltInden_Saxon_EMedieval:IND014.A_noUDG
5 0.018 65% Insular*Celt*(600*BC–AD*100):Insular*Celt*(Brigantes) + 35% Germany_AltInden_Saxon_EMedieval:IND014.A_noUDG
6 0.018 60% Insular*Celt*(600*BC–AD*100):Insular*Celt*(Parisi) + 40% Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG006.A_noUDG
7 0.018 56% Insular*Celt*(600*BC–AD*100):Insular*Celt*(Cantiaci) + 44% Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG006.A_noUDG
8 0.018 57% Germany_AltInden_Saxon_EMedieval:IND007.A_noUDG + 43% Insular*Celt*(AD*100–1000)ict:Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK207__AD_1020__Coverage_38.54%
9 0.018 63% Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval:GRO004.A_noUDG + 37% Germany_AltInden_Saxon_EMedieval:IND004.A_noUDG
10 0.018 57% Insular*Celt*(600*BC–AD*100):Insular*Celt*(Dobunni) + 43% Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG006.A_noUDG

Target: qh777_ancestrydna_scaled (10 iterations, 877,150 models generated in 0.35 s)
1 0.015 52% Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG012.A + 48% Insular*Celt*(AD*100–1000):Roman*Britain:England_Roman:S14491__AD_226__Coverage_73.29%
2 0.016 58% Germany_AltInden_Saxon_EMedieval:IND007.A_noUDG + 42% Insular*Celt*(AD*100–1000)ict:Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK201__AD_490__Coverage_59.10%
3 0.017 85% Roman*Britain*(AD*100–400):Roman*Britain:England_EastYorkshire_LIA:I22062__AD_20__Coverage_68.41% + 15% Italian*(AD*650–1450):Central*Italian*(Papal*States):ITA_Tarquinia_EMA:TAQ003
4 0.017 68% Insular*Celt*(600*BC–AD*100):Insular*Celt*(Brigantes) + 32% Germany_AltInden_Saxon_EMedieval:IND014.A_noUDG
5 0.018 67% Insular*Celt*(AD*100–1000):Roman*Britain:England_EastYorkshire_LIA:I22062__AD_20__Coverage_68.41% + 33% Germany_AltInden_Saxon_EMedieval:IND014.A_noUDG
6 0.018 92% Insular*Celt*(600*BC–AD*100):Insular*Celt*(Parisi) + 8% Italian*(AD*650–1450):South*Italian*(Kingdom*of*Sicily):ITA_Ordona_MA:ORD010
7 0.018 70% Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG001.A + 30% France*(AD*130–1400):France*(AD*130–1400):FRA_Metz_Sablon:R2058__AD_470__Coverage_44.61%
8 0.019 62% Insular*Celt*(600*BC–AD*100):Insular*Celt*(Dobunni) + 38% Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG006.A_noUDG
9 0.019 58% Insular*Celt*(600*BC–AD*100):Insular*Celt*(Cantiaci) + 42% Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG006.A_noUDG
10 0.019 53% Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG008.A_noUDG + 47% France*(AD*130–1400):France*(AD*130–1400):ITA_Palazzo_della_Cancelleria:R1223__AD_1485__Coverage_48.30%



The Scorton Anglian, Schleswig Saxon, and Groningen Saxon individuals I'm assigned have decent Celtic admix.
I modified a British Isles calculator a bit for this breakdown:

 

[Kari]

No they are not that list is from some months ago

Ivorix,you could update your Greek samples.There is the new skourtanioti paper,which includes many Bronze age samples from Greece,and a sample from Iron age peloponnese too!

 

[Ivorix]

Ivorix,you could update your Greek samples.There is the new skourtanioti paper,which includes many Bronze age samples from Greece,and a sample from Iron age peloponnese too!

I might take a look to the new samples these days and request in facebook to update the model in exploreyourdna.com