G25 G25 Sea Peoples Calculator by Me

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Fun little list that I made this afternoon. The Sea Peoples of the late bronze age are speculated to come from Italy, Sicily, Sardinia, Aegean, and Anatolia. It's less likely but it has been speculated that some of the Sea Peoples may have even come from as far away as Iberia.
I've made a few different versions. I'm open to suggestions on how to improve it.

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Added Iberian for me

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0107% / 0.01074635
40.4 Iberian
28.9 NorthWestEurope
28.6 SeaPeoples
2.1 NorthEastEurope
 
Code: 
Iberians:Spain_Formentera_MBA:I4420,0.122929,0.153345,0.033941,0.002584,0.069859,-0.011992,0.01034,0.010615,0.032724,0.055764,-0.006333,0.015137,-0.028246,-0.019267,0.000679,0.000133,0.011865,-0.003421,-0.010307,0.004002,0.005989,-0.006677,0.001479,-0.013978,0.01904
Iberians:Spain_LBA:I20740,0.120652,0.150298,0.057699,0.007106,0.057549,-0.005299,-0.004935,0.007846,0.03886,0.045012,0.000974,0.003597,-0.036719,-0.026836,-0.001764,-0.011535,-0.014864,-0.006334,-0.007165,-0.010505,0.020589,0.002102,-0.013434,-0.016267,0.010658
Iberians:Spain_LBA:I2469_enhanced,0.119514,0.149283,0.052797,-0.003553,0.064627,0.004462,-0.002585,0.007615,0.026588,0.042643,-0.011205,-0.001499,-0.023786,-0.01445,0.011401,0.022938,0.011083,0.002787,-0.004777,0.008629,0.007487,-0.009892,-0.01442,-0.019762,-0.008263
Iberians:Spain_LBA:I8570,0.132035,0.152329,0.052043,-0.001938,0.056318,-0.004183,-0.00376,-0.000692,0.047245,0.053213,-0.002761,0.005695,-0.018434,-0.00812,0.005565,-0.001193,-0.008866,-0.006714,-0.00088,0.008129,0.008735,-0.003091,-0.001972,-0.013375,-0.00012
Iberians:Spain_LBA:I8570,0.132035,0.152329,0.052043,-0.001938,0.056318,-0.004183,-0.00376,-0.000692,0.047245,0.053213,-0.002761,0.005695,-0.018434,-0.00812,0.005565,-0.001193,-0.008866,-0.006714,-0.00088,0.008129,0.008735,-0.003091,-0.001972,-0.013375,-0.00012
Iberians:Portugal_MBA.SG:MonteGato104_noUDG.SG,0.122929,0.145221,0.064111,-0.005491,0.067705,-0.008088,-0.00658,0.009461,0.043973,0.065241,-0.001299,0.014837,-0.026462,-0.022432,0.0057,0.010077,0.024251,-0.003801,-0.001131,-0.006503,0.00861,0.003833,-0.013804,-0.020123,0.001557
Iberians:Portugal_MBA.SG:TV32032extra_noUDG.SG,0.118376,0.161469,0.059208,-0.018734,0.068628,-0.008088,0.000235,0.003692,0.041109,0.059591,0.001949,0.012889,-0.029881,-0.010322,0.003393,-0.01485,-0.01708,0.003674,-0.009176,-0.003126,0.006863,-0.000742,-0.017501,-0.025907,-0.008861
Iberians:Portugal_MBA.SG:ValeOuro10207_noUDG.SG,0.117238,0.156392,0.05242,-0.001615,0.06432,0.000279,-0.014571,0.010846,0.043564,0.058498,0.007795,0.015286,-0.002676,0.003028,0.005972,0.005569,-0.000261,-0.00152,0.015964,-0.002001,-0.004866,0.004081,-0.004683,-0.021208,-0.001197

Added Iberians to the calculator.

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2-way #1 is 27% Shekelesh :p

The Egyptians had names for the individual groups of sea peoples. They were: Sherden/Shardana, Shekelesh, Teresh, Tjekker, Denyen, Ekwesh, Peleset, Weshesh, and Lukka.

The Shardana/Sherden are speculated to be from Sardinia.
The Shekelesh from Sicily.
The Teresh were thought to be early Etruscans because the name Teresh resembles Tyrrhenian, a name given to Etruscans by the Greeks.
The Tjekker from Anatolia maybe Troy
Denyen and Ekwesh mainland Greeks
Peleset are the Philistines which genetically resemble populations from the Aegean (although one sample I added according to Illustrative had a genetic resemblance to Anatolians)
Lukka from Anatolia specifically from Lycia.
 

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Target: Robotnick_scaled
Distance: 2.5998% / 0.02599848
47.0 NorthWestEurope
23.8 Iberians
16.8 SeaPeoples
12.4 NorthEastEurope


I wonder about a Paleo-Balkan origin for some of these Sea peoples. Illyrians plot not too far from Iberians and Ancient Latins/Etruscans. Dalmation Coast isn't an implausible spot for some of these to have originated.
 
Robotnick said:
Target: Robotnick_scaled
Distance: 2.5998% / 0.02599848
47.0 NorthWestEurope
23.8 Iberians
16.8 SeaPeoples
12.4 NorthEastEurope


I wonder about a Paleo-Balkan origin for some of these Sea peoples. Illyrians plot not too far from Iberians and Ancient Latins/Etruscans. Dalmation Coast isn't an implausible spot for some of these to have originated.
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Maybe. It's all speculation/educated guesses. Some believe the sea peoples strictly came from the Aegean and Anatolia and later migrated to Italy, Sicily, and Sardinia.
 
Target: MandM
Distance: 1.6947% / 0.01694689
69.2 SeaPeoples
26.2NorthEastEurope
4.6NorthWestEurope
 
If we could compare sea people samples to Myceneans, Ancient Greeks, and modern Greeks I think it might increase the resolution of what they were genetically (I think some were from different places) Southern Italians would be good too.

I heard that one Philistine sample plotted close to Sardinians. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong though.
 
Robotnick said:
If we could compare sea people samples to Myceneans, Ancient Greeks, and modern Greeks I think it might increase the resolution of what they were genetically (I think some were from different places) Southern Italians would be good too.

I heard that one Philistine sample plotted close to Sardinians. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong though.
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Code: 
SeaPeoples:Israel_Ashkelon_IA1_o:ASH068,0.10927,0.158423,-0.00264,-0.0646,0.024928,-0.026774,0.00611,-0.006461,0.003477,0.053942,-0.007307,0.016785,-0.025124,0.001789,-0.022665,0.010872,0.034421,0.004307,0.007165,-0.011881,-0.008235,0.016693,0.013434,-0.006145,0.006347
SeaPeoples:Israel_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH067,0.117238,0.1635,-0.046386,-0.077197,0.000308,-0.030957,0.009635,0.001846,-0.007567,0.040092,0.00747,0.006145,-0.015609,0.002615,-0.029858,0.002784,-0.01017,0.009755,0.006536,-0.009129,-0.008859,-0.000742,-0.012202,0.007591,-0.000718

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Sea people's were potentially Urnfielders, they emerged at the time when Urnfield was taking over much of Europe and carried similar symbolisms -

en.m.wikipedia.org

Urnfield culture - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org

They may have travelled on these ships from Slovenia and north east Italy towards south Europe and Egypt
 
Distance to: Veritus_scaled
0.05224772 SeaPeoples:Italy_Broion_BA.SG:BRC003.SG
0.05621690 SeaPeoples:Italy_PianSultano_BA.SG:R11104.SG
0.06608232 NorthWestEurope:England_LBA:I12624
0.07330980 Iberians:Spain_LBA:I8570
0.07330980 Iberians:Spain_LBA:I8570
0.07913187 Iberians:Spain_LBA:I20740
0.07978350 Iberians:portugal_MBA.SG:ValeOuro10207_noUDG.SG
0.08180524 Iberians:Spain_LBA:I2469_enhanced
0.08371644 Iberians:Spain_Formentera_MBA:I4420
0.08602837 SeaPeoples:Italy_Sicily_LBA:I3876
0.08762791 NorthWestEurope:France_GrandEst_EBA.SG:BIS130.SG
0.08863510 Iberians:portugal_MBA.SG:TV32032extra_noUDG.SG
0.08893062 NorthWestEurope:Germany_LBA_Halberstadt:I0099
0.09310212 NorthWestEurope:DNK_BA
0.09598959 SeaPeoples:Italy_Sicily_LBA:I3878
0.09946283 NorthWestEurope:Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.10027330 Iberians:portugal_MBA.SG:MonteGato104_noUDG.SG
0.10871348 SeaPeoples:Israel_Ashkelon_IA1_o:ASH068
0.10871348 SeaPeoples:Israel_Ashkelon_IA1_o:ASH068
0.10886561 Hittites:Turkey_OldHittitePeriod.SG:MA2203_noUDG.SG
0.11271300 NorthWestEurope:Netherlands_LBA:I20062
0.11735564 SeaPeoples:Greece_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA.SG:Kou03.SG
0.11736962 NorthWestEurope:Germany_Tollense_BA.SG:WEZ15_noUDG.SG
 
Target: Veritus_scaled
Distance: 0.0138% / 0.01380296
58.1 SeaPeoples
17.2 NorthEastEurope
13.5 NorthWestEurope
5.9 Iberians
4.8 Canaanites
0.4 SSA
0.1 EastAsia_China
qh777 said:
Code: 
SeaPeoples:Israel_Ashkelon_IA1_o:ASH068,0.10927,0.158423,-0.00264,-0.0646,0.024928,-0.026774,0.00611,-0.006461,0.003477,0.053942,-0.007307,0.016785,-0.025124,0.001789,-0.022665,0.010872,0.034421,0.004307,0.007165,-0.011881,-0.008235,0.016693,0.013434,-0.006145,0.006347
SeaPeoples:Israel_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH067,0.117238,0.1635,-0.046386,-0.077197,0.000308,-0.030957,0.009635,0.001846,-0.007567,0.040092,0.00747,0.006145,-0.015609,0.002615,-0.029858,0.002784,-0.01017,0.009755,0.006536,-0.009129,-0.008859,-0.000742,-0.012202,0.007591,-0.000718

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There was a doco on Ashkelon by israeli scholars and they had data that the philistines came from Eastern Crete after the mycenean conquest of Crete
 
torzio said:
Target: Veritus_scaled
Distance: 0.0138% / 0.01380296
58.1 SeaPeoples
17.2 NorthEastEurope
13.5 NorthWestEurope
5.9 Iberians
4.8 Canaanites
0.4 SSA
0.1 EastAsia_China

There was a doco on Ashkelon by israeli scholars and they had data that the philistines came from Eastern Crete after the mycenean conquest of Crete
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You know I think I saw something similar to that. I found it. Information starts at 2:25

 
Preparing stuff to plunder Egypt

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Distance to:Dorquest_scaled
0.04937588NorthWestEurope:England_LBA:I12624
0.05248866NorthWestEurope:Germany_LBA_Halberstadt:I0099
0.05640989NorthWestEurope:Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.05810424NorthWestEurope:Netherlands_LBA:I20062
0.05915433NorthWestEurope:DNK_BA
0.06695826NorthWestEurope:France_GrandEst_EBA.SG:BIS130.SG
0.07752840SeaPeoples:Greece_Logkas_MBA.SG:Log04.SG
0.08622053NorthWestEurope:Germany_Tollense_BA.SG:WEZ15_noUDG.SG
0.08663538SeaPeoples:Italy_Broion_BA.SG:BRC003.SG
0.08885181SeaPeoples:Italy_PianSultano_BA.SG:R11104.SG
0.09730494SeaPeoples:Greece_Logkas_MBA.SG:Log02.SG
0.10456862NorthEastEurope:Lithuania_BA:Turlojiske3
0.11564658NorthEastEurope:Lithuania_BA:Turlojiske1
0.14411109SeaPeoples:Italy_Sicily_LBA:I3876
0.14925079SeaPeoples:Italy_Sicily_LBA:I3878
0.15024529NorthEastEurope:Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns209
0.15153576NorthEastEurope:Estonia_BA.SG:s19_0LS11_1_noUDG.SG
0.15303160NorthEastEurope:Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns207
0.15495624NorthWestEurope:France_GrandEst_EBA:I16247
0.15679728NorthEastEurope:Estonia_BA.SG:s19_V16_1_noUDG.SG
0.16418271SeaPeoples:Israel_Ashkelon_IA1_o:ASH068
0.16741581Hittites:Turkey_OldHittitePeriod.SG:MA2203_noUDG.SG
0.17534061SeaPeoples:Greece_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA.SG:Kou03.SG
0.17772456SeaPeoples:Italy_Sardinia_LBA:I10553
0.18058412SeaPeoples:Greece_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA.SG:Kou01.SG
0.18303224Hittites:Turkey_OldHittitePeriod.SG:MA2200_noUDG.SG
0.18337622SeaPeoples:Italy_Sardinia_LBA:I10552
0.18568899SeaPeoples:Israel_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH067
0.20222709Egyptians:Egyptian_Middle_Kingdom-Djehuty_Nakht_2100B.C:I6130
0.20676450Canaanites:Jordan_LBA:I3706
0.20860133Canaanites:Israel_MLBA:I10099
0.20984995Canaanites:Lebanon_MBA.SG:ERS1790730_noUDG.SG
0.21282977Egyptians:Egyptian_Dynasties_Period:I4270
0.21562565Canaanites:Jordan_LBA_IA:I3703
0.21699490Canaanites:Lebanon_MBA.SG:ERS1790729_noUDG.SG
0.22123170Canaanites:Jordan_LBA:I3705
0.22731276Canaanites:Israel_MLBA:I10104
0.22970989Egyptians:Egyptian_Late_Kingdom_Period:EGY_Late_Period:JK2134
0.23038060Egyptians:Egyptian_Late_Kingdom_Period:EGY_Late_Period:JK2911
0.24145995Egyptians:Egyptian_Middle_Kingdom_Period:Egyptian_1879bc:Nakht-Ankh
0.24885331Egyptians:Egyptian_Old_Middle_Kingdom_Period_Dahshur:I10020
0.61543663EastAsia_China:China_YR_LBIA:HJTM115_noUDG
0.61846528EastAsia_China:China_YR_LBIA:JXNTM23_noUDG
0.62014396EastAsia_China:China_YR_LBIA:LGM41_noUDG
0.62294569EastAsia_China:China_YR_LBIA:JXNTM2_noUDG
0.65567261Amerindian:USA_Nevada_LovelockCave_1850BP.SG:Lovelock4_noUDG.SG
0.66058430Amerindian:USA_Nevada_LovelockCave_1850BP.SG:Lovelock1_noUDG.SG
0.66670283Amerindian:USA_Nevada_LovelockCave_1850BP.SG:Lovelock2_noUDG.SG
0.68211349SSA:Ethiopia_4500BP:I5950
0.75774095SSA:Cameroon_SMA:I10872
0.76621977SSA:Cameroon_SMA:I10871
0.77386956SSA:Cameroon_SMA:I10873




Target: Dorquest_scaled
Distance: 2.5947% / 0.02594724
60.8NorthWestEurope:Netherlands_LBA:I20062
15.2SeaPeoples:Greece_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA.SG:Kou01.SG
10.6SeaPeoples:Italy_PianSultano_BA.SG:R11104.SG
10.0NorthEastEurope:Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns207
3.4SeaPeoples:Italy_Sardinia_LBA:I10553
 
aggregate turned off results from OP list (G25 Sea Peoples Calculator V1.3):

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