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- Ancestrally Mixed
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- Dad is I1
- mtDNA haplogroup
- Dad's mtdna is X2b
Can someone tell me how I got such varied results in East Coast USA? I am obviously very mixed. Different tests and calculators say different things. My ancestry is from Virginia, but I have a wide mix. Can you help me narrow it down and or how I got such a huge diversity? What calculators should I post? I have Ancestry, DNA Tribes, Genecove, Geneplaza, dnaland, My Heritage, of course I can provide Gedmatch.
Different tests and calculators say different things. My ancestry is from Virginia but I have a wide mix, multi-generationally mixed. Ancestors were labelled "Quadroon/mulatto" for many generations. My father was labelled "Uzbek" when he lived in Russian but has a skin color like Saudi King Soloman. My mother was a Fitzgerald and Hart (diary of Hart 2cd great grandpa says he's "Scotch"). My mother (God rest her soul) was also multigenerationally mixed but had honey colored skin, red hair and freckles and Rh negative blood (probably O). Can you help me narrow it down and or how I got such a huge diversity?
My Father's Y haplo on 23andme is I1, his mtdna is X2b. My paternal grandmother was a Savoy, "wesort", tri-ratial isolates from VA/MD descended from pre-pilgrim settlers (others include Proctor, Queen, Gray, etc) 10 families practicing endogamy for survival. I suspect my mtdna is L2a1 basd on Wegene. We are trying to find the identity of my father's grandfather. His mother gave him her last name. He told my Dad he was white. I suspect some central Asian. My dad isn't showing Jewish on 23and me so it may be from my Mom's side. Ancestry gives me Caucus but not Jewish, but all other's Gedmatch, DNA Tribes.
My Dad's DNA from a DNA taken in 2009 called EHSTRAFD (based on STR) says:
Y Allele
Map No. Population Frequency Rank Observation Location Country Project
1 Polish [6.68771017666E-009] [100.00] Central Poland Poland
2 Saudi Arabian [4.8828185541E-009] [73.01] Dubai Emirate United Arab Emirates
3 Old Believers [4.31207410409E-009] [64.48] North-Eastern Poland Poland
4 Arab [3.70362852312E-009] [55.38] Zriba Tunisia
5 Polish [3.5886459935E-009] [53.66] Lodz Poland
6 Polish [3.45417400513E-009] [51.65] South-Eastern Poland Poland
7 Omani [3.3820434805E-009] [50.57] Dubai Emirate United Arab Emirates
8 Polish [3.08782897533E-009] [46.17] North-Eastern Poland Poland
9 Yemenit [2.67316591822E-009] [39.97] Dubai Emirate United Arab Emirates
10 Byelorussian [2.56339250685E-009] [38.33] North-Eastern Poland Poland
X Allele
Map No. Population Frequency Rank ObservationLocation Country Project
1 Colombian [1.67765198439E-009] [100.00] Boyaca Colombia
2 Hna-hnu Amerindian [1.10726146384E-009] [66.00] Hidalgo Mexico
3 Mestizo [9.69715584176E-010] [57.80] Guatemala Guatemala
4 Kurmi [8.93034222404E-010] [53.23] Bihar India
5 Brazilian [8.63886259548E-010] [51.49] Bahia Brazil
6 Mestizo [8.30344157263E-010] [49.49] Valley of Mexico Mexico
7 Blak [8.28500241768E-010] [49.38] Ecuador Ecuador
8 Salvadoran [7.24140356397E-010] [43.16] El Salvador El Salvador
9 Venezuelan [6.71772514191E-010] [40.04] Caracas Venezuela
10 Argentine [6.38231183687E-010] [38.04] Neuquen Argentina
The rest are my results:
DNA Tribes
Table 1: Your Continental Core Mixture
Sub-Saharan African 44.3%
European 38.6%
North African and Middle Eastern 17.2%
Table 2: Your Regional Cluster Mixture
Northwest European 19.8%
West African 19%
Africa Great Lakes 15.7%
Ashkenazi Jewish 14.9%
Balkan 10.8%
Italian Greek 8.3%
Central African 8.1%
Red Sea Arab 2.1%
Bantu South African 1.2%
Other 0.1
Population Admixture: Native and Jewish Populations
Ashkenazi Jewish Netherlands 24.6%
Denmark 18.8%
Yembe 18.1%
Dogon West Africa 14.2%
Kosovo 14%
Yoruba Nigeria 7.3%
Malta 3%
Geneplaza
West African42.3%
Esan, Gambian, Yoruba
East African0.6%
Hadza, Luhya, Luo
EASTERN EUROPEAN14.5%
Eastern Slavic14.5%
Belarusians, Ukrainians
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN11.5%
Southwest European11.5%
Basque, Spanish
NORTHERN EUROPEAN8.7%
Northwest European8.7%
Orcadian, Scott, French, English
WEST ASIAN13.5%
West Asian13.5%
Iraqi & Georgian Jews
CENTRAL ASIAN8.6%
Tatars8.5%
Bashkirs0.1%
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN0.2%
NATIVE AMERICAN0.2%
North Amerindian0.2%
Pima
DNA LAND
West Eurasian 51%
Northwest European 32%
Balkan 16%
Ambiguous 2.3%
Dravidian 1.2%
African 48%
West African 43%
Lower Niger Valley 35%
Mende/Akan 8.4%
Aka 2.1%
East African 2%
Amazonian 1.5%
Ancestry (mine has not received the update where Scotland is broken down for example)
Great Britain
40%
Ivory Coast/Ghana
14%
Nigeria
14%
Mali
8%
Scandinavia
7%
Low Confidence Regions
Cameroon/Congo
4%
Africa Southeastern Bantu
3%
Caucasus
2%
Iberian Peninsula
2%
Ireland/Scotland/Wales
1%
Europe South
<1%
Finland/Northwest Russia
<1%
Gencove
39%
Western Africa
15%
Southwestern Europe
14%
Scandinavia
8%
Northern and Central Europe -British, Irish, German.
6%
Eastern Africa
5%
Eastern Mediterranean
4%
Finland
4%
Northern Italy
3%
Northern British Isles
2%
Central Africa
Gedrosia K3
# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 52.69
2 SSA 42.90
3 E_Eurasian 4.41
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ethiopian_Jew - 8.473248
2 Somali - 23.990582
3 Yemen - 32.435829
4 BedouinA - 41.725014
5 Siddi - 43.932011
6 Masai - 45.514271
7 Makrani - 46.663357
8 Jordanian - 46.788933
9 Palestinian - 47.630039
10 Kurd_SE - 48.034153
11 Syrian - 48.314705
12 Yemenite_Jew - 49.095303
13 Brahui - 49.316620
14 Balochi - 49.405899
15 Saudi - 49.514523
16 Sindhi - 50.447300
17 Lebanese - 50.523273
18 Kshatriya - 50.945358
19 Pathan - 51.549225
20 Pashtun_Afghan - 51.657795
Eurogenes K36
Basque 1.99
Central_African 1.89
Central_Euro 1.13
East_African 2.51
East_Balkan 1.98
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.94
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 4.36
Fennoscandian 5.46
French 4.67
Iberian 13.34
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 4.47
North_Caucasian 2.97
North_Sea 7.93
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.35
Omotic -
Pygmy 0.61
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.20
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.69
West_African 39.52
West_Caucasian 2.46
West_Med 1.49
EthioHelix K10 + Palestinian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Palestinian 52.06
2 West-Africa 19.22
3 Eastern-Bantu 11.39
4 Omotic 5.54
5 Biaka-Pygmy 3.39
6 East-Africa1 2.88
7 Hadza 1.99
8 Mbuti-Pygmy 1.46
9 Nilo-Saharan 1.11
Using 1 population approximation:
1 morocco-s - 18.213520
2 sahara-occ - 32.639435
3 libya - 34.081482
4 moroccans - 35.026237
5 algeria - 35.634159
6 mozabite - 36.473110
7 egyptans - 36.724758
8 egypt - 38.814419
9 fulani - 39.061390
10 morocco-n - 39.476151
11 EtT - 39.857491
12 EtA - 39.955006
13 ethiopian-jews - 41.293941
14 EtT-P - 46.401863
15 EtA-P - 47.855648
16 Afar - 49.575829
17 palestinian - 49.945343
18 EtO-P - 50.254318
19 EtO - 52.563442
20 hema - 54.669254
Dodecad K12b
# Population Percent
1 Sub_Saharan 40.55
2 North_European 22.67
3 Atlantic_Med 20.79
4 Gedrosia 5.64
5 Caucasus 4.38
6 East_African 3.93
Using 1 population approximation:
1 ASW30_HapMap3 - 48.944473
2 O_Italian_Dodecad - 49.009663
3 French_Dodecad - 49.153641
4 Portuguese_Dodecad - 49.201630
5 French_HGDP - 49.396389
6 N_Italian_Dodecad - 49.453655
7 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad - 49.595459
8 Extremadura_1000Genomes - 49.625141
9 Romanians_Behar - 49.721073
10 Galicia_1000Genomes - 49.844067
11 German_Dodecad - 49.966728
12 Canarias_1000Genomes - 50.092850
13 Hungarians_Behar - 50.123928
14 Bulgarian_Dodecad - 50.231903
15 Dutch_Dodecad - 50.403812
16 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev - 50.724449
17 Kent_1000Genomes - 50.770897
18 North_Italian_HGDP - 50.795609
19 Baleares_1000Genomes - 50.939888
20 CEU30_1000Genomes - 50.957764
Different tests and calculators say different things. My ancestry is from Virginia but I have a wide mix, multi-generationally mixed. Ancestors were labelled "Quadroon/mulatto" for many generations. My father was labelled "Uzbek" when he lived in Russian but has a skin color like Saudi King Soloman. My mother was a Fitzgerald and Hart (diary of Hart 2cd great grandpa says he's "Scotch"). My mother (God rest her soul) was also multigenerationally mixed but had honey colored skin, red hair and freckles and Rh negative blood (probably O). Can you help me narrow it down and or how I got such a huge diversity?
My Father's Y haplo on 23andme is I1, his mtdna is X2b. My paternal grandmother was a Savoy, "wesort", tri-ratial isolates from VA/MD descended from pre-pilgrim settlers (others include Proctor, Queen, Gray, etc) 10 families practicing endogamy for survival. I suspect my mtdna is L2a1 basd on Wegene. We are trying to find the identity of my father's grandfather. His mother gave him her last name. He told my Dad he was white. I suspect some central Asian. My dad isn't showing Jewish on 23and me so it may be from my Mom's side. Ancestry gives me Caucus but not Jewish, but all other's Gedmatch, DNA Tribes.
My Dad's DNA from a DNA taken in 2009 called EHSTRAFD (based on STR) says:
Y Allele
Map No. Population Frequency Rank Observation Location Country Project
1 Polish [6.68771017666E-009] [100.00] Central Poland Poland
2 Saudi Arabian [4.8828185541E-009] [73.01] Dubai Emirate United Arab Emirates
3 Old Believers [4.31207410409E-009] [64.48] North-Eastern Poland Poland
4 Arab [3.70362852312E-009] [55.38] Zriba Tunisia
5 Polish [3.5886459935E-009] [53.66] Lodz Poland
6 Polish [3.45417400513E-009] [51.65] South-Eastern Poland Poland
7 Omani [3.3820434805E-009] [50.57] Dubai Emirate United Arab Emirates
8 Polish [3.08782897533E-009] [46.17] North-Eastern Poland Poland
9 Yemenit [2.67316591822E-009] [39.97] Dubai Emirate United Arab Emirates
10 Byelorussian [2.56339250685E-009] [38.33] North-Eastern Poland Poland
X Allele
Map No. Population Frequency Rank ObservationLocation Country Project
1 Colombian [1.67765198439E-009] [100.00] Boyaca Colombia
2 Hna-hnu Amerindian [1.10726146384E-009] [66.00] Hidalgo Mexico
3 Mestizo [9.69715584176E-010] [57.80] Guatemala Guatemala
4 Kurmi [8.93034222404E-010] [53.23] Bihar India
5 Brazilian [8.63886259548E-010] [51.49] Bahia Brazil
6 Mestizo [8.30344157263E-010] [49.49] Valley of Mexico Mexico
7 Blak [8.28500241768E-010] [49.38] Ecuador Ecuador
8 Salvadoran [7.24140356397E-010] [43.16] El Salvador El Salvador
9 Venezuelan [6.71772514191E-010] [40.04] Caracas Venezuela
10 Argentine [6.38231183687E-010] [38.04] Neuquen Argentina
The rest are my results:
DNA Tribes
Table 1: Your Continental Core Mixture
Sub-Saharan African 44.3%
European 38.6%
North African and Middle Eastern 17.2%
Table 2: Your Regional Cluster Mixture
Northwest European 19.8%
West African 19%
Africa Great Lakes 15.7%
Ashkenazi Jewish 14.9%
Balkan 10.8%
Italian Greek 8.3%
Central African 8.1%
Red Sea Arab 2.1%
Bantu South African 1.2%
Other 0.1
Population Admixture: Native and Jewish Populations
Ashkenazi Jewish Netherlands 24.6%
Denmark 18.8%
Yembe 18.1%
Dogon West Africa 14.2%
Kosovo 14%
Yoruba Nigeria 7.3%
Malta 3%
Geneplaza
West African42.3%
Esan, Gambian, Yoruba
East African0.6%
Hadza, Luhya, Luo
EASTERN EUROPEAN14.5%
Eastern Slavic14.5%
Belarusians, Ukrainians
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN11.5%
Southwest European11.5%
Basque, Spanish
NORTHERN EUROPEAN8.7%
Northwest European8.7%
Orcadian, Scott, French, English
WEST ASIAN13.5%
West Asian13.5%
Iraqi & Georgian Jews
CENTRAL ASIAN8.6%
Tatars8.5%
Bashkirs0.1%
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN0.2%
NATIVE AMERICAN0.2%
North Amerindian0.2%
Pima
DNA LAND
West Eurasian 51%
Northwest European 32%
Balkan 16%
Ambiguous 2.3%
Dravidian 1.2%
African 48%
West African 43%
Lower Niger Valley 35%
Mende/Akan 8.4%
Aka 2.1%
East African 2%
Amazonian 1.5%
Ancestry (mine has not received the update where Scotland is broken down for example)
Great Britain
40%
Ivory Coast/Ghana
14%
Nigeria
14%
Mali
8%
Scandinavia
7%
Low Confidence Regions
Cameroon/Congo
4%
Africa Southeastern Bantu
3%
Caucasus
2%
Iberian Peninsula
2%
Ireland/Scotland/Wales
1%
Europe South
<1%
Finland/Northwest Russia
<1%
Gencove
39%
Western Africa
15%
Southwestern Europe
14%
Scandinavia
8%
Northern and Central Europe -British, Irish, German.
6%
Eastern Africa
5%
Eastern Mediterranean
4%
Finland
4%
Northern Italy
3%
Northern British Isles
2%
Central Africa
Gedrosia K3
# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 52.69
2 SSA 42.90
3 E_Eurasian 4.41
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ethiopian_Jew - 8.473248
2 Somali - 23.990582
3 Yemen - 32.435829
4 BedouinA - 41.725014
5 Siddi - 43.932011
6 Masai - 45.514271
7 Makrani - 46.663357
8 Jordanian - 46.788933
9 Palestinian - 47.630039
10 Kurd_SE - 48.034153
11 Syrian - 48.314705
12 Yemenite_Jew - 49.095303
13 Brahui - 49.316620
14 Balochi - 49.405899
15 Saudi - 49.514523
16 Sindhi - 50.447300
17 Lebanese - 50.523273
18 Kshatriya - 50.945358
19 Pathan - 51.549225
20 Pashtun_Afghan - 51.657795
Eurogenes K36
Basque 1.99
Central_African 1.89
Central_Euro 1.13
East_African 2.51
East_Balkan 1.98
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.94
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 4.36
Fennoscandian 5.46
French 4.67
Iberian 13.34
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 4.47
North_Caucasian 2.97
North_Sea 7.93
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.35
Omotic -
Pygmy 0.61
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.20
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.69
West_African 39.52
West_Caucasian 2.46
West_Med 1.49
EthioHelix K10 + Palestinian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Palestinian 52.06
2 West-Africa 19.22
3 Eastern-Bantu 11.39
4 Omotic 5.54
5 Biaka-Pygmy 3.39
6 East-Africa1 2.88
7 Hadza 1.99
8 Mbuti-Pygmy 1.46
9 Nilo-Saharan 1.11
Using 1 population approximation:
1 morocco-s - 18.213520
2 sahara-occ - 32.639435
3 libya - 34.081482
4 moroccans - 35.026237
5 algeria - 35.634159
6 mozabite - 36.473110
7 egyptans - 36.724758
8 egypt - 38.814419
9 fulani - 39.061390
10 morocco-n - 39.476151
11 EtT - 39.857491
12 EtA - 39.955006
13 ethiopian-jews - 41.293941
14 EtT-P - 46.401863
15 EtA-P - 47.855648
16 Afar - 49.575829
17 palestinian - 49.945343
18 EtO-P - 50.254318
19 EtO - 52.563442
20 hema - 54.669254
Dodecad K12b
# Population Percent
1 Sub_Saharan 40.55
2 North_European 22.67
3 Atlantic_Med 20.79
4 Gedrosia 5.64
5 Caucasus 4.38
6 East_African 3.93
Using 1 population approximation:
1 ASW30_HapMap3 - 48.944473
2 O_Italian_Dodecad - 49.009663
3 French_Dodecad - 49.153641
4 Portuguese_Dodecad - 49.201630
5 French_HGDP - 49.396389
6 N_Italian_Dodecad - 49.453655
7 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad - 49.595459
8 Extremadura_1000Genomes - 49.625141
9 Romanians_Behar - 49.721073
10 Galicia_1000Genomes - 49.844067
11 German_Dodecad - 49.966728
12 Canarias_1000Genomes - 50.092850
13 Hungarians_Behar - 50.123928
14 Bulgarian_Dodecad - 50.231903
15 Dutch_Dodecad - 50.403812
16 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev - 50.724449
17 Kent_1000Genomes - 50.770897
18 North_Italian_HGDP - 50.795609
19 Baleares_1000Genomes - 50.939888
20 CEU30_1000Genomes - 50.957764