HarappaWorld Gedmatch, post and compare your admixtures to ancient and contemporary.

LeBrok · Sep 25, 2016

HarappaWord admixtures. Use Gedmatch calculator:
https://www.gedmatch.com
First upload your genome data file to Gedmatch, if you there for the first time.
Go to Analyze Your Data, then click on Admixture (heritage), then select HarappaWorld, continue, type your Kit Number in the window, and continue. In about 15 seconds you should see your results.

Latest results for Europe and Ancient samples.

Europeans	# of samples	S-Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Siberian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	San	E-African	Pygmy	W-African
Norway	7	0	9	4	56	0	3	0	0	1	1	25	0	0	0	0	0
Sweden	11	0	8	5	56	0	0	0	0	0	0	28	1	0	0	0	0
Ireland	2	0	12	4	50	0	0	0	0	0	0	33	0	0	0	0	0
Scotland	4	0	10	6	51	0	0	0	0	0	1	31	0	0	0	0	0
Wales	3	0	10	6	50	0	0	0	0	1	0	32	0	0	0	0	0
England	7	0	10	7	50	0	0	0	0	0	0	32	0	0	0	0	0
Holland-North	4	0	10	6	54	0	0	0	0	0	0	29	0	0	0	0	0
Germany, North	8	0	9	8	53	0	0	0	0	1	0	27	1	0	0	0	0
Germany, South	2	0	9	12	43	0	0	0	0	0	0	31	3	0	0	0	0
Switzerland-French	3	0	8	15	41	0	0	0	0	0	0	31	4	0	0	0	0
French	Harappa	0	9	10	42	0	0	0	0	0	0	36	2	0	0	0	0
South France	hrvclv	0	7	12	39	0	0	0	0	0	0	37	4	0	0	0	0
Portugal	7	0	5	13	31	0	0	0	0	0	0	37	8	0	1	0	1
Spain	Harappa	1	6	10	31	0	0	0	0	0	0	45	5	0	1	0	0
Basque	4	1	6	1	33	0	0	0	0	0	0	58	1	0	0	0	0
Italy, NE	7	0	7	20	34	0	0	0	0	0	0	31	6	0	0	0	0
Italy, NW	5	0	6	20	33	0	0	0	0	0	0	34	6	0	0	0	0
Italy, Tuscany	4	0	7	25	28	0	0	0	0	0	0	32	8	0	0	0	0
Italy, South	5	0	8	32	17	0	0	0	0	0	0	27	13	0	1	0	0
Sicily	5	0	9	32	18	0	0	0	0	0	0	27	12	0	1	0	0
Malta	7	0	7	33	15	0	0	0	0	0	0	26	14	0	1	0	1
Sardinia	5	0	0	24	16	0	0	0	1	0	0	49	10	0	0	0	0
Europeans	# of samples	S-Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Siberian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	San	E-African	Pygmy	W-African
Saami	4	1	3	0	59	1	18	3	1	2	4	5	0	0	0	0	3
Finland	6	1	4	3	71	0	6	1	0	0	1	11	3	0	0	0	0
Latvia	5	1	7	7	65	0	1	0	0	0	0	19	0	0	0	0	0
Lithuania	5	1	8	7	62	0	0	0	1	0	1	20	1	0	0	0	0
Russia	Harappa	1	4	13	64	0	3	0	0	1	1	13	0	0	0	0	0
Belorussia	Harappa	1	5	10	64	1	1	0	0	0	0	16	1	0	0	0	0
Ukraine	Harappa	1	6	12	58	0	1	0	0	0	0	17	2	0	0	0	0
Poland	3	0	8	11	56	1	1	0	0	0	0	22	2	0	0	0	0
Czechy	3	1	9	9	52	0	0	0	0	1	0	26	2	0	0	0	0
Slovenia	3	0	7	15	50	0	1	0	0	0	0	24	3	0	0	0	0
Croatia	8	0	7	17	45	0	1	0	0	0	0	24	4	0	0	0	0
Bosnia	2	0	9	21	41	0	1	0	0	1	0	23	5	0	0	0	0
Serbia	1	0	8	20	40	0	1	0	0	1	0	27	4	0	0	0	0
Austria	2	0	7	15	43	1	0	0	0	0	0	30	4	0	0	0	0
Hungary	3	0	9	15	47	0	1	0	0	1	0	25	2	0	0	0	0
Romania	5	0	8	23	35	1	1	0	0	0	0	25	6	0	0	0	0
Bulgaria	5	0	9	25	34	0	0	0	0	0	0	24	7	0	0	0	0
Macedonia	selectivememri	0	6	25	35	0	1	0	0	0	1	25	7	0	0	0	0
Albania	17	0	6	28	29	0	0	0	0	0	0	27	8	0	0	0	0
Albania, Tosk	7	0	7	30	25	0	0	0	0	0	0	27	9	0	0	0	0
Greece, Mainland	5	0	7	30	26	0	0	0	0	0	0	26	9	0	0	0	0
Greece, Ionian	2	0	9	34	18	0	0	0	0	0	0	26	12	0	0	0	0
Greek, Islands, East	13	0	9	38	15	0	0	0	0	0	0	23	14	0	0	0	0
Crete	5	0	8	39	15	0	0	1	0	0	0	21	14	0	0	0	0
Cyprus	4	1	10	44	6	1	0	0	0	0	0	20	17	0	0	0	0
Europeans	# of samples	S-Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Siberian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	San	E-African	Pygmy	W-African
Ashkenazi	11	0	7	33	16	0	0	0	0	0	0	25	15	0	1	0	0
Sephardi, Tunisia	6	1	7	33	8	0	0	0	0	0	0	24	22	0	3	0	1
Turkey	4	1	15	44	11	0	4	3	0	0	1	11	9	0	0	0	0
Armenia	7	1	20	52	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	10	13	0	0	0	0
Georgia	6	0	21	58	7	0	1	0	0	0	0	5	6	0	0	0	0
Lebanon	7	0	11	45	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	15	24	0	1	0	0
Samaritans	3	0	7	45	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	15	31	0	2	0	0
Palestine	Harappa	1	7	39	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	12	31	0	5	0	2
Iran	Harappa	4	27	40	5	1	2	1	1	0	1	5	13	0	0	0	0
Europeans	# of samples	S-Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Siberian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	San	E-African	Pygmy	W-African
Ancient samples
WHG					78				1			21
SHG					90				1	2	1	7
EHG			14		76					10
CHG		1	34	51	6	1	1										6
Iran Neolithic		6	63	25									4				2
Levant BA			4	37		1						12	45
Yamnaya			33	7	56					2	1						1
Armenia BA			23	39	19		1		1	1	1	9	5				2
Anatolia LN			9	48	6							27	9
Hungary LN				19	17							56	8
Hungary BA			3	15	46							32	3
Italy BA				11	21	1						61	5				1
Spain MN				19	11							58	12
Spain LN				4	24							63	5				3
Unetice BA			16	6	58					1		19
Ireland BA		1	13	2	53		1			1		27					2
BellBeaker			11	2	54							32
Hungary IA			15	15	44		3			2		21
Sarmatian, IA			25	6	51		4			2	1	11
England IA			11	6	50						1	31					1
Sweden IA			10		61					1		28					1
Andronovo, BA		1	21	3	56		2			1	1	14					1
Greece LN			0	35	4	1						44	13				3
Minoan, average				47	1							39	13
Mycenaean, average		3	39	13							36	9

Here are the source/ancient best matching populations of Harappa admixtures:

Admixtures	Iranian Neolithic 10,000 Years Ago	CHG 13KYA	Natufian 13 KYA	EHG Samara 7.5 KYA	Anatolian EF 8 KYA	WHG Hungary K01 7.5 KYA	EEF Stuttgart 7.5 KYA	Yamnaya Rise 522 4.5 KYA	Notes
S-Indian	6.13	0.62
Baloch	62.71	36.63		14.33				33.24	Ancient Central Asian, high in Early Iranian Farmer, also present in Steppe
Caucasian	24.97	54.15	13.98		37.64		30.6	6.58	CHG mostly
NE-Euro		3.84		71.08	0.86	82.06	7.82	56.02	EHG, mostly WHG/ANE
SE-Asian		0.59
Siberian		0.77
NE-Asian
Papuan	0.35		0.68			0.2
American				6.89				2.46
Beringian				1.7				0.75
Mediterranean			27.39		47.24	17.44	49.46		Anatolian EF and WHG mix
SW-Asian	3.88		53.62		14.00		12.01		Mostly Natufian
San	0.18						0.11
E-African			4.33
Pygmy		0.25
W-African	1.78	3.01		0.13	0.27	0.26		0.98

Some observation:
Baloch is maxed out in Iranian Neolithic population, and 1/3 in CHG. Interestingly it exists also in EHG. In EHG it didn't come from INF or CHG because EHG lacks Caucasian admixture. It must be ancient?
Caucasian is highest in Caucasian Hunter Gatherer, and spills over to Natufians and Iranian Early Farmers. But it didn't spill over Caucasus mountain to European Hunter Gatherer. This is rather surprising.
Caucasian admixture is seen first time on other side of Caucasus in Yamnaya sample. Proportions of Baloch and Caucasian in Yamnaya point of its mediation from Iranian Farmers and not from CHG.
South West Asian admixture is highest in Natufian, which is almost not found in CHG or Iranian farmer. This admixture can easily identify Natufian genes.
Mediterranean admixture is highest in Anatolia. It also in part Natufian and in part WHG as we can see it in Hungarian Hunter gatherer at almost 20% level.

Here are the links to ancient samples with Kit Numbers:
http://www.y-str.org/p/ancient-dna.html
http://forum.molgen.org/index.php?topic=8462.0
http://www.anthrogenica.com/archive/index.php/t-6947.html

Here is something very interesting, genomes of Kostenki and Mal'ta boy which are very connected to ancient populations of this region:

Admixtures	Kostenki Black Sea 36 KYA	Mal'ta boy Siberia 24 KYA	Notes
S-Indian	13.18	10.13
Baloch	12.49	24.09	Early Iranian Farmer admixture mostly
Caucasian	0.00	0.00	CHG mostly
NE-Euro	29.02	40.14	EHG, SHG and most of WHG/ANE
SE-Asian	4.28
Siberian	1.75
NE-Asian
Papuan	5.16	0.7
American	3.32	17.71
Beringian	1.43	6.74
Mediterranean	18.76	0.00	Anatolian EF and WHG mix
SW-Asian	5.89	0.00	Mostly Natufian, high in semitic countries
San	1.24	0.3
E-African	1.82
Pygmy	0.92	0.19
W-African	0.73

Mal'ta contains only Baloch and NE Euro. Pretty much what was present in EHG, and likewise they miss Mediterranean and SW-Asian.
Kostenki lived north of Black Sea area though much earlier. It contains all the admixtures, even in relation to Natufians, but it is missing Caucasian admixture, same as Mal'ta boy. It seems that Caucasian admixture was a late arrival to the area. These two have even the connection to S-Indian but not to Caucasian!? Where did Caucasian come from? Perhaps it is a young admixture of secluded HGs in Caucasus mountains, separated from Baloch group.

Ethnicity	Dataset	N	C1	C2	C3	C4	C5	C6	C7	C8	C9	C10	C11	C12	C13	C14	C15	C16
			S Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE Euro	SE Asian	Siberian	NE Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW Asian	San	E African	Pygmy	W African
basque	hgdp	24	0%	8%	1%	33%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	58%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%
belorussian	behar	9	1%	5%	10%	64%	1%	1%	0%	0%	0%	0%	16%	1%	0%	0%	0%	0%
bulgarian	yunusbayev	13	0%	5%	28%	36%	0%	1%	0%	0%	0%	1%	23%	5%	0%	0%	0%	0%
cypriot	behar	12	0%	7%	49%	6%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	19%	17%	0%	0%	0%	0%
finnish	1000genomes	100	1%	1%	2%	80%	0%	6%	0%	0%	0%	1%	5%	5%	0%	0%	0%	0%
french	hgdp	28	0%	9%	10%	42%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	36%	2%	0%	0%	0%	0%
hungarian	behar	19	0%	7%	15%	49%	0%	1%	0%	0%	0%	0%	24%	3%	0%	0%	0%	0%
italian	hgdp	13	0%	5%	22%	29%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	37%	6%	0%	0%	0%	0%
lithuanian	behar	10	0%	7%	5%	72%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	15%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%
romanian-a	behar	14	1%	6%	26%	36%	0%	1%	0%	0%	0%	0%	23%	5%	0%	0%	0%	0%
russian	behar	2	1%	4%	13%	64%	1%	3%	0%	1%	1%	1%	13%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%
sardinian	hgdp	28	0%	0%	20%	12%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	60%	7%	0%	0%	0%	0%
serbian	harappa	1	0%	8%	23%	42%	1%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	22%	3%	0%	0%	0%	0%
slovenian	xing	25	1%	6%	15%	51%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	23%	3%	0%	0%	0%	0%
spaniard	behar	12	0%	7%	11%	32%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	44%	5%	0%	0%	0%	0%
turk-istanbul	hodoglugil	20	1%	16%	45%	11%	1%	3%	3%	0%	0%	1%	11%	9%	0%	0%	0%	0%
tuscan	1000genomes	11	0%	6%	29%	24%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	32%	8%	0%	0%	0%	0%
ukranian	yunusbayev	20	1%	6%	12%	58%	0%	1%	0%	0%	0%	0%	17%	2%	0%	0%	0%	0%

Population	S-Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Siberian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	San	E-African	Pygmy	W-African
algeria	0.46	2.32	2.82	0.53	0.32	0.36	0.14	0.25	0.19	0.58	38.88	30.20	0.46	10.30	0.34	11.83
assyrian	0.24	19.37	51.67	1.19	0.05	0.09	0.37	0.42	0.15	0.26	8.17	17.89	0.02	0.04	0.00	0.07
egypt	1.02	2.55	28.48	0.76	0.14	0.26	0.10	0.42	0.23	0.25	16.60	32.75	0.08	11.30	0.54	4.53
egyptian	0.26	3.06	30.48	0.36	0.27	0.14	0.11	0.35	0.19	0.29	12.84	33.11	0.26	12.42	0.15	5.69
iraqi-arab	3.80	18.72	37.81	2.05	0.18	0.92	0.97	0.77	0.17	0.76	8.03	21.89	0.48	2.33	0.57	0.56
iraqi-mandaean	0.84	20.18	47.80	0.00	0.06	0.00	0.00	0.18	0.59	0.60	7.08	22.21	0.00	0.45	0.00	0.00
jordanian	0.59	9.43	38.85	1.22	0.24	0.22	0.50	0.31	0.21	0.43	11.89	28.28	0.15	5.05	0.27	2.36
lebanese	0.54	10.84	41.42	2.87	0.61	0.58	0.61	0.33	0.24	0.21	13.09	23.47	0.19	3.35	0.14	1.49
lebanese-christian	0.36	9.86	49.26	0.10	0.34	0.45	0.32	1.06	0.50	0.72	11.66	22.86	0.66	1.63	0.23	0.00
lebanese-druze	0.76	10.65	49.86	0.35	0.44	0.46	0.20	1.27	0.47	1.07	10.58	20.74	0.54	1.93	0.51	0.17
lebanese-muslim	0.95	10.98	45.29	1.55	0.35	0.98	0.44	1.08	0.65	1.11	10.71	20.83	0.66	3.16	0.60	0.67
libya	0.45	1.09	10.75	0.81	0.37	0.36	0.22	0.27	0.36	0.47	26.54	38.71	0.10	10.73	0.36	8.40
moroccan	0.90	0.30	3.71	0.58	0.07	0.20	0.08	0.21	0.19	0.05	35.13	32.21	0.00	10.61	0.02	15.75
morocco-n	0.70	1.15	1.69	1.13	0.34	0.37	0.10	0.51	0.25	0.49	46.28	28.24	0.29	10.20	0.05	8.20
morocco-s	0.31	0.00	0.05	0.06	0.18	0.32	0.04	0.28	0.04	0.17	36.35	23.01	0.26	12.53	0.40	25.99
mozabite	0.39	0.32	0.56	0.54	0.08	0.61	0.03	0.10	0.03	0.26	39.57	33.74	0.01	10.07	0.00	13.67
palestinian	0.88	7.40	39.30	1.03	0.26	0.14	0.10	0.35	0.19	0.17	11.81	31.00	0.23	4.70	0.19	2.26
saudi	0.86	4.89	26.18	1.16	0.16	0.16	0.16	0.22	0.30	0.16	3.39	57.74	0.31	3.03	0.34	0.93
syrian	1.74	12.18	41.07	2.97	0.28	0.46	0.21	0.22	0.19	0.43	10.07	25.36	0.19	2.64	0.26	1.73
yemenese	2.44	7.85	26.76	0.93	0.46	0.24	0.21	0.43	0.28	0.55	5.40	35.59	0.33	8.24	1.44	8.85
ashkenazi	0.87	5.36	33.87	19.33	0.48	0.49	0.63	0.16	0.19	0.25	24.00	13.60	0.14	0.46	0.15	0.03
ashkenazy-jew	0.69	6.61	34.46	15.63	0.38	0.71	0.40	0.38	0.28	0.28	24.14	14.88	0.16	0.88	0.07	0.07
azerbaijan-jew	0.90	17.34	53.58	1.42	0.30	0.43	0.00	0.19	0.40	0.28	8.01	17.02	0.04	0.08	0.03	0.00
bene-israel-jew	34.93	26.16	21.28	1.09	0.24	0.48	0.32	0.81	0.24	0.83	4.67	8.08	0.11	0.49	0.12	0.16
ethiopian-jew	0.05	0.03	6.46	0.00	0.12	0.10	0.04	0.26	0.08	0.12	4.10	35.35	2.69	50.04	0.48	0.10
georgia-jew	0.34	15.80	52.14	2.36	0.51	0.12	0.04	0.12	0.42	0.30	7.96	19.42	0.00	0.46	0.00	0.00
iranian-jew	0.47	18.93	49.60	0.00	0.50	0.20	0.33	0.15	0.19	0.22	7.06	21.97	0.04	0.26	0.07	0.00
iraq-jew	0.54	17.27	48.77	0.15	0.30	0.00	0.00	0.36	0.13	0.05	8.65	23.57	0.02	0.17	0.02	0.00
morocco-jew	0.86	6.36	32.76	8.33	0.16	0.04	0.06	0.13	0.10	0.15	27.54	20.00	0.22	1.96	0.06	1.26
sephardic-jew	0.79	6.61	36.38	9.22	0.18	0.33	0.09	0.28	0.10	0.15	25.60	18.42	0.10	1.07	0.19	0.49
uzbekistan-jew	1.44	20.59	46.03	3.99	0.22	0.42	0.16	0.70	0.29	0.25	7.41	18.31	0.00	0.19	0.00	0.00
yemen-jew	0.78	1.53	35.81	0.03	0.15	0.07	0.00	0.27	0.14	0.12	5.87	50.72	0.17	4.34	0.03	0.00

Population	S-Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Siberian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	San	E-African	Pygmy	W-African
abhkasian	0.33	18.49	69.15	7.62	0.40	0.83	0.42	0.26	0.30	0.71	0.67	0.71	0.02	0.02	0.01	0.07
adygei	0.53	18.38	56.60	16.37	0.58	3.10	1.01	0.30	0.53	0.67	1.70	0.23	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00
armenian	0.41	17.07	57.29	5.35	0.10	0.29	0.16	0.26	0.22	0.23	8.21	10.40	0.00	0.01	0.00	0.00
armenian	2.12	18.25	46.35	3.32	0.13	0.72	0.92	1.63	0.07	0.62	10.29	14.55	0.57	0.35	0.11	0.00
armenian	0.52	17.65	56.61	2.95	0.13	0.09	0.09	0.27	0.18	0.20	8.40	12.91	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00
azeri	3.03	19.73	45.69	7.84	0.04	3.83	1.41	0.29	0.27	1.36	6.36	9.50	0.12	0.13	0.21	0.17
chechen	0.15	22.44	51.00	20.05	0.40	1.89	0.62	0.30	0.91	0.70	0.87	0.67	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00
georgian	0.29	17.46	71.97	6.38	0.12	0.33	0.23	0.32	0.24	0.37	1.10	1.16	0.02	0.00	0.00	0.00
georgian	0.05	19.93	62.40	6.08	0.40	0.26	0.79	0.55	0.18	0.86	1.83	6.38	0.22	0.06	0.00	0.00
iranian	3.93	27.42	38.80	4.14	0.47	0.95	0.52	0.39	0.34	0.48	4.98	15.08	0.14	0.81	0.30	1.26
iranian	3.69	27.14	40.66	5.33	0.54	1.80	1.49	0.65	0.39	1.11	5.17	11.35	0.21	0.30	0.14	0.03
kumyk	0.38	21.20	47.50	16.16	0.57	3.73	2.85	0.36	0.67	0.61	2.82	3.12	0.00	0.00	0.03	0.00
kurd	3.01	25.64	41.13	4.69	0.43	1.29	0.58	0.81	0.62	0.87	6.38	13.37	0.38	0.55	0.24	0.00
kurd	0.75	27.90	44.12	4.87	0.30	0.57	0.28	0.39	0.75	0.51	4.86	13.94	0.12	0.32	0.13	0.19
kurd	1.56	26.52	45.34	5.55	0.32	0.49	0.58	0.38	0.38	0.19	5.67	12.81	0.09	0.05	0.07	0.00
lezgin	0.02	28.15	46.69	20.10	0.14	1.05	0.32	0.14	0.92	0.84	0.74	0.88	0.02	0.01	0.00	0.00
stalskoe	0.07	23.71	40.73	20.55	1.65	2.76	0.81	0.59	1.56	1.34	3.97	1.55	0.20	0.07	0.24	0.21
urkarah	0.27	27.90	43.17	24.08	0.45	1.05	0.00	0.39	1.10	0.90	0.11	0.29	0.06	0.06	0.12	0.05
north-ossetian	0.28	19.35	45.41	13.79	0.97	5.35	3.10	1.41	1.32	0.57	4.12	3.08	0.51	0.00	0.75	0.00
north-ossetian	0.10	18.43	56.38	14.71	0.27	3.91	2.92	0.39	0.55	1.14	1.08	0.10	0.01	0.01	0.00	0.00

Maximums in modern populations:

Ethnicity	Dataset		S Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE Euro	SE Asian	Siberian	NE Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW Asian	San	E African	Pygmy	W African
paniya	chaubey	3	84%	0%	3%	0%	4%	2%	2%	4%	1%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%
brahui	hgdp	25	12%	58%	12%	2%	1%	0%	0%	1%	0%	0%	2%	10%	0%	1%	0%	1%
georgian	behar	20	0%	17%	72%	6%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	1%	1%	0%	0%	0%	0%
finnish	1000genomes	100	1%	1%	2%	80%	0%	6%	0%	0%	0%	1%	5%	5%	0%	0%	0%	0%
iban	xing	25	5%	0%	0%	0%	87%	4%	0%	2%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%
nganassan	rasmussen	12	0%	1%	1%	3%	0%	89%	1%	0%	0%	4%	1%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%
japanese	1000genomes	7	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	1%	99%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%
papuan	hgdp	17	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	100%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%
colombian	hgdp	7	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	100%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%
chukchi	rasmussen	15	0%	0%	1%	5%	0%	12%	0%	0%	1%	80%	1%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%
sardinian	hgdp	28	0%	0%	20%	12%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	60%	7%	0%	0%	0%	0%
saudi	behar	20	1%	5%	26%	1%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	3%	58%	0%	3%	0%	1%
san	hgdp	6	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	100%	0%	0%	0%
gumuz	pagani	18	0%	0%	0%	0%	1%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	2%	1%	93%	3%	0%
mbutipygmy	hgdp	13	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	100%	0%
yoruba	1000genomes	5	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	100%

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l87nGSIYTP-h7m-VKjB-BZcuEoWdz765nU4f_krOdd4/edit#gid=0

Goga · Sep 25, 2016

LeBrok said:
Interesting Iran_Recent had elevated NE Euro and more Caucasian. Can you run Neolithic Iranian through this calculator?

Nothing special. In general Kurds from Northern Kurdistan (Turkish occupied) score also more 'Caucasian' and 'NE Euro' than me or Kurds from South East Kurdistan (Iran) in general.

Native Caucasian speakers (like Adygeans) have also more 'Caucasian' and 'NE Euro' than Iranians.

So, Iran_Recent is more shifted toward Caucasus, while Southern Kurds / modern Iranians are slightly more shifted toward the Iranian Plateau.

Tomenable · Sep 25, 2016

LeBrok said:
Interesting Iran_Recent had elevated NE Euro and more Caucasian. Can you run Neolithic Iranian through this calculator?

I couldn't find that Neolithic Iranian on GEDmatch, but I found the Chalcolithic one (kit number M124870):

HarappaWorld:

Admixture:	Zoran:	Arya:	Goga:	Irn1400s:	IrnCopperAge	IrnNeolithic
Caucasian	40,79	40,88	40,84	45,47	49,91	?
Baloch	27,95	29,33	27,86	26,89	37,82	?
SW-Asian	13,29	14,96	13,9	13,13	10,88	?
NE-Euro	4,3	4,75	3,92	7,27	-	?
Mediterranean	8,05	4,17	8,27	4,87	-	?
S-Indian	2,99	3,71	2,23	1,23	1,05	?
Siberian	0,96	0,22	1,08	0,65	-	?
W-African	-	-	-	0,2	0,33	?
SE-Asian	-	0,27	0,57	0,18	-	?
Beringian	-	0,26	-	0,12	-	?
NE-Asian	-	0,39	-	-	-	?
Papuan	0,28	0,92	0,36	-	-	?
American	0,67	-	0,98	-	-	?
San	0,63	-	-	-	-	?
E-African	0,07	0,14	-	-	-	?
Pygmy	-	-	-	-	-	?

LeBrok · Sep 25, 2016

Tomenable said:
I couldn't find that Neolithic Iranian on GEDmatch, but I found the Chalcolithic one (kit number M124870):

HarappaWorld:

Admixture: Zoran: Arya: Goga: Irn1400s: IrnCopperAge IrnNeolithic
Caucasian 40,79 40,88 40,84 45,47 49,91 ?
Baloch 27,95 29,33 27,86 26,89 37,82 ?
SW-Asian 13,29 14,96 13,9 13,13 10,88 ?
NE-Euro 4,3 4,75 3,92 7,27 - ?
Mediterranean 8,05 4,17 8,27 4,87 - ?
S-Indian 2,99 3,71 2,23 1,23 1,05 ?
Siberian 0,96 0,22 1,08 0,65 - ?
W-African - - - 0,2 0,33 ?
SE-Asian - 0,27 0,57 0,18 - ?
Beringian - 0,26 - 0,12 - ?
NE-Asian - 0,39 - - - ?
Papuan 0,28 0,92 0,36 - - ?
American 0,67 - 0,98 - - ?
San 0,63 - - - - ?
E-African 0,07 0,14 - - - ?
Pygmy - - - - - ?

Wow, now it is getting interesting. Copper Age guy has fewer admixtures. He/she is of much "purer" origin. Mainly two sources, Caucasus and Baloch. Is Baloch same as Gedrosia?
Could it be run by something showing Yamnaya/Afansievo or Step admixtures?

NE Euro and Mediterranean is missing completely. When did it come to The middle East? Greek/Roman/Anatolian/Turkic conquests?
Half of Mediterranean admixture in this run could contain Semitic/Arabic admixture, and some in SW Asian I suppose.

It'd be interesting to check other guys from the area to see what was native and what came with Steppe invasion of IEs, or source of Gedrosia. Even to check if Steppe theory holds water.
Mesolithic guys from Iran, Caucasus and Yamnaya. Whoever they have in this calculator, please.

Angela · Sep 25, 2016

He already had almost 11% SW Asian, and modern people have only 13-15%.

It's the North East European and Mediterranean that he's missing. The North East European could have come with steppe people in the Bronze or even the Iron Age, and so could the little bit of Mediterranean as well perhaps. The Srubnaya, Andronovo type people were, what, 40% Middle Neolithic as well as EHG?

LeBrok · Sep 25, 2016

Angela said:
He already had almost 11% SW Asian, and modern people have only 13-15%.

It's the North East European and Mediterranean that he's missing. The North East European could have come with steppe people in the Bronze or even the Iron Age, and so could the little bit of Mediterranean as well perhaps. The Srubnaya, Andronovo type people were, what, 40% Middle Neolithic as well as EHG?

Good point angela NE European could have been connected to the Steppe admixture. In this case this copper age Iranian could have been Iranian Neolithic Farmer like before Steppe invasion.

Tomenable · Sep 25, 2016

I share 701 matching segments with RISE150 and 921 with BR2.

Numbers such as 701 - 921 matching segments seem to be a lot.

I made a similar comparison with ancient and modern Iranians:

Kit T637158 (Medieval Iranian) shares 758 segments with a modern Iranian.

Kit M124870 (Copper Age Iranian) shares 597 segments with a modern Iranian.

Finally, T637158 and M124870 share 380 matching segments with each other.

Criteria of comparison were the same in each case:

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 25 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM

Goga · Sep 26, 2016

Goga said:
It seems that there was a some kind of a migration from the Balkans into the western parts of the Iranian Plateau, and Aryans (West Iranian like the Medes and Persians) mixed a little bit with those people. Maybe from the Indo-European West Anatolians like the Hittites and Phrygia or something???

Y-DNA hg. I2a and E-V13 are not native to Iranian/Aryans otherwise there would be some Y-DNA hg. I2a and E-V13 in BMAC and SouthCentral Asia or even in India.

Has to be either from the Lydians who lived on the western side of the Aryan Medes or has to be from the East Iranized Scythians who lived just north of the first Aryan mighty Median Empire. Or both, from Lydians AND Scythians. Althought we have DNA of Alano-Sarmatians, but they were not I2a & E-V13, BUT J1, J2, G2a, R1a-Z93 which are very common among the modern day Aryan people (Kurds & Persians) of the western Iranian Plateau

http://ancientworldlibrary.com/through-the-land-of-the-medes-april-3-5-2016

Tomenable · Sep 26, 2016

LeBrok, you have a lot of Hindu Kush as well, and your wife too.

Interesting, where did it come from? Why do we have so much?

How did Hindu Kush got to Poland? With Gypsies?

Check how much of "South India" do you have in HarappaWorld.

Someone with Gypsy ancestry should score a lot of South India.

On the other hand, "Hindu Kush" is more similar to "Baloch".

My results:

LeBrok · Sep 26, 2016

Tomenable said:
LeBrok, you have a lot of Hindu Kush as well, and your wife too.

Interesting, where did it come from? Why do we have so much?

Check how much of "South India" do you have in HarappaWorld.

Someone with Gypsy ancestry should score a lot of South India.

On the other hand, "Hindu Kush" is more similar to "Baloch".

My results:

Population
S-Indian	0.62
Baloch	7.47
Caucasian	10.05
NE-Euro	57.28
SE-Asian	0.54
Siberian	1.22
NE-Asian	0.35
Papuan	-
American	-
Beringian	0.07
Mediterranean	21.53
SW-Asian	0.86
San	-
E-African	-
Pygmy	-
W-African	-

Nothing extraordinary here, though I have bunch of many small admixtures. Some of my far ancestors have been around, lol.

Tomenable · Sep 26, 2016

This 0,62 South Indian is not enough for Gypsy ancestors. At least not anything recent.

Gypsies most probably have some "Hindu Kush", but they have even more of S-Indian.

It is too elevated to be explained with few Gypsies in Poland

Maybe it is from Armenians in Poland ???

You are from southern regions (Cracow and Galicia, right?) so maybe "Hindu Kush" is higher there.

Surprisingly, for a guy who loves HGs, your Farmer/Near Eastern is the highest, Tomenable.

Maybe that's why I love HGs, lol.

The "average" group of Poles was really high on WHG and Steppe and low on Farmer. I wonder what region they were from?

Perhaps from North-Eastern Poland? It is Davidski's calculator, so he probably chose the sample.

LeBrok · Sep 26, 2016

How do you check who from ancient samples they have in Gedmatch calculator? I would like to see Yamnaya folks, Afansievo, and Samara HGs in K15.

Goga · Sep 26, 2016

Tomenable said:
Maybe it is from Armenians in Poland ???

You are from southern regions (Cracow and Galicia, right?) so maybe "Hindu Kush" is higher there.

Armenians are also receivers and not donors of this component. Armenians don't have as much of the so called 'Gedrosia' "Hindu Kush" component as Iranians and native people of the Iranian Plateau.

from Dodecad K12b results Armenians score between 15 - 178 % of Gedrosian.

My Dodecad K12b results :

#	Population	Percent
1	Caucasus	37.76
2	Gedrosia	28.04
3	Southwest_Asian	14.71
4	Atlantic_Med	8.76
5	North_European	4.87
6	South_Asian	2.69
7	Northwest_African	1.76
8	Siberian	0.88
9	Southeast_Asian	0.32
10	East_Asian	0.21

from Spreadsheet for Dodecad K12b

Population	Gedrosia	Siberian	Northwest_Africa	Southeast_Asia	Atlantic_Med	North_Europe	South_Asia	East_Africa	Southwest_Asia	East_Asia	Caucasus	Sub_Sahara
Armenian	16.82	0.00	0.00	0.00	10.31	3.00	0.00	0.00	14.01	0.00	55.86	0.00
Armenians	15.80	0.00	0.00	0.00	9.80	4.50	0.20	0.00	9.90	0.00	59.80	0.00
Armenians_15	18.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	8.80	3.40	0.40	0.00	13.70	0.00	55.70	0.00

LeBrok · Sep 26, 2016

HarappaWorld:
Added late Afanasevo Culture samples Rise 509, or (early Andronovo?).

Admixture:	Zoran:	Arya:	Goga:	Irn1400s:	IrnCopperAge	Afansevo Rise 509
Caucasian	40,79	40,88	40,84	45,47	49,91	2.03
Baloch	27,95	29,33	27,86	26,89	37,82	29.56
SW-Asian	13,29	14,96	13,9	13,13	10,88	-
NE-Euro	4,3	4,75	3,92	7,27	-	63.24
Mediterranean	8,05	4,17	8,27	4,87	-	1.89
S-Indian	2,99	3,71	2,23	1,23	1,05	-
Siberian	0,96	0,22	1,08	0,65	-	1.64
W-African	-	-	-	0,2	0,33	0.72
SE-Asian	-	0,27	0,57	0,18	-	-
Beringian	-	0,26	-	0,12	-	1.45
NE-Asian	-	0,39	-	-	-	-
Papuan	0,28	0,92	0,36	-	-	-
American	0,67	-	0,98	-	-	1.40
San	0,63	-	-	-	-	-
E-African	0,07	0,14	-	-	-	-
Pygmy	-	-	-	-	-	-

Interestingly Rise 509 has a lot of Baloch, but almost no Caucasian. Perhaps the Baloch is same as Early Neolithic Iranian Farmer, who migrated to the Steppe.
It has a lot of Euro at 63%. In this case, if Rise 509 is a good proxy of IE who invaded South, the ratio would need to be 1 invader to 9 locals. In order to leave only 7% of NE Euro in ancient Iranian (Iran1400).

LeBrok · Sep 26, 2016

LeBrok said:
HarappaWorld:
Added Catacomb Culture (post Yamanya) Rise 552, ~2000 BC, just North of Caucasus. It has more Caucasian and Baloch. I'm starting to think that Caucasian admixture in this run is the same as Anatolian/Levant Neolithic and Baloch is the Iranian Neolithic. NE European is all the WHG/ANE from hunter gatherers. Well, all very roughly counted, I should add.

Admixture: Zoran: Arya: Goga: Irn1400s: IrnCopperAge Afansevo
Rise 509 Catacomb
Rise 552
Caucasian 40,79 40,88 40,84 45,47 49,91 2.03 6.58
Baloch 27,95 29,33 27,86 26,89 37,82 29.56 33.24
SW-Asian 13,29 14,96 13,9 13,13 10,88 -
NE-Euro 4,3 4,75 3,92 7,27 - 63.24 56.02
Mediterranean 8,05 4,17 8,27 4,87 - 1.89
S-Indian 2,99 3,71 2,23 1,23 1,05 -
Siberian 0,96 0,22 1,08 0,65 - 1.64
W-African - - - 0,2 0,33 0.72 0.95
SE-Asian - 0,27 0,57 0,18 - -
Beringian - 0,26 - 0,12 - 1.45 0.75
NE-Asian - 0,39 - - - -
Papuan 0,28 0,92 0,36 - - -
American 0,67 - 0,98 - - 1.40 2.46
San 0,63 - - - - -
E-African 0,07 0,14 - - - -
Pygmy - - - - - -

LeBrok · Sep 26, 2016

HarappaWorld:
Added mine and extra description.

Admixture:	Zoran:	Arya:	Goga:	Irn1400s:	IrnCopperAge	Afansevo Rise 509	Catacomb Rise 552	Modern Polish
Caucasian	40,79	40,88	40,84	45,47	49,91	2.03	6.58	10.05	Part of EEF
Baloch	27,95	29,33	27,86	26,89	37,82	29.56	33.24	7.47	Iranian Neolithic
SW-Asian	13,29	14,96	13,9	13,13	10,88	-		0.86	Semitic?
NE-Euro	4,3	4,75	3,92	7,27	-	63.24	56.02	57.25	EHG
Mediterranean	8,05	4,17	8,27	4,87	-	1.89		21.53	Part of EEF
S-Indian	2,99	3,71	2,23	1,23	1,05	-		0.62
Siberian	0,96	0,22	1,08	0,65	-	1.64		1.22
W-African	-	-	-	0,2	0,33	0.72	0.95
SE-Asian	-	0,27	0,57	0,18	-	-		0.54
Beringian	-	0,26	-	0,12	-	1.45	0.75	0.07
NE-Asian	-	0,39	-	-	-	-
Papuan	0,28	0,92	0,36	-	-	-
American	0,67	-	0,98	-	-	1.40	2.46
San	0,63	-	-	-	-	-
E-African	0,07	0,14	-	-	-	-
Pygmy	-	-	-	-	-	-

Goga · Sep 26, 2016

LeBrok said:
HarappaWorld:
Added late Afanasevo Culture samples Rise 509, or (early Andronovo?).

Interestingly Rise 509 has a lot of Baloch, but almost no Caucasian. Perhaps the Baloch is same as Early Neolithic Iranian Farmer, who migrated to the Steppe.
It has a lot of Euro at 63%. In this case, if Rise 509 is a good proxy of IE who invaded South, the ratio would need to be 1 invader to 9 locals. In order to leave only 7% of NE Euro in ancient Iranian (Iran1400).

Nice try.

It was actually the other way around.

proto-East Iranians from proto-BMAC culture from SouthCentral Asia went to the Eastern Steppes and 'Iranized' the natives of the Andronovo horizon.

Caucasian and Baloch components were brought into the Yamnaya Horzion by PIE folks from Maykop/Leyla Tepe. Those PIE from Maykop/Leyla Tepe were folks with 2 main components: Caucasian and Baloch. Than Yamnaya invaded Europe and brought Baloch/Gedrosia component into Europe.

Afansevo can't be directly from Yamnaya Horizon (second stage of PIE) because there is not much of Caucasian auDNA there.

That means that there was a migration from the Iranian Plateau into the Steppes who Indo-Europized ( / Iranized ) native people of the Steppes.

By the time when Iranians from proto-BMAC invaded the Steppes, the Eastern Steppes were not Indo-European yet because there was not enough Caucasian auDNA yet, while in Yamnaya was a lot Caucasian auDNA.

Baloch components is true PIE and later even an Iranian (Aryan) component.

Goga · Sep 26, 2016

" Hints of a northward movement from the Southern Central Asian oases are also in Ferghana, a region rich in tin deposits, because there has been found a store of bronze and silver objects of southern origin (op. cit., pp.243-244). It is remarkable that Bactrian camels are among the animals bred in the Andronovo cultures succeeding Sintashta culture (they are dated 1800-1000 BC), and camels were domesticated in Turkmenistan at least in the first half of the 3rd millennium BC (see here); they had an Indo-Iranian name (*uštra-), which was borrowed into Finno-Ugric and Turkic languages. "

http://new-indology.blogspot.nl/2013/02/indo-iranians-new-perspectives.html

LeBrok · Sep 26, 2016

Goga said:
Nice.

It was the other way.

proto-East Iranians Iranians from proto-BMAC culture from South Central Asia went to the Eastern Steppes and 'Iranized' the natives of the Andronovo horizon.

We don't have genetic from this place, so lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Caucasian and Baloch components were brought into the Yamnaya Horzion by PIE from Maykop/Leyla Tepe. Those PIE from Maykop/Leyla Tepe were folks with 2 main components: Caucasian and Baloch.

Baloch yes, we see lots of it in the Steppe, but Caucasian is barely trickling. It look like Iranian Farmers were mostly Baloch admixtures went to the Steppe. Caucasian, which I'm guessing is like Levant Neolithic here, came later and slowly trickled down through Caucasus. Look at Rise samples, not much Caucasian there. It means that at the time farmers of Maykop crosse the mountains they had mostly Baloch admixture and nothing else.

Afansevo can't be directly from Yamnaya Horizon (second stage of PIE) becasue there is not much of Caucasian auDNA there.

Caucasian in this run is not Caucasian you expect. I think it must be Anatolian Neolithic, which came later to this area.

That means that there was a migration from the Iranian Plateau into the Steppes who Indo-Europized ( / Iranized ) native people of the Steppes.

There was, nobody can deny it. In this run it shows in Baloch admixture in steppe people.

LeBrok · Sep 26, 2016

HarappaWorld:
Added Sintashta, which is a better fit for Steppe invasion of South with their R1a Z-93 marker.

Admixture:	Zoran:	Arya:	Goga:	Irn1400s:	IrnCopperAge	Afansevo Rise 509	Sintashta Rise 395	Modern Polish
Caucasian	40,79	40,88	40,84	45,47	49,91	2.03	0.00	10.05	Part of EEF
Baloch	27,95	29,33	27,86	26,89	37,82	29.56	17.64	7.47	Iranian Neolithic
SW-Asian	13,29	14,96	13,9	13,13	10,88	-		0.86	Semitic?
NE-Euro	4,3	4,75	3,92	7,27	-	63.24	58.44	57.25	EHG
Mediterranean	8,05	4,17	8,27	4,87	-	1.89	23.06	21.53	Part of EEF
S-Indian	2,99	3,71	2,23	1,23	1,05	-		0.62
Siberian	0,96	0,22	1,08	0,65	-	1.64		1.22
W-African	-	-	-	0,2	0,33	0.72	0.82
SE-Asian	-	0,27	0,57	0,18	-	-		0.54
Beringian	-	0,26	-	0,12	-	1.45		0.07
NE-Asian	-	0,39	-	-	-	-
Papuan	0,28	0,92	0,36	-	-	-
American	0,67	-	0,98	-	-	1.40
San	0,63	-	-	-	-	-
E-African	0,07	0,14	-	-	-	-
Pygmy	-	-	-	-	-	-

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