Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
Who cares about blue eyes and nordids ?? Wasn't this thread supposed to be about Italians genetics ?
)Who is trolling about Italians? I'm certainly not complexed. .
It says that most Italians have not black hair, as people normally think, but brown hair
Who is she? She looks likes me! I got scared for a second, I thought it was my pic! Only I have more oval face and blue eyes (hers look like blue-gray in the pic).
I don't think any European has real black hair. Very dark brown yes but not black. The only true black haired Greeks I've seen are girls who listen to gothic rock, but the color is fake of course. I didn't see any black haired Italian when I visited Italy either...
Of topic: I noticed in Wilhelm's links that Greeks do not cluster with Turks so this should make people who still support the stupid idea that Greeks and Turks mixed a lot during the Ottoman empire rethink about it...
)
Well, it's a topic about Italian genetic soo let's talk about Italian people.
I can tell you that among the numerous people of Italian background (there are plenty in France) I know, many have grey-blue eyes.
Also, I have lived many Years In Alsace and Doubs region. I know quite well the North Eastern France phenotypes (also including Lorraine, Burgundy...) and many Northern Italian people match those phenotypes. I suppose R1b U152 has something to do with it. It is recorded by Latin author that Northern Italy (Cisalpine Gaul) suffered massive invasion from Northern Transalpine Gaul so it's not surprising at all to find some similarities between Alsatian and Northern Italian.
Actually no european country has majority black, but brown or dark-brown.Sybilla said:It says that most Italians have not black hair, as people normally think, but brown hair
Actually no european country has majority black, but brown or dark-brown.
I agree. As I said in my post above I haven't seen any people with true black here in Greece or Italy, except for immigrants from Middle East. But even they are not maily black haired. Many are actually dark brown
Some the comments that people post about phenotypes on these threads are absurd. It's like they are trying to create an alternative reality.
Stereotypes have always existed. Everyone thinks that Northern Europeans, like Swedes, are almost totaly blond, but as adults they are about 50%.
Spanish and Portuguese are always told that they look like Latin Americans and that they have African dna, Greeks are supposed to be dark mixed with Turks, Italians are told they have high African admixture etc etc. But the reality is far from all that. In Greece we have a saying: when you hear the tree has many cherries take a small basket with you... (loose translation :grin
People tend to exaggerate when it comes to stereotypes. Yes Southern Europeans are of course more tanned than Northerns but it doesn't go more than that. Plus, I can hardly tell apart Greeks from Spanish or Italians. When I visited Italy it felt like home, (familiar faces everywhere!) and I always talk Greek to people at summer who turn out to be Spanish tourists.
Who is she? She looks likes me! I got scared for a second, I thought it was my pic! Only I have more oval face and blue eyes (hers look like blue-gray in the pic).
Stereotypes have always existed. Everyone thinks that Northern Europeans, like Swedes, are almost totaly blond, but as adults they are about 50%.
Spanish and Portuguese are always told that they look like Latin Americans and that they have African dna, Greeks are supposed to be dark mixed with Turks, Italians are told they have high African admixture etc etc. But the reality is far from all that. In Greece we have a saying: when you hear the tree has many cherries take a small basket with you... (loose translation). The only truth is that we are all facing a crisis :grin:
People tend to exaggerate when it comes to stereotypes. Yes Southern Europeans are of course more tanned than Northerns but it doesn't go more than that. Plus, I can hardly tell apart Greeks from Spanish or Italians. When I visited Italy it felt like home, (familiar faces everywhere!) and I always talk Greek to people at summer who turn out to be Spanish tourists.
Italians have various Y-DNA haplogroups, higher variety than Northern Europeans, but still they look completely European to me and their autosomal DNA proves that they are. Same goes for all us southern countries in Europe.
Spain has ~ 35% light eyes, not that much less than France.
Actually no european country has majority black, but brown or dark-brown.
Really? Never met spanish with light (?) eyes.
Really? Never met spanish with light (?) eyes.
This thread has been viewed 260214 times.