German Parenting Magazine warns of "Nazi Families"

[Tomenable]

The claim that the National Socialists were a right wing party, is one of the biggest lies of modern leftist ideologues.

Another lie of the left is that the issue of slavery in the US was North vs. South instead of Republicans vs. Democrats:

 

[Tomenable]

Today 80% of African-Americans are voting for their former masters, just because they offer them some welfare.

I wonder how many slaves did the Clinton family own prior to 1860 ??? Trumps did not own any at that time:

 

[Angela]

Stop trying to deflect from the topic of your own thread. Who cares how you precisely define Nazism on a left-right continuum? Who cares, for these purposes, about the precise causes of the Civil War?

This is what you always do when you fail at making your major point.

No one here is excusing slavery. No one is trying to bring it back.

We're talking about groups in Germany and in eastern Europe who are openly excusing Nazism and hoping to reinstate it. If people are concerned about it I don't blame them.

 

[Tomenable]

Such groups exist in Eastern Europe only in imagination of some people.

If anything it is Western Europe which is more in danger of electing far right governments in near future. Look how fast support for such parties is growing in France, Britain, Denmark, Austria, and so on. In Austria leftists even dared to falsify election results in order to prevent Norbert Hofer from winning, but it became unraveled and I'm sure that he is going to win in re-run.

"First poll predicts Austrian far-right to win election re-run":

https://www.thelocal.at/20160729/far-right-hofer-edges-ahead-in-first-poll-on-election-re-run

It is all the fault of leftists and their unrealistic assumptions about multiculturalism, integration and mass immigration. Already several years ago Merkel openly admitted that integration of immigrants in Germany was a big failure. And then what did she do? She invited even more immigrants from the 3rd World, just to make the failure that she had previously declared even worse.

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Have you seen these new German language textbooks, published specially for Muslim "refugees":

^ Shouldn't this woman be wearing a hijab and a burka, dressing modestly, instead of being naked?

What kind of "ethnic mixing" (or even openly encouraging rapes, perhaps?) leftist agenda is this ???

 

[Angela]

Such groups exist in Eastern Europe only in imagination of some people.

If anything it is Western Europe which is more in danger of electing far right governments in near future. Look how fast support for such parties is growing in France, Britain, Denmark, Austria, and so on. In Austria leftists even dared to falsify election results in order to prevent Norbert Hofer from winning, but it became unraveled and I'm sure that he is going to win in re-run.

"First poll predicts Austrian far-right to win election re-run":

https://www.thelocal.at/20160729/far-right-hofer-edges-ahead-in-first-poll-on-election-re-run

It is all the fault of leftists and their unrealistic assumptions about multiculturalism, integration and mass immigration. Already several years ago Merkel openly admitted that integration of immigrants in Germany was a big failure. And then what did she do? She invited even more immigrants from the 3rd World, just to make the failure that she had previously declared even worse.

These are new textbooks of German language, published specially for Muslim "refugees":

^^^ Shouldn't this woman be wearing a hijab and a burka, instead of being naked ???

Why do you say things which can so easily be proven to be incorrect?

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/03/25/rise-euro-right-and-slovakian-neo-nazis-436738.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Socialist_Party

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamyat

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...aded-Polish-Nazis-want-unleash-terror-streets

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/serbia-s-far-rights-travel-to-neo-nazi-gathering

The danger in eastern Europe is not a takeover through the ballot box, but a takeover through violence.

 

[Tomenable]

There he is, the R1b patriarch. He sure didn't get all those wives through sex appeal, I'll tell you.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (at least to some extent), didn't you know ???

For some reason you always assume that everyone has exactly the same taste as you, Angela.

I for example like women with long noses (even though most men prefer short noses, and according to some self-declared "beauty experts" a perfect female nose is a "small button nose" which "doesn't cover more than 5% of her face"; 5.1% is a tragedy).

That particular guy looks very stereotypically Jewish. Some women like Jewish looks.

PS:

Please do not respond with tons of photos of Jews who look differently just to prove me wrong.

I know that Jews have a variety of phenotypes. That was also the case among WHG hunters:

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/32865-WHG-or-EHG-look-alike?p=490657&viewfull=1#post490657

 

[Tomenable]

Donald Trump and his racist tirades

This buzzword again ??? Climate crisis is a racist crisis, math is racist, Islam is a race, what else?:

 

[Tomenable]

What racist things did Donald Trump say? Is his policy of restricting immigration from Mexico considered racist?

Then Germany was racist until 01.05.2011, as before that date there were restrictions for Polish immigration.

Every country has a right to let in whomever they want, and send back whomever they want. This is not racist.

 

[Taranis]

This buzzword again ??? Climate crisis is a racist crisis, math is racist, Islam is a race, what else?:

What racist things did Donald Trump say? Is his policy of restricting immigration from Mexico considered racist?

Then Germany was racist until 01.05.2011, as before that date there were restrictions for Polish immigration.

Every country has a right to let in whomever they want, and send back whomever they want. This is not racist.

Let's make a thought experiment: replace any statement that Donald Trump has made over the past months about 'Latinos' or 'Muslims' with 'Jews', and let's see how well he fares...

 

[Tomenable]

What an utterly stupid argument, playing the "victim card" 75 years (entire 3 generations) after WW2.

It makes no difference whether he says it about Muslims, Jews, Chinese, Swedes, Mayans, or Bushmen.

If he said this about the Yazidis - who are currently being genocided - then it would make a difference.

 

[Angela]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (at least to some extent), didn't you know ???

For some reason you always assume that everyone has exactly the same taste as you, Angela.

I for example like women with long noses (even though most men prefer short noses, and according to some self-declared "beauty experts" a perfect female nose is a "small button nose" which "doesn't cover more than 5% of her face"; 5.1% is a tragedy).

That particular guy looks very stereotypically Jewish. Some women like Jewish looks.

PS:

Please do not respond with tons of photos of Jews who look differently just to prove me wrong.

I know that Jews have a variety of phenotypes. That was also the case among WHG hunters:

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/32865-WHG-or-EHG-look-alike?p=490657&viewfull=1#post490657

Oh, please. You people see Jews or Jewish looking people everywhere you turn. You think everybody with a long nose and a thin face looks Jewish. All of Jeffs' children look like him. Do all of them look Jewish too? I have news for you: there aren't all that many Slavic looking people walking around the streets of U.S. cities, and quite a few have thin faces and long noses. It doesn't mean they're Jewish for goodness sakes'. You really have to get out and do some traveling, Tomenable, in Europe and particularly to the U.S.. It would cure you of a lot of these ideas. Warren Jeffs looks just what he is...100% American WASP. The only thing is he's the scrawny, ugly variety, sort of like the character actor William Schallert. Mitt Romney is the handsome variety.

Or maybe he looks Jewish to you, too? After all, he doesn't look like a Slav, and that nose is a little big.

It's like that loon Sikelliot. Every southern Italian ever born looks Ashkenazi to him. Do some overlap? Yes. The number of resemblances he sees? Absolutely not.

Here are some leaders of the third Reich. They look Jewish to you, too?

Of course beauty comes in all sorts of ethnic varieties. Have I ever denied it? It's you people who only see it in your Aryan ideal. The fact that certain looks don't raise my blood pressure is another issue In no universe is Warren Jeffs attractive, however, much less some sort of he man. Now, if it were, I don't know, a Michael Fassbender type, ok.

 

[Tomenable]

You think everybody with a long nose and a thin face looks Jewish.

No, I also have a long nose + a thin face, but I don't look Jewish.

The one that you posted, looks like a stereotypical Orthodox Jew:

 

[Tomenable]

Here are some leaders of the third Reich. They look Jewish to you, too?

No, but they look like Early Neolithic Farmers to me, a lot of EEF admixture:

 

[Angela]

No, I also have a long nose + a thin face, but I don't look Jewish.

The one that you posted, looks like a stereotypical Orthodox Jew:

I suggest a visit to your optometrist.

Warren Jeffs:

When you're in a hole, it's usually a good idea to stop digging.

 

[Tomenable]

there aren't all that many Slavic looking people walking around the streets of U.S. cities

There is no such thing as a "Slavic look", because Slavs have a much higher genetic diversity than Jews.

We are not all 5th cousins to each other, as are the Ashkenazi Jews (you wrote this in one thread, IIRC).

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By the way:

A Jewess Barbara Spectre said: "Europe needs more genetic diversity". I reply: look at your own people first.

 

[Tomenable]

By the way, I'm very much in favour of Middle Eastern immigration: as long as Non-Muslims are coming.

Muslims can come too, but there should be careful selection of whom we let in and whom we send back.

 

[Angela]

That's it, Tomenable, deflect again when you're boxed in. Just freaking say you're wrong when you're wrong. People have more respect for you when you do.

I think you're confused about Ashkenazi genetics or maybe even genetics in general. Yes, there was a bottleneck and then a large expansion, and so most Ashkenazim are very "related" to one another. However, there's amazing heterogeneity in the Ashkenazi genome because they are descended from the admixture of some very different groups. For goodness sakes', just look at the diversity of yDna lineages compared to Poles. They carry genes from the Middle East, southern Europeans, central Europeans, and Poles. Therefore, there is indeed a lot of variety in terms of appearance.

Eastern Europeans and some northern Europeans are much more homogenous in terms of their genes. They also look more similar to one another.

"Our data also revealed, in agreement with previous studies, close similarity between unrelated Ashkenazi individuals. Contrary to popular belief, this similarity does persist throughout the entire DNA sequence, as expected in populations that practice consanguinity. In fact, on a genome-wide level, the Ashkenazi genome is more heterogeneous than a typical European genome. However, about 5 or 10 times per genome, a pair of Ashkenazi individuals have an almost completely identical genetic material spanning an exceptionally long sequence (say, over three million letters). In populations of European origins, such an amount of genetic similarity would correspond to fifth-generation cousins. In the Ashkenazi population, these stretches of identical sequence are due to an extremely small population size in the recent history, which is known in genetics as a founder event. Thus, two Ashkenazi individuals with no known common ancestors in the past few generations may nevertheless descend from the same founder. Mathematical modeling has shown that the founder population was indeed small, at only ≈300-400 individuals (this is a so-called “effective population size”, which may be smaller than the actual number of founders), and lived ≈25-30 generations ago (≈700 years ago)."

https://scarmilab.org/tagc/

 

[elghund]

Elfghund, I think your sense of humor went missing this morning. Braided hair, dresses below the knee, cowed, obedient people, how could anyone not see the parallels? It's all about mind control, people behaving like sheep, and yes, indeed, it takes place in the Muslim world as well. Who could deny it? Certainly not me. Are you happy now? Oh, it was good except for the "scrawny" part. That's a "big" guy as we say euphemistically in the U.S., and he probably looks more like an eagle.

In the West, the sheik might be considered brawny; but for the Saudis, he's still a bit scrawny. His beak, by the way, is too big for an eagle's.

Anyways, there's more than one type of enclave in Germany these days. Whose enclave threatens Germany more?

S*NN*S
You want to buy a vowel?

 

[Tomenable]

For goodness sakes', just look at the diversity of yDna lineages compared to Poles. (...) Eastern Europeans and some northern Europeans are much more homogenous in terms of their genes.

Most of Western Europe is more homogeneous in terms of yDNA lineages compared to Eastern Europe.

And Poles are very far from being the most homogeneous pop. in Europe in terms of yDNA lineages.

Also, Angela, since when do you ascribe so much importance to Y-DNA?

You used to underline that autosomes and mtDNA are more important.

"Our data also revealed, in agreement with previous studies, close similarity between unrelated Ashkenazi individuals. Contrary to popular belief, this similarity does persist throughout the entire DNA sequence, as expected in populations that practice consanguinity. In fact, on a genome-wide level, the Ashkenazi genome is more heterogeneous than a typical European genome. However, about 5 or 10 times per genome, a pair of Ashkenazi individuals have an almost completely identical genetic material spanning an exceptionally long sequence (say, over three million letters). In populations of European origins, such an amount of genetic similarity would correspond to fifth-generation cousins. In the Ashkenazi population, these stretches of identical sequence are due to an extremely small population size in the recent history, which is known in genetics as a founder event. Thus, two Ashkenazi individuals with no known common ancestors in the past few generations may nevertheless descend from the same founder. Mathematical modeling has shown that the founder population was indeed small, at only ≈300-400 individuals (this is a so-called “effective population size”, which may be smaller than the actual number of founders), and lived ≈25-30 generations ago (≈700 years ago)."

https://scarmilab.org/tagc/

OK, thanks for this info.

So they are a recently bottlenecked, but still relatively diverse population. It makes sense.

Just freaking say you're wrong when you're wrong.

But wrong about what exactly?

they are descended from the admixture of some very different groups.

So are Europeans in general.

But those groups mixed so thoroughly that a population descended from their fusion became homogenized.

All Europeans descent from the same ancestral groups. So we are homogeneous now, but of diverse origins.

BTW, you were right that HG ancestry in Eastern Europeans is not just EHG and CHG, but also actual WHG.

I know where this WHG admixture came from, but I can't say because it has not yet been officially published.

 

[Angela]

Most of Western Europe is more homogeneous in terms of yDNA lineages compared to Eastern Europe.

And Poles are very far from being the most homogeneous pop. in Europe in terms of yDNA lineages.

Also, Angela, since when do you ascribe so much importance to Y-DNA?

You used to underline that autosomes and mtDNA are more important.



OK, thanks for this info.

So they are a recently bottlenecked, but still relatively diverse population. It makes sense.



But wrong about what exactly?



So are Europeans in general.

But those groups mixed so thoroughly that a population descended from their fusion became homogenized.

All Europeans descent from the same ancestral groups. So we are homogeneous now, but of diverse origins.

BTW, you were right that HG ancestry in Eastern Europeans is not just EHG and CHG, but also actual WHG.

I know where this WHG admixture came from, but I can't say because it has not yet been officially published.

By all means focus on a throw away sentence about yDna (which your response did not rebut, btw) instead of the major point, which proves that YOU WERE WRONG. Ashkenazim have a much more heterogeneous genome than do Poles or eastern Europeans in general. They have more variation in terms of "appearance". The genomes of all Europeans are not equally homogeneous. Southern Europeans are more heterogeneous than northern Europeans and certainly than Slavs. They also have more variation in "appearance". WARREN JEFFS LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THAT ORTHODOX JEW. He looks like an inbred denizen of the Tennessee hollows. Just open your eyes and look at his nose for goodness sakes', if nothing else. Nor do most Jews look like that. It seems like you're getting your pictures and point of view from Julius Streicher.

Could you guys be any more childish with your hints about your inside info on this? Still hacking sites, or did they find some fellow traveler in one of the labs? I'm sure it will shock you, but not everyone is breathlessly waiting to read about some reservoir of WHG. I posited it existed more than two years ago and that the steppe people picked up their genes in their move into central Europe. I also proposed maybe they were even R1b. For most of the world, including me, this is only of academic interest. We get our real validation from something other than our favorite among some ancient population group from almost 6000 years ago.