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Genetic study Genomes from 82 Etruscans and Southern Italians.(800 BCE – 1,000 CE).

torzio said:
Covoloni de Broion has nothing to do with etruscans ...............it is part of the indigenous Euganei people who have been in North East Italy since at least 3500BC ........that paper states they only have ydna of R1b1 and G2a3

Etruscans associate closer with the Umbri people on the Adriatic side of italy

Why does everyone try to rubbish the indigenous Ligurians and Euganei of northern Italy ? ................maybe a fantasy of Etruscan dominance of Italy, which never happened ? .....................the best is to check the dominance of etruscans over Rome and the 9 generations of etruscan rule over them.
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I am confused :indifferent:...

My points personally had nothing to do with that. More of a question whether these samples are in any way related to the ones on the map (Covoloni de Brion are not even Etruscan in that map, so I wasn't even referring to them...).

Maybe you were not addressing me, or maybe I did not understand what you meant?
 
There is already a published Imperial period Roman sample from Etruria (Chiusi, 200-400 AD). In the PCA this sample ends up with modern people from Italian Latium, I would say it has less than ~50% admixture from the eastern Mediterranean. Perhaps it's much more complex, even in Imperial Roman times the population was more diverse, there aren't enough samples to draw conclusions.




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^^interesting, could you point me to the study? I would like to analyze it with Dodecad.
 
brick said:
There is already a published Imperial period Roman sample from Etruria (Chiusi, 200-400 AD). In the PCA this sample ends up with modern people from Italian Latium, I would say it has less than ~50% admixture from the eastern Mediterranean. Perhaps it's much more complex, even in Imperial Roman times the population was more diverse, there aren't enough samples to draw conclusions.




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Thanks for sharing this resource!

Does anybody know what they refer to when they say Eastern Mediterranean? Since the Mediterranean is so vast, it could mean many things.
 
Thank you, Brick

Dodecad K12b

Code: 
ETR001,8.19,0,2.62,0.45,33.92,11.31,0,0,12.02,0,31.49,0
 
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]ETR001[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D9FF00, align: right"]6.38203729[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EFFF00, align: right"]7.03265242[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFB00, align: right"]7.62693910[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.38596446[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.38833142[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]9.60335879[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAB00, align: right"]9.96289115[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAB00, align: right"]9.96578647[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8900, align: right"]10.96518582[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8700, align: right"]11.02515760[/TD]
[TD]Moldovan_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8100, align: right"]11.19228752[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Lemnos[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7F00, align: right"]11.26296586[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7500, align: right"]11.56550474[/TD]
[TD]French_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5E00, align: right"]12.23690320[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Central[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5C00, align: right"]12.30425130[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Fournoi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5A00, align: right"]12.35916664[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Athens[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5900, align: right"]12.37459494[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Foca[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5100, align: right"]12.60453490[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Izmir[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4C00, align: right"]12.77140556[/TD]
[TD]Sephardic_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3A00, align: right"]13.30770078[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3900, align: right"]13.32534052[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3900, align: right"]13.33030007[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Icaria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3400, align: right"]13.47303975[/TD]
[TD]Morocco_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2100, align: right"]14.03145039[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Kos[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1C00, align: right"]14.16424018[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Peloponnese

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]ETR001[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C3FF00, align: right"]5.72585365[/TD]
[TD]Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DFFF00, align: right"]6.56417550[/TD]
[TD]6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF000, align: right"]7.93676256[/TD]
[TD]Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD000, align: right"]8.87417602[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Greeks_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCE00, align: right"]8.93407522[/TD]
[TD]EMBA_Greece_(n=6)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA200, align: right"]10.23708455[/TD]
[TD]Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA000, align: right"]10.29304134[/TD]
[TD]Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8F00, align: right"]10.80237474[/TD]
[TD]Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5F00, align: right"]12.19273964[/TD]
[TD]Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0003, align: right"]15.07897211[/TD]
[TD]Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0041, align: right"]16.92457976[/TD]
[TD]Bronze_Age_Sicily_(n=15)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF004B, align: right"]17.19678749[/TD]
[TD]Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=7)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0057, align: right"]17.57018497[/TD]
[TD]Etruscans_(n=3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0058, align: right"]17.58842801[/TD]
[TD]Chalcolithic_Bulgaria_(n=9)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF005D, align: right"]17.74870418[/TD]
[TD]Minoan_Greece_(n=10)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0061, align: right"]17.85048179[/TD]
[TD]Bronze_Age_Illyrians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006A, align: right"]18.12963044[/TD]
[TD]Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006D, align: right"]18.21896265[/TD]
[TD]Early_Neolithic_Starcevo_culture_(n=8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0088, align: right"]18.99202464[/TD]
[TD]Villanovans_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF009C, align: right"]19.58193300[/TD]
[TD]Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00A9, align: right"]19.98121117[/TD]
[TD]Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00AE, align: right"]20.12171464[/TD]
[TD]Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D2, align: right"]21.18671046[/TD]
[TD]LN_Lengyel_culture_(n=8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00ED, align: right"]21.97552730[/TD]
[TD]Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FE00FF, align: right"]22.54377076[/TD]
[TD]Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hittites_(n=2)

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Jovialis[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEF00, align: right"]7.95983668[/TD]
[TD]ETR001

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Now this is very interesting to me. ETR001 clusters with C6, and is closest to the so-called Latin-outlier R437 from the Iron Age.

She was a Mediterranean, not an eastern Mediterranean.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]ETR001[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #69FF00, align: right"]3.08917465[/TD]
[TD]C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6AFF00, align: right"]3.12755496[/TD]
[TD]C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #89FF00, align: right"]4.03565360[/TD]
[TD]C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8DFF00, align: right"]4.13444071[/TD]
[TD]C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A8FF00, align: right"]4.93768164[/TD]
[TD]C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AAFF00, align: right"]5.00859262[/TD]
[TD]C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ACFF00, align: right"]5.05356310[/TD]
[TD]C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BDFF00, align: right"]5.56285898[/TD]
[TD]C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]6.02139519[/TD]
[TD]C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D6FF00, align: right"]6.29034975[/TD]
[TD]C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R47_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DDFF00, align: right"]6.51112126[/TD]
[TD]C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]6.52214689[/TD]
[TD]C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E2FF00, align: right"]6.66137373[/TD]
[TD]C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EEFF00, align: right"]6.98725983[/TD]
[TD]C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EFFF00, align: right"]7.02551777[/TD]
[TD]C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F7FF00, align: right"]7.25305453[/TD]
[TD]C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF200, align: right"]7.88702098[/TD]
[TD]C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF000, align: right"]7.93834366[/TD]
[TD]C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEE00, align: right"]8.01208462[/TD]
[TD]C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE800, align: right"]8.17496789[/TD]
[TD]C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE400, align: right"]8.30575704[/TD]
[TD]C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDE00, align: right"]8.45656550[/TD]
[TD]C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDE00, align: right"]8.47171765[/TD]
[TD]C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDC00, align: right"]8.53086748[/TD]
[TD]C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDA00, align: right"]8.58506261[/TD]
[TD]C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R137_Marcellino_&_Pietro
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
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Dodecad 12B using updated Italian samples and my Dodecad 12B coordinates. I am pretty close to this ETR001. Who exactly is this fellow again? Given I am pretty close to this sample, The fact that he clusters with the C6 Cluster from Antonio et al 2019 is not surprising as I cluster with the C6 group as well.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]ETR001[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9CFF00, align: right"]4.58093877[/TD]
[TD]PalermoTrapani_Combined[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D9FF00, align: right"]6.38203729[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EFFF00, align: right"]7.03265242[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFB00, align: right"]7.62693910[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.38596446[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.38833142[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]9.60335879[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAB00, align: right"]9.96578647[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8900, align: right"]10.96518582[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7F00, align: right"]11.26296586[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3900, align: right"]13.32534052[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0001, align: right"]15.01636108[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Emilia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF001C, align: right"]15.83142445[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Liguria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF007B, align: right"]18.61888557[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008E, align: right"]19.18587241[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF009C, align: right"]19.59393784[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D8, align: right"]21.34612143[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Friuli_VG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DF00FF, align: right"]23.44608496[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8B00FF, align: right"]25.90687747[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Aosta_Valley

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Salento said:
no Y Haplogroup, but… mtDNA showed up as: T1a8a

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Interesting Salento, R850 and ETR001 have similar mtnda as well or is it R850 has Y DNA T1?
 
… ETR001 vs S

… Largest Segment 15.5 cM … maybe a Tourist, … unless all the Tourists are legit :)

tG4xbRc.jpg
 
Salento: In regards to you post #33, that is really close given you are using 7 CM as default, and not 3, etc.
 
Palermo Trapani said:
Salento: In regards to you post #33, that is really close given you are using 7 CM as default, and not 3, etc.
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… that’s why I made the Tourist comment, … that’s a lot of Apulian for an Etruscan, I guess :)
 
Well, what I can say is that ETR is from the Late Roman Empire period...

Given the abstract of this upcoming paper:


"This continuity drastically changes during the Roman Imperial period where we report an abrupt population-wide shift to ~50% admixture with eastern Mediterranean ancestry."We should expect a drastic* difference between ETR001 (~300CE) and some the 82 samples, the ones from the Iron age that predate it. (*using the description from the abstract).
 
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Salento said:
… that’s why I made the Tourist comment, … that’s a lot of Apulian for an Etruscan, I guess :)
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She is Roman, not Etruscan, cannot be considered Etruscan for any reason. The Etruscan chronology ends at the end of the first century BC.


Palermo Trapani said:
Dodecad 12B using updated Italian samples and my Dodecad 12B coordinates. I am pretty close to this ETR001. Who exactly is this fellow again? Given I am pretty close to this sample, The fact that he clusters with the C6 Cluster from Antonio et al 2019 is not surprising as I cluster with the C6 group as well.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]ETR001[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9CFF00, align: right"]4.58093877[/TD]
[TD]PalermoTrapani_Combined[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D9FF00, align: right"]6.38203729[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EFFF00, align: right"]7.03265242[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFB00, align: right"]7.62693910[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.38596446[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.38833142[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]9.60335879[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAB00, align: right"]9.96578647[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8900, align: right"]10.96518582[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7F00, align: right"]11.26296586[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3900, align: right"]13.32534052[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0001, align: right"]15.01636108[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Emilia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF001C, align: right"]15.83142445[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Liguria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF007B, align: right"]18.61888557[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008E, align: right"]19.18587241[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF009C, align: right"]19.59393784[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D8, align: right"]21.34612143[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Friuli_VG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DF00FF, align: right"]23.44608496[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8B00FF, align: right"]25.90687747[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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ETR001 could be anything being she is Roman of the Imperial age. She has a very well-preserved skull, which is why she's in an anthropology museum. She was found in the 1800s, when anything was ascribed with too much easiness to the Etruscans because at the time it was very difficult to date a skull accurately. So she is actually without an accurate archaeological context, and was found in Chiusi at the border between Tuscany and Umbria, but nowhere is mentioned the name of the necropolis, this suggests that they probably don't even know. It is probably reuse in late Roman times of an older tomb.

Among the ancient DNA samples her mtDNA was found in Ptolemaic Egypt. Among modern samples in an Italian sample (Pala 2012) but the study does not say from what area of Italy.



224802_web.jpg
 
Pax Augusta: So she is Roman (not He), so mtdna is the key which is T1a as Salento Noted. Jovialis post 30 shows ETR001 is very close to the C6 Med Cluster from Antonio et al 2019 and close to South/Central modern Italy starting with Marche and moving Southward. I ran the top 6 C6 Romans that Jovialis ran in post 30 (ones with distances < 5) vs. Modern Italian samples, only included the ones that had at least 1 with a distance < 10. ETR001 does not to me seem to different from modern Italians

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Sicily[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #72FF00, align: right"]3.35404234[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #75FF00, align: right"]3.44389315[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]5.08254857[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C5FF00, align: right"]5.80417953[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D2FF00, align: right"]6.18016181[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]6.53940364[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEC00, align: right"]8.07264517[/TD]
[TD]R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBB00, align: right"]9.49430882[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #73FF00, align: right"]3.37182443[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #74FF00, align: right"]3.40208759[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A1FF00, align: right"]4.74745195[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A7FF00, align: right"]4.92633738[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]5.09174823[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]6.07623239[/TD]
[TD]R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]6.09424319[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FDFF00, align: right"]7.45135558[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Apulia[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BFFF00, align: right"]5.63133199[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C4FF00, align: right"]5.76332369[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]7.07757020[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]7.15357253[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF200, align: right"]7.89144473[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD100, align: right"]8.83920245[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC300, align: right"]9.25052971[/TD]
[TD]R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA000, align: right"]10.29657225[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Campania[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #43FF00, align: right"]1.98408669[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #64FF00, align: right"]2.95387881[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7EFF00, align: right"]3.70673711[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9BFF00, align: right"]4.55702754[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A3FF00, align: right"]4.78842354[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A7FF00, align: right"]4.92595168[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ECFF00, align: right"]6.93185401[/TD]
[TD]R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDB00, align: right"]8.56571655[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Calabria[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A2FF00, align: right"]4.75823497[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B3FF00, align: right"]5.26492165[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D6FF00, align: right"]6.28000796[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E2FF00, align: right"]6.64693162[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]6.86971615[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]7.65354820[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB300, align: right"]9.74266904[/TD]
[TD]R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7900, align: right"]11.45484614[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Lazio[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DAFF00, align: right"]6.39973437[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]7.35437965[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFB00, align: right"]7.60505753[/TD]
[TD]R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE300, align: right"]8.32478829[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDF00, align: right"]8.44094189[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDC00, align: right"]8.51764052[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB900, align: right"]9.57301415[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB600, align: right"]9.63911303[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Marche[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ACFF00, align: right"]5.05660004[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]6.22497100[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DAFF00, align: right"]6.40141109[/TD]
[TD]R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFC00, align: right"]7.59623881[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF600, align: right"]7.75295453[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF400, align: right"]7.81467747[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDD00, align: right"]8.48859847[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCB00, align: right"]9.02768874[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Romagna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]7.09165002[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC800, align: right"]9.11096043[/TD]
[TD]R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBE00, align: right"]9.40319095[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8D00, align: right"]10.84811043[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7F00, align: right"]11.25035999[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7C00, align: right"]11.34562471[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7300, align: right"]11.63032244[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5B00, align: right"]12.32640661[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Tuscany[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD000, align: right"]8.87597882[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8000, align: right"]11.22107392[/TD]
[TD]R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6A00, align: right"]11.87459052[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3700, align: right"]13.39049663[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2100, align: right"]14.01787074[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2000, align: right"]14.04972953[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1D00, align: right"]14.13979137[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0500, align: right"]14.84405605[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
@PT
… the one to one with the “Roman” ETR001 has a MRCA (most recent common ancestry) of 3.1 Generations, … She’s like a Modern Italian, I Think.
 
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