G25 G25 Vahaduo Modeling My Ancient Ancestry IA&BA

qh777 · Dec 25, 2023

I made a list that even I think southern Europeans get a good fit with. Of course, members on here with similar Ancestry as I will get good fits too.
It's a short and simple list containing individuals from the Iron Age and Bronze age. When I use the list I used the top list, or the reduced list from the top, then pick one Mediterranean/Near East Individual and see what the closeness is and % breakdown.

Insular Gael · Dec 26, 2023

Distance to:	InsularGael_scaled
0.02678472	Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.03112950	England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.03217283	France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03386688	Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG
0.03553721	Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG
0.03640095	Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.03706980	Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.03947698	Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.03956349	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.04073058	Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.04383199	Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906
0.04509312	Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.05367805	Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG
0.07370722	Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R435.SG
0.07377999	Italy_Tuscany_Grosseto_Etruscan:CSN008
0.07707088	Spain_IA:I12879
0.08673734	Spain_EBA_Mallorca:I4329
0.09836825	Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_Etruscan:TAQ004
0.10588979	Spain_EIA_Tartessian:I12171
0.11024432	Portugal_MBA.SG:ValeOuro10207_noUDG.SG
0.13806908	Greece_BA_Mycenaean:I19368
0.16223734	Greece_Delphi_IA:I17962
0.19842885	Greece_Minoan_Lassithi:I0071
0.20420935	Lebanon_EjJaouze_Phoenician.SG:R12229.SG
0.21349210	Egyptian_Middle_Kingdom-Djehuty_Nakht_2100B.C:I6130

Target: InsularGael_scaled Distance: 0.0171% / 0.01707981
19.8	Sweden_IA.SG

18.8	Sweden_IA_2.SG

18.5	Scotland_LBA

11.8	France_GrandEst_IA2

11.2	Netherlands_LIA

6.7	England_MIA_LIA

4.8	Greece_BA_Mycenaean

3.7	Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG

2.8	Denmark_IA.SG

1.2	Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG

0.7	Italy_IA_Republic.SG

Distance to:	InsularGael_scaled
0.02085488	36.00% Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG + 64.00% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02111621	56.40% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 43.60% Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.02256053	43.80% Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG + 56.20% England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.02264596	34.40% Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG + 65.60% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02305638	60.00% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817 + 40.00% Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.02316666	62.60% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 37.40% Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG
0.02337402	59.00% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817 + 41.00% Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.02357019	61.00% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 39.00% Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.02358309	41.60% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 58.40% England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.02399917	43.20% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 56.80% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.02409492	71.20% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 28.80% Italy_Tuscany_Grosseto_Etruscan:CSN008
0.02410776	35.40% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817 + 64.60% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02420354	61.40% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 38.60% Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.02424423	26.60% Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG + 73.40% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02447615	81.40% Scotland_LBA:I2859 + 18.60% Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG
0.02454733	63.00% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 37.00% Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.02466018	59.60% Netherlands_LIA:I17750 + 40.40% Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG
0.02479818	35.00% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 65.00% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02516523	79.60% Scotland_LBA:I2859 + 20.40% Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906
0.02521785	28.60% Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG + 71.40% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02533039	79.20% Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG + 20.80% Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_Etruscan:TAQ004
0.02536496	86.60% Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG + 13.40% Greece_Delphi_IA:I17962
0.02540112	73.00% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 27.00% Spain_IA:I12879
0.02553559	23.20% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 76.80% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02561277	61.00% Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG + 39.00% Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG

Ivorix · Dec 26, 2023

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0320% / 0.03203974
33.6 Spain_EBA_Mallorca
20.7 England_MIA_LIA
13.5 Netherlands_MIA_LIA
11.9 Spain_EIA_Tartessian
11.1 Netherlands_LIA
9.2 Portugal_MBA.SG

qh777 · Dec 26, 2023

Another Etruscan sample:

qh777 · Dec 26, 2023

Insular Gael said:
Distance to: InsularGael_scaled
0.02678472 Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.03112950 England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.03217283 France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03386688 Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG
0.03553721 Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG
0.03640095 Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.03706980 Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.03947698 Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.03956349 Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.04073058 Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.04383199 Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906
0.04509312 Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.05367805 Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG
0.07370722 Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R435.SG
0.07377999 Italy_Tuscany_Grosseto_Etruscan:CSN008
0.07707088 Spain_IA:I12879
0.08673734 Spain_EBA_Mallorca:I4329
0.09836825 Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_Etruscan:TAQ004
0.10588979 Spain_EIA_Tartessian:I12171
0.11024432 Portugal_MBA.SG:ValeOuro10207_noUDG.SG
0.13806908 Greece_BA_Mycenaean:I19368
0.16223734 Greece_Delphi_IA:I17962
0.19842885 Greece_Minoan_Lassithi:I0071
0.20420935 Lebanon_EjJaouze_Phoenician.SG:R12229.SG
0.21349210 Egyptian_Middle_Kingdom-Djehuty_Nakht_2100B.C:I6130

Target: InsularGael_scaled
Distance: 0.0171% / 0.01707981
19.8 Sweden_IA.SG
18.8 Sweden_IA_2.SG
18.5 Scotland_LBA
11.8 France_GrandEst_IA2
11.2 Netherlands_LIA
6.7 England_MIA_LIA
4.8 Greece_BA_Mycenaean
3.7 Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG
2.8 Denmark_IA.SG
1.2 Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG
0.7 Italy_IA_Republic.SG

Distance to: InsularGael_scaled
0.02085488 36.00% Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG + 64.00% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02111621 56.40% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 43.60% Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.02256053 43.80% Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG + 56.20% England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.02264596 34.40% Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG + 65.60% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02305638 60.00% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817 + 40.00% Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.02316666 62.60% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 37.40% Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG
0.02337402 59.00% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817 + 41.00% Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.02357019 61.00% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 39.00% Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.02358309 41.60% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 58.40% England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.02399917 43.20% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 56.80% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.02409492 71.20% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 28.80% Italy_Tuscany_Grosseto_Etruscan:CSN008
0.02410776 35.40% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817 + 64.60% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02420354 61.40% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 38.60% Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.02424423 26.60% Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG + 73.40% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02447615 81.40% Scotland_LBA:I2859 + 18.60% Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG
0.02454733 63.00% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 37.00% Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.02466018 59.60% Netherlands_LIA:I17750 + 40.40% Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG
0.02479818 35.00% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 65.00% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02516523 79.60% Scotland_LBA:I2859 + 20.40% Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906
0.02521785 28.60% Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG + 71.40% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02533039 79.20% Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG + 20.80% Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_Etruscan:TAQ004
0.02536496 86.60% Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG + 13.40% Greece_Delphi_IA:I17962
0.02540112 73.00% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 27.00% Spain_IA:I12879
0.02553559 23.20% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 76.80% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02561277 61.00% Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG + 39.00% Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG

What do you get when you pick one Mediterranean sample and reduce to 5 populations?

Flann Fina · Dec 26, 2023

Target: Flann_Fina Distance: 2.1174% / 0.02117425 \| ADC: 0.5x
58.0	England_MIA_LIA

22.4	Scotland_LBA

7.6	Netherlands_MIA_LIA

5.0	Sweden_IA_2.SG

4.4	Sweden_IA.SG

2.6	Netherlands_LIA

qh777 · Dec 26, 2023

Flann Fina said:
Target: Flann_Fina
Distance: 2.1174% / 0.02117425 | ADC: 0.5x
58.0 England_MIA_LIA
22.4 Scotland_LBA
7.6 Netherlands_MIA_LIA
5.0 Sweden_IA_2.SG
4.4 Sweden_IA.SG
2.6 Netherlands_LIA

I follow Illustrativedna's range. Anything under 0.03 is considered a good fit. 0.03-0.04 (I think) is called moderate "ok" fit.

For example:

qh777 · Dec 27, 2023

PCA plot with all samples:

Not a complete expert on running the Vahaduo PCA tool. Can't quite figure out how to highlight just my plot points.

Insular Gael · Dec 27, 2023

qh777 said:
What do you get when you pick one Mediterranean sample and reduce to 5 populations?

Distance to:	InsularGael_scaled
0.02678472	Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.03112950	England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.03217283	France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03706980	Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.03947698	Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.03956349	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.04073058	Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.04509312	Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.07370722	Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R435.SG

Target: InsularGael_scaled Distance: 0.0196% / 0.01956370 \| R5P
33.7	France_GrandEst_IA2

24.5	Sweden_IA_2.SG

20.2	Netherlands_LIA

14.1	Scotland_LBA

7.5	Italy_IA_Republic.SG

Distance to:	InsularGael_scaled
0.02305638	60.00% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817 + 40.00% Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.02337402	59.00% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817 + 41.00% Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.02357019	61.00% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 39.00% Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.02358309	41.60% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 58.40% England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.02399917	43.20% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 56.80% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.02410776	35.40% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817 + 64.60% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02420354	61.40% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 38.60% Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.02424423	26.60% Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG + 73.40% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02454733	63.00% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 37.00% Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.02479818	35.00% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 65.00% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02553559	23.20% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 76.80% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02567248	80.60% Scotland_LBA:I2859 + 19.40% Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.02573532	80.20% Scotland_LBA:I2859 + 19.80% Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.02625813	27.60% Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R435.SG + 72.40% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.02638420	6.20% Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R435.SG + 93.80% Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.02773412	29.20% Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R435.SG + 70.80% Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.02779734	68.60% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817 + 31.40% Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.02781508	63.40% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817 + 36.60% Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.02808598	53.80% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 46.20% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.02871205	28.60% Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R435.SG + 71.40% Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.02937481	76.80% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 23.20% Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.03159857	27.80% Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R435.SG + 72.20% Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.03214352	2.00% Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R435.SG + 98.00% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03232002	52.00% Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG + 48.00% Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.03354253	59.40% Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG + 40.60% Netherlands_LIA:I17750

qh777 · Dec 27, 2023

This is what I get when I use that Italy Republic sample:

qh777 · Dec 28, 2023

Code:

Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG,0.130897,0.131003,0.070899,0.063631,0.0437,0.023148,0.00235,0.014538,0.011044,-0.010752,-0.003897,0.006444,-0.002825,-0.00234,0.021037,0.00053,-0.023208,0.006334,0.006034,0.007253,0.011979,0.011129,-0.001479,0.008314,-0.002036
Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG,0.124067,0.131003,0.061471,0.069445,0.042162,0.019801,0.003055,0.011307,0.006136,-0.011116,-0.003735,0.009591,-0.005946,-0.006744,0.02253,0.013524,-0.003129,0.010642,0.004148,0.007754,0.005366,0.003215,0.003821,0.018316,0.005149
England_MIA_LIA:I21310,0.132035,0.138112,0.053174,0.041667,0.041238,0.013666,0.00423,0.005077,0.005318,0.014032,-0.007307,0.007793,-0.013231,-0.016515,0.02443,0.005967,-0.010952,0.003927,-0.000126,0.002126,0.003993,0.005688,-0.003944,0.006507,-0.006586
France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817,0.129758,0.137096,0.057322,0.044251,0.043085,0.01757,0.00423,-0.006461,0.005727,0.003827,-0.007957,0.01109,-0.014569,-0.013212,0.022258,-0.006629,-0.020992,0.005954,-0.00088,0.01113,0.010606,0.00507,0.003821,0.002892,0.001796
Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG,0.126344,0.132019,0.060716,0.060401,0.031698,0.014781,0.003995,0.01223,0.004909,-0.006378,0.000974,0.007943,-0.008325,-0.024359,0.027008,0.020021,0.00352,-0.000507,-0.005531,0.003502,0.015098,0.00915,0.004314,0.00735,0.004431
Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG,0.129758,0.133034,0.078064,0.06783,0.056934,0.023148,0.000705,0.011076,0.013499,-0.005467,-0.003573,0.00015,-0.005798,-0.008808,0.018865,0.011668,-0.007432,-0.00076,0.004777,0.008254,0.00262,0.005564,-0.002711,0.019159,-0.000359
Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG,0.12862,0.126941,0.06939,0.0646,0.035391,0.01757,0.012221,0.003692,0.00225,-0.009659,0.00065,0.002847,-0.008474,0.006606,0.016829,-0.009679,-0.01708,0.006081,0.008296,0.001751,0.001248,0.000247,0.000246,0.006025,-0.000958
Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG,0.135449,0.125926,0.061094,0.052326,0.034776,0.020638,-0.00658,-0.000231,0,-0.003098,-0.013641,0.004496,-0.01442,-0.011973,0.031351,0.007823,-0.014342,-0.000887,0.005154,0.011756,0.008984,0.004204,-0.000246,0.001084,-0.002994
Scotland_LBA:I2859,0.132035,0.138112,0.061471,0.052972,0.037545,0.012271,0.006345,0.007615,0.003272,0.00328,-0.00747,0.006894,-0.019177,-0.016102,0.024022,0.011138,-0.008866,0.002407,0.005405,0.009004,0.006988,0.009027,0.002588,0.010363,0.009819
Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906,0.119514,0.13405,0.054305,0.041667,0.039084,0.016176,0.01081,0.005769,0.007158,0.011116,0.001137,0.017534,-0.003419,-0.003853,0.007465,-0.005834,-0.022687,0.002407,0.002011,0.008504,0.012478,0.013973,-0.002342,-0.000241,0.005508
Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG,0.122929,0.126941,0.07731,0.067507,0.038161,0.028168,0.005875,0.002538,0.003272,-0.005832,-0.006496,0.003747,-0.012933,-0.009496,0.026873,0.007955,-0.009648,0.005448,0.005908,0.010755,0.014474,-0.001237,0.002958,0.00482,0.002994
Netherlands_LIA:I17750,0.134311,0.120848,0.072407,0.049096,0.03416,0.019522,0.009165,0.005769,-0.004704,-0.008565,-0.009743,0.006594,-0.013231,-0.005918,0.019272,0.019491,0.009388,0.00228,0.008547,0.007629,0.004866,0.006925,0.011832,0.015785,-0.001078

Code:

Italy_Sicily_EBA:UZZ057_noUDG,0.117238,0.156392,0.017348,-0.039406,0.026774,-0.025658,-0.00188,-0.011538,0.028429,0.052666,0.004222,0.012139,-0.020961,-0.021194,-0.001086,-0.002917,0.010822,0.00228,0.007542,-0.012256,0.005989,0.011747,-0.006779,-0.008194,0.000359


Italy_South_N.SG:R10.SG,0.124067,0.182795,0.011691,-0.095285,0.054779,-0.044623,0,-0.001615,0.042541,0.084558,0.013641,0.018284,-0.024678,-0.008257,-0.03583,-0.012066,0.022035,0.004307,0.009679,-0.013006,-0.009483,0.000866,-0.000739,-0.006266,0.006466


Italy_PianSultano_BA.SG:R11105.SG,0.136588,0.156392,0.04186,-0.014858,0.060011,-0.00753,-0.00423,0.001385,0.02168,0.037723,0.007957,0.006894,-0.023191,-0.00867,0.000543,0.000928,0.007823,0.003041,0.007039,-0.002376,0.003369,0.000495,-0.006779,-0.00482,-0.008143


Italy_Broion_BA.SG:BRC007.SG,0.119514,0.146236,0.038466,-0.021641,0.047393,-0.008925,-0.001175,-0.010153,0.023316,0.060867,0.002436,0.008692,-0.025867,-0.017478,-0.003393,0.008884,0.028945,0.002407,-0.000628,-0.007504,-0.001248,0.000124,-0.00419,-0.001928,0.000239


Italy_Broion_EBA.SG:BRC010.SG,0.130897,0.162485,0.034318,-0.027132,0.063704,-0.016455,0.005405,-0.001615,0.02352,0.056858,-0.000162,0.019333,-0.00773,-0.007844,-0.002036,-0.018297,-0.010691,-0.0019,0.00905,-0.006378,-0.00836,0.003215,-0.001725,-0.007109,-0.011735

Pick one of the 5 Italian if you're northwest euro and run your results. I grabbed these 5 at random.

Flann Fina · Dec 28, 2023

Target: Flann_Fina Distance: 1.9506% / 0.01950633 \| ADC: 0.5x
52.8	England_MIA_LIA:I21310

27.0	Scotland_LBA:I2859

8.4	Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG

6.4	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG

2.8	Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906

2.0	Italy_South_N.SG:R10.SG

0.6	Netherlands_LIA:I17750

Distance to:	Flann_Fina

0.02557378

England_MIA_LIA:I21310

0.02888096

Scotland_LBA:I2859

0.03277663	France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03990086	Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906

0.04089221	Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG
0.04520175	Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.04527793	Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG

0.04568682	Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG
0.04617530	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.04629629	Netherlands_LIA:I17750

0.04630571	Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.04798672	Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.12217668	Italy_Sicily_EBA:UZZ057_noUDG

0.19630916

Italy_South_N.SG:R10.SG

HolyGoose · Dec 28, 2023

Target: TheHolyGoose_AncestryDNA_scaled Distance: 1.5536% / 0.01553612
43.8	England_MIA_LIA
38.4	Sweden_IA.SG
9.6	Spain_IA
3.8	Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG
3.6	Greece_BA_Mycenaean
0.8	Norway_IA.SG

Target: TheHolyGoose_AncestryDNA_scaled Distance: 1.5538% / 0.01553780 \| R5P
44.4	England_MIA_LIA
39.0	Sweden_IA.SG
9.8	Spain_IA
3.6	Greece_BA_Mycenaean
3.2	Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG

Distance to:	TheHolyGoose_AncestryDNA_scaled
0.02555642	England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.02555642	England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.03118386	France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03118386	France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03513110	Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.03513110	Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.03812115	Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906
0.03914825	Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG
0.03965893	Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.04155267	Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG
0.04307187	Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG
0.04713053	Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.04713053	Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.04981151	Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.04981151	Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.05000567	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.05000567	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.05186768	Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.05186768	Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.05263105	Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.05263105	Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.06306765	Italy_Tuscany_Grosseto_Etruscan:CSN008
0.06314949	Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R435.SG
0.06604955	Spain_IA:I12879
0.07480906	Spain_EBA_Mallorca:I4329

Target: TheHolyGoose_23andMe_scaled Distance: 1.7675% / 0.01767528
44.8	Sweden_IA.SG
26.0	England_MIA_LIA
11.4	Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG
7.4	Italy_IA_Republic.SG
5.4	Sweden_IA_2.SG
5.0	Greece_BA_Mycenaean

Target: TheHolyGoose_23andMe_scaled Distance: 1.7784% / 0.01778403 \| R5P
41.6	Sweden_IA.SG
30.8	England_MIA_LIA
16.2	Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG
6.0	Greece_BA_Mycenaean
5.4	Sweden_IA_2.SG

Distance to:	TheHolyGoose_23andMe_scaled
0.02955743	England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.02955743	England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.03508046	France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03508046	France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03804689	Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.03804689	Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.03811865	Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.03938806	Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906
0.04309515	Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG
0.04332146	Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG
0.04380729	Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG
0.05008508	Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.05008508	Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.05015963	Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.05015963	Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.05041578	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.05041578	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.05434015	Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.05434015	Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.05506875	Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.05506875	Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.06504503	Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R435.SG
0.06685984	Italy_Tuscany_Grosseto_Etruscan:CSN008
0.07000458	Spain_IA:I12879
0.07755920	Spain_EBA_Mallorca:I4329

qh777 · Dec 28, 2023

Results with Italy South Neolithic:

qh777 · Dec 29, 2023

Let's have some fun.

Code:

Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG,0.130897,0.131003,0.070899,0.063631,0.0437,0.023148,0.00235,0.014538,0.011044,-0.010752,-0.003897,0.006444,-0.002825,-0.00234,0.021037,0.00053,-0.023208,0.006334,0.006034,0.007253,0.011979,0.011129,-0.001479,0.008314,-0.002036
Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG,0.124067,0.131003,0.061471,0.069445,0.042162,0.019801,0.003055,0.011307,0.006136,-0.011116,-0.003735,0.009591,-0.005946,-0.006744,0.02253,0.013524,-0.003129,0.010642,0.004148,0.007754,0.005366,0.003215,0.003821,0.018316,0.005149
England_MIA_LIA:I21310,0.132035,0.138112,0.053174,0.041667,0.041238,0.013666,0.00423,0.005077,0.005318,0.014032,-0.007307,0.007793,-0.013231,-0.016515,0.02443,0.005967,-0.010952,0.003927,-0.000126,0.002126,0.003993,0.005688,-0.003944,0.006507,-0.006586
France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817,0.129758,0.137096,0.057322,0.044251,0.043085,0.01757,0.00423,-0.006461,0.005727,0.003827,-0.007957,0.01109,-0.014569,-0.013212,0.022258,-0.006629,-0.020992,0.005954,-0.00088,0.01113,0.010606,0.00507,0.003821,0.002892,0.001796
Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG,0.126344,0.132019,0.060716,0.060401,0.031698,0.014781,0.003995,0.01223,0.004909,-0.006378,0.000974,0.007943,-0.008325,-0.024359,0.027008,0.020021,0.00352,-0.000507,-0.005531,0.003502,0.015098,0.00915,0.004314,0.00735,0.004431
Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG,0.129758,0.133034,0.078064,0.06783,0.056934,0.023148,0.000705,0.011076,0.013499,-0.005467,-0.003573,0.00015,-0.005798,-0.008808,0.018865,0.011668,-0.007432,-0.00076,0.004777,0.008254,0.00262,0.005564,-0.002711,0.019159,-0.000359
Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG,0.12862,0.126941,0.06939,0.0646,0.035391,0.01757,0.012221,0.003692,0.00225,-0.009659,0.00065,0.002847,-0.008474,0.006606,0.016829,-0.009679,-0.01708,0.006081,0.008296,0.001751,0.001248,0.000247,0.000246,0.006025,-0.000958
Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG,0.135449,0.125926,0.061094,0.052326,0.034776,0.020638,-0.00658,-0.000231,0,-0.003098,-0.013641,0.004496,-0.01442,-0.011973,0.031351,0.007823,-0.014342,-0.000887,0.005154,0.011756,0.008984,0.004204,-0.000246,0.001084,-0.002994
Scotland_LBA:I2859,0.132035,0.138112,0.061471,0.052972,0.037545,0.012271,0.006345,0.007615,0.003272,0.00328,-0.00747,0.006894,-0.019177,-0.016102,0.024022,0.011138,-0.008866,0.002407,0.005405,0.009004,0.006988,0.009027,0.002588,0.010363,0.009819
Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906,0.119514,0.13405,0.054305,0.041667,0.039084,0.016176,0.01081,0.005769,0.007158,0.011116,0.001137,0.017534,-0.003419,-0.003853,0.007465,-0.005834,-0.022687,0.002407,0.002011,0.008504,0.012478,0.013973,-0.002342,-0.000241,0.005508
Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG,0.122929,0.126941,0.07731,0.067507,0.038161,0.028168,0.005875,0.002538,0.003272,-0.005832,-0.006496,0.003747,-0.012933,-0.009496,0.026873,0.007955,-0.009648,0.005448,0.005908,0.010755,0.014474,-0.001237,0.002958,0.00482,0.002994
Netherlands_LIA:I17750,0.134311,0.120848,0.072407,0.049096,0.03416,0.019522,0.009165,0.005769,-0.004704,-0.008565,-0.009743,0.006594,-0.013231,-0.005918,0.019272,0.019491,0.009388,0.00228,0.008547,0.007629,0.004866,0.006925,0.011832,0.015785,-0.001078
Egyptian_Old_Kingdom_Period_Gizeh:I6409,0.029665247,0.13868540,-0.047587444,-0.14426329,-0.0022221347,-0.063518622,-0.014261081,-0.013556098,0.087986490,0.0041161682,-0.0028172711,-0.019512651,0.055365686,0.0068209691,0.0071103512,0.014172621,-0.0011899901,-0.019799603,-0.021658496,0.032836460,-0.0024145371,-0.010472191,-0.0046426664,-0.0034683108,0.0029676763
Egyptian_Old_Middle_Kingdom_Period_Dahshur:I10020,0.011530275,0.13728656,-0.049170061,-0.11359996,0.00099127203,-0.049440638,-0.020387999,-0.0026683728,0.062675346,-0.0081175666,0.0020009024,-0.011293133,0.028314321,0.020438082,0.0095046032,0.0088030027,-0.017175880,-0.0096735594,-0.0038784026,0.00068539449,0.0029141859,-0.015338366,-0.0043286787,-0.0012691466,0.0014364105
Egyptian_Middle_Kingdom-Djehuty_Nakht_2100B.C:I6130,0.053504150,0.13702279,-0.042256778,-0.088577892,0.0016483012,-0.037922341,-0.014478379,-0.0022917330,0.032911256,0.0051009809,0.0091531458,-0.013376381,0.026522487,0.0012096728,-0.0043573045,-0.0011185066,-0.021307803,6.0763451e-05,0.0033831153,0.0024352202,0.0013931869,-0.0017261886,0.0014597641,0.0049339092,0.0086866961
Egyptian_Dynasties_Period:I4270,0.029426332,0.12950421,-0.035513124,-0.086261212,0.00033343075,-0.051749749,-0.019966154,-0.0054937906,0.034047365,-0.0075339831,0.0072808600,-0.0097472856,0.017746303,0.0042224539,-0.0035992889,0.017692031,-0.0029042799,0.0011414125,-4.6902190e-05,-0.0047014951,0.0096118254,0.0052474445,0.0030944825,0.0031438881,0.0037047543
Egyptian_Middle_Kingdom_Period:Egyptian_1879bc:Nakht-Ankh,0.0012,0.129,-0.044,-0.0965,-0.0031,-0.0534,-0.017,-0.0078,0.0551,-0.0049,0.0138,-0.0172,0.0306,-0.0015,0.0069,-0.0072,-0.0111,0.0053,-0.004,0.0042,-0.0012,0.0046,-0.0078,0.0026,-0.0013
Egyptian_Ptleomic_Period:EGY_Hellenistic_contam:JK2888,0.040976,0.159438,-0.055437,-0.102068,0,-0.060798,-0.023266,-0.008307,0.048472,0.007472,0.015427,-0.019782,0.034341,-0.004129,0.00475,-0.015646,-0.024121,0.007348,-0.005028,-0.00025,-0.004617,0.008285,-0.012571,0.005302,-0.005987
Egyptian_Late_Kingdom_Period:EGY_Late_Period:JK2134,0.046667,0.152329,-0.037712,-0.121126,0,-0.054384,-0.010575,-0.006231,0.048472,0.007289,0.000162,-0.010191,0.026164,0.000138,0,-0.008486,-0.007953,-0.005194,-0.00176,0.006878,0.005989,0.001237,0.005053,0.013134,0.006227
Egyptian_Late_Kingdom_Period:EGY_Late_Period:JK2911,0.053497,0.141159,-0.04714,-0.115635,-0.004001,-0.04518,-0.020681,-0.003231,0.046427,0.005103,0.017863,-0.012739,0.0333,-0.011836,-0.001629,0.004375,-0.00691,0.001267,-0.005279,0.017133,0.005241,0.002102,0.002218,-0.005302,-0.007424
Egyptian_Outlier:Byzantine_Period:Iznik_Basilica_Nun,0.034147,0.143190,-0.036958,-0.089956,0.014157,-0.035001,-0.012574,-0.004385,0.047654,0.016766,0.008282,-0.010416,0.026313,-0.001170,0.004208,-0.005635,-0.005802,-0.009312,-0.019986,0.007254,-0.006426,-0.013355,0.005978,-0.004820,0.002036
Egyptian_Outlier:Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian:SFI-43,0.037562,0.14319,-0.050911,-0.109821,0.000615,-0.045459,-0.009635,0.001154,0.044995,0.006196,0.012991,-0.020382,0.0388,0.001101,-0.000407,0.005436,-0.002999,-0.002914,-0.004399,0.018259,0.013975,0.002968,0.001356,0.005302,-0.003353
Egyptian_Outlier:Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian:SFI-44,0.046667,0.146236,-0.040729,-0.094639,-0.000308,-0.03765,-0.011281,0.000231,0.041109,0.006743,0.010068,-0.010341,0.024529,-0.000826,0.006379,-0.010607,-0.015125,-0.001774,-0.002137,-0.001376,0.010107,0.009645,-0.001109,-0.001807,0.002754
Egyptian_Outlier:England_Roman_Period_Egyptian_Gladiator_o:3DT26,0.05122,0.156392,-0.050911,-0.102068,-0.003077,-0.044065,-0.012926,-0.007154,0.031906,0.000364,0.004384,-0.015436,0.027354,0.003853,-0.003936,0.005304,-0.000782,-0.001014,-0.005908,0.010505,0.003494,-0.003833,-0.001109,0.006868,-0.010059

Egyptian samples come from https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/155/alwakeel-ancient-egyptians.htm by Alwakeel.

Dorquest · Dec 29, 2023

Target: Dorquest_scaled Distance: 2.6032% / 0.02603189
43.4	England_MIA_LIA:I21310

37.2	Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG

10.8	Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG

6.2	Egyptian_Late_Kingdom_Period:EGY_Late_Period:JK2134

2.4	France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817

Distance to:	Dorquest_scaled
0.03511505	England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.03674086	France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.04412607	Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.04444054	Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906
0.04490718	Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.04602258	Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG
0.04823407	Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG
0.05497878	Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.05584763	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.05618035	Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.05640989	Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.05874663	Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.20222709	Egyptian_Middle_Kingdom-Djehuty_Nakht_2100B.C:I6130
0.20664580	Egyptian_Outlier:Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian:SFI-44
0.20977517	Egyptian_Outlier:Byzantine_Period:Iznik_Basilica_Nun
0.21282977	Egyptian_Dynasties_Period:I4270
0.21919688	Egyptian_Outlier:England_Roman_Period_Egyptian_Gladiator_o:3DT26
0.22970989	Egyptian_Late_Kingdom_Period:EGY_Late_Period:JK2134
0.23038060	Egyptian_Late_Kingdom_Period:EGY_Late_Period:JK2911
0.23307037	Egyptian_Outlier:Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian:SFI-43
0.23424213	Egyptian_Ptleomic_Period:EGY_Hellenistic_contam:JK2888
0.24145995	Egyptian_Middle_Kingdom_Period:Egyptian_1879bc:Nakht-Ankh
0.24885331	Egyptian_Old_Middle_Kingdom_Period_Dahshur:I10020
0.28073586	Egyptian_Old_Kingdom_Period_Gizeh:I6409

Flann Fina · Dec 29, 2023

Let‘s have some fun version:

Target: Flann_Fina Distance: 2.1174% / 0.02117425 \| ADC: 0.5x
58.0	England_MIA_LIA:I21310

22.4	Scotland_LBA:I2859

7.6	Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906

5.0	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG

4.4	Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG

2.6	Netherlands_LIA:I17750

Distance to:	Flann_Fina
0.02557378	England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.02888096	Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.03277663	France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03990086	Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906
0.04089221	Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG
0.04520175	Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.04527793	Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG
0.04568682	Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG
0.04617530	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.04629629	Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.04630571	Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.04798672	Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG

HolyGoose · Dec 29, 2023

Target: TheHolyGoose_AncestryDNA_scaled Distance: 1.8268% / 0.01826757
62.0	England_MIA_LIA
35.2	Sweden_IA.SG
1.6	Egyptian_Late_Kingdom_Period
1.2	Netherlands_MIA_LIA

Distance to:	TheHolyGoose_AncestryDNA_scaled
0.02555642	England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.03118386	France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03513110	Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.03812115	Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906
0.03914825	Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG
0.03965893	Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.04307187	Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG
0.04713053	Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.04981151	Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.05000567	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.05186768	Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.05263105	Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG

Target: TheHolyGoose_23andMe_scaled Distance: 2.0272% / 0.02027166
54.2	England_MIA_LIA
43.2	Sweden_IA.SG
2.6	Egyptian_Late_Kingdom_Period

Distance to:	TheHolyGoose_23andMe_scaled
0.02955743	England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.03508046	France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03804689	Scotland_LBA:I2859
0.03811865	Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.03938806	Netherlands_MIA_LIA:I12906
0.04332146	Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG
0.04380729	Scotland_BlackIsle_IA.SG:KD001.SG
0.05008508	Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.05015963	Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.05041578	Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.05434015	Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.05506875	Ireland_EBA.SG:rath3_noUDG.SG

qh777 · Dec 30, 2023

Here's when I reduce to 3 populations
Still below 0.02

qh777 · Dec 30, 2023

This is just the northwest euro samples and Djehuty Nakht only. Djehuty Nakht from 2100 bc predates the 2nd intermediate period in which began the Hyksos' rule in Lower Egypt.

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