Genetic Origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans

eupator said:
These are the new samples from Greece introduced in the study, for reference, with their haplos:

Code: 
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I14916[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Minoan_Zakros_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Crete, Zakros, Karaviadaina[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]H[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I6420_d[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Lokris_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Fthiotis, Lokris, Proskynas[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]J[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]..[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I15582[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Attica, Kolikrepi-Spata[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]T2c1+146[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13519_d[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Pylos, Palace of Nestor[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]..[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I14872[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Attica, Kolikrepi-Spata[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]HV[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I15571[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Attica, Kolikrepi-Spata[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]HV0a[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I16709[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Attica, Kolikrepi-Spata[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]J-Y14434[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]H5[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13516[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Pylos, Palace of Nestor[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]J1c1[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13510[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Pylos, Palace of Nestor[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]G-P287[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]H7[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13517_d[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Pylos, Palace of Nestor[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]G-Z6494[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]..[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I19366[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Pylos, Palace of Nestor[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]J1c+16261[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13578[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]K1a2[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13428[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]G-L30[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]H2[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13579[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]J-Y14434[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]W1[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13577[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]G-Z7016[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]T2c1d1[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13536_d[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA_lc[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]..[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13531[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]U3b[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13433[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]U3b1[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13580[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]G-P287[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]K2b[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13514[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Pylos, Palace of Nestor[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]K1c1[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13513_d[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_BA_Mycenaean_lc[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Pylos, Palace of Nestor[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]U[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (sex unknown)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]..[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13532[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]U3b1b[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13518[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Pylos, Palace of Nestor[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]R-PF7563[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]N1a1a1a3[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I13506_d[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA_father.or.son.I13518[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Pylos, Palace of Nestor[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]R-M269[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]..[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I19364[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Pylos, Palace of Nestor[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]R-M269[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]X[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I19368[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Palace_of_Nestor_EIA[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Pylos, Palace of Nestor[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]F[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]n/a  (female)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]U8b1a[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I17959[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Kastrouli_Anc[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]J[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]J1c[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I17960[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Anc_lc[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]..[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]J1[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I17962[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Kastrouli_Anc[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]T-S27463[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]U8b1b[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]I7833[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]GRC_Marathon_Rom[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Vranas Marathon[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Greece[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]M[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]T-CTS3767[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]H[/COLOR][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Click to expand...

interesting that the T ydna samples both belong to the branch T1a2
 
ihype02 said:
This part:
If we take the maximum steppe ancestry in Minoans and the minimum in Mycenaeans (from the model) as the default then it would imply that most steppe ancestry in Mycenaeans came before the Greek language or before the known steppe related migrations occurred. (2.7% -> 3.3%)
Click to expand...



Your issue ultimately lies with the fact that you are convinced that high EHG signals are the absolute and sole vector of PIE in ancient Greeks, which, as Southern Arc has demonstrated, could well not be the case at all.
 
Angela said:
Fwiw, and I have no dog in this particular fight, I think the Reich Lab is barking up the wrong tree in trying to prove that PPN was in every single group of West Asians, including most Europeans.

Whatever PPN was in the Mycenaeans probably came with the Anatolian farmers, and even if they were later enriched with it through trade with Crete which might then have spread northwards, to do an analysis with two groups which have so much overlap risks coming up with an incorrect result.

I also concur that such a conclusion contradicts the yDna evidence.

I don't know why the Reich Lab has abandoned using it to track migrations, but I think it's a mistake. That's its greatest utility.
Click to expand...

Their PPNB does not seem to be from Anatolian Farmers, PPNB increased later in Anatolia. The PPNB in Greece seems to be Anatolia C/EBA related. If there was any direct Bronze Age Levantine its probably less than 5%. Mycenaeans score around 10% PPNB but there is 2-3% Standard Error. Anatolia BA scores 13% from what i remember and Mycenaeans seem to be a mix of Aegean Farmer + Anatolia C/EBA + Balkan.

0I9BTU6.png
 
I'M J1-ZS4349 the same as the sample as empuries , my autosomal dna is central europe halsttat la tene , illyrian thrace
 
Fascinating! Diodorus Siculus accurate testimony of Subsaharah Africans, particularly in South Sudan and Ethiopia.

"Now the Ethiopians, as historians relate, were the first of all people and the proofs of this statement, they say, are clear. They say that practically everyone agrees that they did not come into their land as immigrants from abroad but were natives of it and so are rightly described as “sprung from the land” (autochthones; or: indigenous). Furthermore, it is clear to everyone that those who dwell beneath the noon-day sun were, in all likelihood, the first to be generated by the earth. This is because, insofar as the warmth of the sun dried up the earth when it was still wet and impregnated it with life at the time when the universe was generated, it is reasonable to suppose that the region which was nearest the sun was the first to bring forth living creatures."

"The majority of them, and especially those who dwell along the river, are dark-skinnedand have flat noses and wooly hair."

"As for their weapons, some of them use shields of raw ox-hide and short spears, others javelins without a slinging-thong and sometimes bows of wood, four cubits in length, with which they shoot by putting their foot against them. After their arrows are exhausted, they finish the fight with wooden clubs. They also arm their women, setting an age limit for their service, and most of these observe the custom of wearing a bronze ring in the lip. (5) As for clothing, certain of them wear nothing at all, going naked all their life long and making for themselves of whatever comes to hand a rude protection from the heat alone. Others, cutting off the tails and the ends of the hides of their sheep, cover their loins with them, putting the tail before them to screen, after a manner, the shameful part. Some make use of the skins of their domestic animals, while there are those who cover their bodies as far as the waist with shirts, which they weave of hair, since their sheep do not produce wool by reason of the peculiar nature of the land."



Now most of these Eastern African tribes, have abandoned those customs, save for several small tribes in Southern Ethiopia. Two biggest tribes of South Sudan used to wear ring plates and their women participated in war. Must be an ancient tradition.

Compared to Strabo, Herodotus and several other writers. Diodorus runs circles around them in this topic. He was, also, the only one (or at least one of the few) to record the Eastern Mediterranean slave trade in Italy.

I should really examine his work and accuracy for future use.

https://www.philipharland.com/Blog/2022/08/ethiopians-diodoros-first-century-bce/
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

This thread has been viewed 1176764 times.

Back
Top